CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #34

[mck16]

Oh I agree with all that but I also think the guy didnt know how to be a good father and this is just MO. Did he want to be I think yes.

I do think this guy has anger issues I have said that from day one and I think
whatever could have happend if MR did this was he got very angry at his son
and things got out of hand!

ER and CR know exactly what kind of guy MR is!All JMO

Then why did she stay married to him for the length to time she did. Maybe 14 or 15 years. ty

 

[CarolynV]

[FONT=&quot]Mark Redwine:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Well, we were watching the movie together. I remember the movie being finished. I at some point was pacing the floor and got up and was taking care of a few little things you know over here at the kitchen table while we were doing that but, you know, it was – Shortly after the ending of that movie, which my guess, and I don’t recall because I don’t keep track of the clock… you know…it must have been… I thought it was earlier in the beginning…’cos I was fairly tired anyway, and I know Dylan was tired because he indicated to me that because he had been up ‘till 4:00 the night before and that he had spent most of the day in the airport traveling to get here that he was tired, and, you know, it seems to me it had to been about 10:30’ish maybe by the time the movie got done… somewhere in there and, you know, shortly after that I ran up and went to bed and he finished up doin’ whatever he was doin’ watching Nickelodeon or whatever he was watching. [/FONT]

That reminds me of Cindy Anthony.

 

[jjenny]

Is this what MR said in the interview about the phone. I don't recall that. ty

Absolutely not. MR never said anything about Dylan's phone not working.

 

[Eileen730]

I don't know. I mean, I think she had every right to be upset, and I see MR as being the kind of guy to use it against her, the way abusers do. (I'm following the line that he is capable of abuse b/c of his known history of violence in the family). If she gets upset, then he uses that against her as a reason to not cooperate with her. it's manipulative and vindictive. HOW do you deal with someone like that? You can't. you simply can't.

BBM

Yes another odd comment. It's as if he's remembering the story as he made it up in his head.

They should make him retell his story backwards!
I saw this on TV a show called Lie to me!...

he (or she) lying? There are numerous clues that can help you spot a lie. You can learn about body language and how words are used, and even how to trap a liar. But one of the more interesting ways to tell if someone is lying comes from recent research at the University of Portsmouth. It has to do with our difficulty telling a story backwards

Vrij also noted that unlike those telling the truth, "...liars tend to tell their stories in a strict chronological time order..." That's another little clue we can use to tell if someone is lying. But the primary lesson here is that liars have a harder time keeping their stories straight when they have to tell them backwards

http://www.articlesbase.com/psychology-articles/the-backwards-lying-trap-213765.html

 

[nursebeeme]

I thought you can paraphrase and link! but not copy and paste.

You can paraphrase with a link and say look at this...

but no discussion of the comments. They are considered rumors.

 

[dlc]

bbm Is this the same campground where a RSO resides???

I think it may be, and that's one of the things that bothered me in the interview. MR spent a lot of time talking about how closely he watched DR, and how careful he is with monitoring him, but he knows he goes and hangs out at a campground, where people come and go all the time, with no way of knowing who they are?

*Before anyone says anything, I camp about two months of the year with my kids, and I've rarely had any bad experiences, but it is true that it's a transient population, and some campgrounds are better monitored than others.

JMO

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

You can paraphrase with a link and say look at this...

but no discussion of the comments. They are considered rumors.

I'm still a bit confused by this. Facebook is nothing but comments. So how can we paraphrase and say look at this and not discuss the comments?

Just looking for clarification because this has always confused me.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

He mentioned Dylan would go to the nearby river and campground but he never mentioned searching there. Why not?

 

[SCHMAE]

saying that he "prays to him (DR)" indicates he knows his fate and that he is deceased. Do you pray to any living people? I "talk to" deceased people (and cats), but not to living ones. When one of my cats was in emergency surgery, I sent him strength and prayed FOR him, but not TO him. So even in crisis, you generally don't pray to a living person. you can send loving thoughts and wishes. so it may be benign. but it sounds off to me.

MR said he prays to DR?

 

[Eileen730]

Then why did she stay married to him for the length to time she did. Maybe 14 or 15 years. ty

Why do any of us stay?
Seems it didnt get bad till the end of the marriage!
Women stay in bad relationships all the time.

She left the relationship what 6 or 7 yrs ago and she is still in this bad relationship!


JMO

 

[Chili Fries]

Sorry to repeat myself, I posted this in the last thread, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dr Phil asked Mark to take a polygraph. I also wouldn't be surprised if that's something that has crossed Mark's mind when considering whether to do the show or not (of course this is obviously speculation by me).

 

[Eileen730]

He mentioned Dylan would go to the nearby river and campground but he never mentioned searching there. Why not?

Because he possibly knows hes not there!

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

Sorry to repeat myself, I posted this in the last thread, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dr Phil asked Mark to take a polygraph. I also wouldn't be surprised if that's something that has crossed Mark's mind when considering whether to do the show or not (of course this is obviously speculation by me).

He always asks them to take a poly!

 

[SCHMAE]

Is this what MR said in the interview about the phone. I don't recall that. ty

No, LOL, those were all the things he did NOT say that I wish He might
have said to clear up some of the missing links. Sorry bout that

 

[mck16]

what I'm trying to convey is her desperation to get answers from the last person to see her son. MR did not return her calls or texts. For weeks. Imagine what you would feel your options are in that situation. I'd be pissed and desperate. She did not say that out of the blue. It was more restrained than what i may have said in that situation.

And then to add more credence to her statment she released the court docs and stories of sex on the front lawn, fighting with a neighbor, and being beat up by his son, etc. For me that is when the case took a really big turn in my feelings. I do not in any way think Elaine had anything to do with DR's disappearance, but I think her attitude toward MR has made me think even less that he did. She just seems so full of hate and making that public has made MR withdraw further from a public display of togetherness. And I think that is very bad and definitely made an impact on people. At least for me.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

In the uncut interview there were so many opportunities for the reporter to narrow him down to answering specific questions and she didn't. I think this is exactly what Dr Phil would do. He would force him to answer questions without allowing him to go off in circles.
For instance, when MR stated that Dylan liked to go to the nearby campground and river MB had the perfect opportunity to ask if he searched for him there. If he did then when? And if he didn't why not?
I want to see someone get MR to answer questions without allowing him to go off on other things that have nothing to do with the question. To me he dances around the question and sidetracks the interviewer. I have seen people try to do this with Dr Phil and he's all over it. He won't allow it.

 

[dlc]

I'm pretty sure I have read that both ER and CR have said that MR loved DR and they never had any reason to believe he would hurt him, or she never would have put him on the plane. I guess I'm saying I have seen both types of comments from ER and don't know what that means.

BBM


Many threads back, a lot of discussion occurred around this issue, with a number of posters saying that ER should never have put DR on the plane, and that they wouldn't have if they were in her shoes, etc. Others pointed out that if she hadn't, she would have been in violation of a court order, and would risk losing custody rights. IMO, I think that ER and CR do believe that MR loved DR. I agree -- I think he loved him too. That said, one only has to open a newspaper to read a story of love that goes wrong.

In answer to your question of what it means, I think that ER never thought that something awful would happen to DR while in his father's care, but that, knowing MR as she does (and we have MSM reports that confirm this), she was aware of his personality, so when DR did go missing, the thought of MR's involvement very logically (IMO) occurred to her.

JMO, etc.

Thanks.

 

[dlc]

And then to add more credence to her statment she released the court docs and stories of sex on the front lawn, fighting with a neighbor, and being beat up by his son, etc. For me that is when the case took a really big turn in my feelings. I do not in any way think Elaine had anything to do with DY's disappearance, but I think her attitude toward MR has made me think even less that he did. She just seems so full of hate and making that public has made MR withdraw further from a public display of togetherness. And I think that is very bad and definitely made an impact on people. At least for me.

BBM

She released them? Link, please.

 

[nursebeeme]

I'm still a bit confused by this. Facebook is nothing but comments. So how can we paraphrase and say look at this and not discuss the comments?

Just looking for clarification because this has always confused me.

You can paraphrase the "just" of the comment and link to the facebook page but further discussion of comments is not allowed because they are considered a rumor and not fact.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

You can paraphrase the "just" of the comment and link to the facebook page but further discussion of comments is not allowed because they are considered a rumor and not fact.

Do you mean the "gist" of the comment? How about statements made by the admin of the FMDR page. Are those considered to be "comments" and are subject to the same rules?