CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #34

[mijamawi]

If you're saying that there is a logical reason for any one statement, facial expression or action in someone who may have committed a crime, I completely agree with you. No one thing is an indicator of guilt, any more than a prosecutor can make an effective case out of a single piece of evidence. My suspicions about MR are based on a cumulative list of things that, IMO, are indicative of deception. Number one: he has not, so far and to my knowledge, actually said, "I did not kill Dylan," which should be very, very easy to do. If anyone can provide me with a quote, TIA. And thanks for your response. Even if we don't agree, your comments are always insightful and thoughtful.

Lord howdy, I can imagine the buzz it would generate if MR suddenly said, "I did not kill Dylan." He would be skewered. He's already being skewered for saying he had nothing to do with his disappearance after saying he doesn't know where he is. Cheese-O-Pete!!!

ETA: My cheeseopete was at the drama that would ensue if he said that, not at the poster.

 

[TxLady2]

OH see that is a difference of opinion though.
I assumed ' all hell breaks loose' to mean that is when we began the next part which is " our son is missing " vs. ' our son is just off somewhere and will be back' . Like it's serious now and we know it and all hells breaking loose. That's a far cry from she cussed and accused him in the text, to be fair. That's quite a leap of assumption actually.

And it's not a leap of assumption to insert something sinister into everything he says when it may just be a simple choice of words???
Not directed at you personally, but I don't get this one-sided viewpoint, really. Sorry.
He makes a simple statement that while Dylan is watching t.v. he is pacing around doing little things because he can't sit through a 2 hour movie and people jump to the conclusion that he's pacing because he's tense and nervous and trying to think what to do, because something has happened to Dylan. That's not leaping to assumptions? To me, it is really reaching, but what do I know?
When he said "all hell broke loose" my first thought was she went hysterical on him and maybe asked him what the hell he did with her son, possibly accused him of something right then. But I don't know that for a fact, so I'm not going to jump to conclusions, even though I could probably use the exercise.
Again, no disrespect intended.

 

[cfreyja23]

It would be bizarre to me if someone suddenly blurted out "I did not kill Dylan". In fact, I would probably immediately think they had.

In other words, I haven't seen anyone ask him if he killed Dylan. I've never seen any parent of a missing child when asked if they knew where their child was, what happened to their child, etc, reply "I did not kill my child". It takes a direct question - and someone to ask it.

Have you seen a reporter ask Mark if he killed Dylan?

Actually, if someone asked him a direct question, "Did you kill your son?" It would be easier to say "no," as it is easier for someone to say "no" than to actually make a full, untruthful statement. Yes, actually, there was at least one interview in which the reporter asked him to address the suspicions about him. I'll post a link when I find it. If you'd like me to find some interviews in which innocent parents have made reliable denials, I'm sure I could find one when I have time, but merely because you haven't seen it happened doesn't mean an innocent parent hasn't given a reliable denial.

 

[cfreyja23]

Lord howdy, I can imagine the buzz it would generate if MR suddenly said, "I did not kill Dylan." He would be skewered. He's already being skewered for saying he had nothing to do with his disappearance after saying he doesn't know where he is. Cheese-O-Pete!!!

ETA: My cheeseopete was at the drama that would ensue if he said that, not at the poster.

Actually, depending on the context of a reporter asking him to address the suspicions that people have about him, "I did not kill Dylan" would be a perfectly normal response. But, of course, we're entitled to differ in our opinions.

 

[cfreyja23]

It would be bizarre to me if someone suddenly blurted out "I did not kill Dylan". In fact, I would probably immediately think they had.

In other words, I haven't seen anyone ask him if he killed Dylan. I've never seen any parent of a missing child when asked if they knew where their child was, what happened to their child, etc, reply "I did not kill my child". It takes a direct question - and someone to ask it.

Have you seen a reporter ask Mark if he killed Dylan?

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico...nce/-/9153728/17616906/-/129kycz/-/index.html

Here's the link for when a reporter asked him to address the suspicions.

 

[scorekeeper]

I saw Dylan's missing poster in the Sam's Club in Las Vegas today. My 6 year old son was with me and he had the misfortune of watching the Nancy Grace episodes with me in November and he has not forgotten about Dylan. When I stopped to look at the posters, he asked who the kids were. I said "these are kids who are lost and missing. Do you recognize this one?" "Dylan?" "Yep. He's still out there and this flyer will help remind people to keep an eye out for him." What I was thinking was ...this is Dylan. His mom is Elaine. His dad is Mark. He has a brother named Cory who misses him more than you can imagine. His friends Ryan and Wes and Joe wonder where he is every day. He likes his pizza with pepperoni and he likes to watch baseball and football, like you do. He doesn't like to read but he likes to listen to music....etc. But I didn't tell him all this. I looked at all those other pictures and realized they weren't all just missing kids, they were threads in a huge ripple and SO MANY PEOPLE are missing them and holy crap it was tough to regain my composure and go shopping. But it was a lesson for my son and I'm sorry Dylan is the way he will learn about missing kids. But my son did not stray far from the cart while we shopped, I noticed. Come home Dylan.

Thank you....(((hugs)))

 

[MrsPC]

I'm just curious why MR's brother or no one on his side of the family has spoken out about Dylan's disappearance. I know that a couple of female relatives posted some comments to an online article early on but that's really all I've seen. I specifically wonder about his brother in Castle Rock.

 

[The Cheese]

Actually, if someone asked him a direct question, "Did you kill your son?" It would be easier to say "no," as it is easier for someone to say "no" than to actually make a full, untruthful statement. Yes, actually, there was at least one interview in which the reporter asked him to address the suspicions about him. I'll post a link when I find it. If you'd like me to find some interviews in which innocent parents have made reliable denials, I'm sure I could find one when I have time, but merely because you haven't seen it happened doesn't mean an innocent parent hasn't given a reliable denial.

No need for links or interviews, but thank you.

I respect your opinion, cfreyja, but we think or see things differently.

 

[Seajay]

Thanks button wasn't enough. I'm always quick to say the spouse did it or the parent did it, but for whatever reason, I did not feel MR was responsible from very early on. Like you've stated above, there are too many logical reasons for his actions. Another case I've been following, I feel the spouse did it. He's doing everything to make himself look guilty. When I try to compare his actions to MR's, it's like apples to oranges. I know I'm rambling, but I just wanted to say thanks for your post.

I'm glad you brought this up mija, I was thinking about this today. The minute I read about Autumn Pasquale's disappearance, I felt she was dead. Turned out two teenage boys murdered her for her BMX bike and stuff her in a trash can. Then when Rebekah Gay went missing, I felt she was dead. Turns out her mother's fiancee murdered her, he was a pastor at a church. When Katrina Smith disappeared, I immediately felt she was dead, and that her husband had a hand in it. It turned out that's exactly what happened. He murdered her and dumped her in a river.

From the beginning of this case, I felt Dylan was alive. And I felt his father had nothing to do with his disappearance. I have never felt or considered that Dylan is dead. And I continue to feel Mark had nothing to do with his disappearnace. I have seen no evidence that says different. Everything has a logical explanation as to why it's the way it is. I have seen nothing sinister about anything he's said or done. I'm just not feeling it. And until proven wrong, I have to go by my feeling on it.

 

[SCHMAE]

And it's not a leap of assumption to insert something sinister into everything he says when it may just be a simple choice of words???
Not directed at you personally, but I don't get this one-sided viewpoint, really. Sorry.
He makes a simple statement that while Dylan is watching t.v. he is pacing around doing little things because he can't sit through a 2 hour movie and people jump to the conclusion that he's pacing because he's tense and nervous and trying to think what to do, because something has happened to Dylan. That's not leaping to assumptions? To me, it is really reaching, but what do I know?
When he said "all hell broke loose" my first thought was she went hysterical on him and maybe asked him what the hell he did with her son, possibly accused him of something right then. But I don't know that for a fact, so I'm not going to jump to conclusions, even though I could probably use the exercise.
Again, no disrespect intended.

I like to use ' maybe' and ' what if' and ' could have' , but apparently people see my posts and don't see them. I did not say he must be guilty of something because he was pacing. I said could have , might he have, what if he had . WE dont' know why he paced or what ER said when all hell broke loose or anything really. So should we just stop discussing it ?

 

[deoneta]

Originally Posted by Seajay View Post
"She accused him and cursed him out in the text exchange when he text her and asked her if she had heard from Dylan on that Monday. It started then."

What did she say? I haven't read that.

Sorry I don't know how to do the double quote thing. I am still curious about this. Can anyone direct me to this info or where to look?

 

[SCHMAE]

And it's not a leap of assumption to insert something sinister into everything he says when it may just be a simple choice of words???
Not directed at you personally, but I don't get this one-sided viewpoint, really. Sorry.
He makes a simple statement that while Dylan is watching t.v. he is pacing around doing little things because he can't sit through a 2 hour movie and people jump to the conclusion that he's pacing because he's tense and nervous and trying to think what to do, because something has happened to Dylan. That's not leaping to assumptions? To me, it is really reaching, but what do I know?
When he said "all hell broke loose" my first thought was she went hysterical on him and maybe asked him what the hell he did with her son, possibly accused him of something right then. But I don't know that for a fact, so I'm not going to jump to conclusions, even though I could probably use the exercise.
Again, no disrespect intended.

Also, sorry I didn't include this in the first part, it was stated as if FACT that Elaine had cussed him and accused him on day one in the initial text and I asked for where that info came from and it was because MR said ' all hell broke loose' , so since there is nowhere written that she said anything like cussing or accusations in that text, then I'd say it's quite a leap to state as fact that it happened.

 

[Seajay]

Also, sorry I didn't include this in the first part, it was stated as if FACT that Elaine had cussed him and accused him on day one in the initial text and I asked for where that info came from and it was because MR said ' all hell broke loose' , so since there is nowhere written that she said anything like cussing or accusations in that text, then I'd say it's quite a leap to state as fact that it happened.

The statement and link are upthread. Somewhere around page 24 or 25, I believe. I think it was posted by mija.

ETA: I found it, it was by The Cheese

Teresa Martinez, a friend of Mark Redwine, said Cory and Elaine Redwine have sent “ugly” and “threatening” messages to Mark Redwine, asking him, “Where is Dylan, you piece of (explicative).”

http://www.durangoherald.com/article...ly-for-Dylan--

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I'm just curious why MR's brother or no one on his side of the family has spoken out about Dylan's disappearance. I know that a couple of female relatives posted some comments to an online article early on but that's really all I've seen. I specifically wonder about his brother in Castle Rock.

I'm curious how it is relevant that Mark's brother hasn't spoken in public about his nephew being missing?

 

[SCHMAE]

Originally Posted by Seajay View Post
"She accused him and cursed him out in the text exchange when he text her and asked her if she had heard from Dylan on that Monday. It started then."



Sorry I don't know how to do the double quote thing. I am still curious about this. Can anyone direct me to this info or where to look?

There is no link or msm for it . It was an assumption based on MR saying ' all hell broke loose'' when he texted ER to tell them their son was missing. SO it's now assumed and taken as fact that means she was swearing at him and accusing him !

 

[mijamawi]

There have been some speaking out for MR, unfortunately it's not discussable because of where they have spoken out at. Doubly unfortunate that they were ruthlessly attacked and are now afraid to say anything. JMO

 

[absentia]

I have no idea where Dylan is at seems like a normal statement to me. Why would you then add I have no involvement with where Dylan is at?

It almost sounds like he's saying he knows where Dylan is at but has no involvement with him getting there.

I know it's not just me noticing these repeated odd statements by MR.

it is an odd thing to say. he says so many odd thing. to say that in that way indicates that Dylan is in a certain place - in his mind. if he had said - "I had nothing to do with him being wherever he is", that would even be strange, but less strange. it's less specific of a particular place but still an odd frame of mind for someone who has no idea where their child is.

 

[mijamawi]

There is no link or msm for it . It was an assumption based on MR saying ' all hell broke loose'' when he texted ER to tell them their son was missing. SO it's now assumed and taken as fact that means she was swearing at him and accusing him !

Um no it's not assumed. There's a link that someone posted (it wasn't me) a few pages ago where an acquaintance of MR said he received a text along the lines of what did you do to Dylan, you . It may not have happened, but it was reported in MSM.

 

[absentia]

I'm curious how it is relevant that Mark's brother hasn't spoken in public about his nephew being missing?

often the extended family shows a presence of support or even acts as spokesperson.

 

[mijamawi]

it is an odd thing to say. he says so many odd thing. to say that in that way indicates that Dylan is in a certain place - in his mind. if he had said - "I had nothing to do with him being wherever he is", that would even be strange, but less strange. it's less specific of a particular place but still an odd frame of mind for someone who has no idea where their child is.

Would it have been odd if he said, "I didn't kill Dylan" when asked if he had anything to do with his disappearance?