CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #35

[Dee10]

I'm trying to think of cases where the parents are divorced or at least separated, missing child is older at least not a toddler, and one side of the family thought the other side disappeared the child.

The closest I can think of would be Kyron Horman, although he's pretty young, and there's been no arrest of TH, but we know the fam on both sides (mom and dad) thinks she (stepmom) is guilty.

That's the only case I can think of that would be somewhat similar.

I was out all afternoon, but I just want to add the Haleigh Cummings case. Chrystal & family believe Ron (who had custody & went missing on his watch) had something to do with her disappearance. Haleigh I believe was in Grade 1. IMO the majority of people believe Ron was involved as well, however the case was never solved & she is still missing. Do I think he was involved? Yes I do. :saythat:

LE obviously suspected Ron, Misty & some others as they were able to get them on drug charges & locked up for many, many, many years on a small quantity of pills but noone has rolled on the other one & the truth has yet to be seen. :scale:

ETA - I also think the Horman case is similar as well.

 

[findDylan]

There are other things going on that the family is dealing with and that is why there are not any posts from the family.

 

[TxLady2]

After reviewing several media reports, there is nothing that says that the tipster and the person interviewed are the SAME PERSON. So who knows?

(Can someone send me a "thinking cap" like the one Psychic Sleuth wears?)

Why wouldn't they be the same person? LE would want to talk to the person who actually saw and talked to the hispanic man... not someone who knows someone else who says the saw him. First off, that would be hearsay, and I doubt if they would take it as seriously. They like to go right to the source. Plus, they wouldn't put out a press release if they had not talked to the source already.

 

[TxLady2]

IMO - IF MR or ER called in a tip on the tip line, then I would be very suspect of them. They have the inside connection. The only reason for either of them to call a tip to the tip line would be to intentionally divert the investigation.

With that being said, MR or ER can directly contact LE, either of them can say, hey this guy told me that his neighbor was talking about a suspicious hispanic male he saw on 11/19. LE would ask for the name & number of the "guy" and get in touch with the "neighbor" and check it out. LE is NOT going to discount a tip that the parents of a missing child reported. They may not investigate each tip the parent gives, out of pure absurdity, but they will not discount a tip from anyone.

As far as whether or not the FMDR page has this new info posted, WTF cares one way or another? The fb pages have gotten so out of hand it's absurd and worse than watching 4 yr olds fight over a toy. I personally could care less what any of the fb pages puts up in regards to media, tips, opinions, finger pointing, accusation dodging, all of it.

In regards to the PI and Dr. Phil, both ER & MR have been in the damned if I do, damned if I don't arena for far too long. Both are being chastised for not doing something and then being chastised for doing something. Heck, neither one of them can catch a break from anyone. IMO, I would not hire or employ or accept the services of a PI that post information on fb, that goes for both MO & BB. I find that very unprofessional, highly unethical and just plain absurd. It's all MOO, whomever either of them employs, I would personally hope that they at least aide in the investigation and do not interfere with investigation. As far as Dr Phil goes, if the objective is to find your son, you are offered free national exposure, take it. Nobody, not even the great all mightly Dr. Phil, can make you say something you don't want to, take a LDT if you don't want to or argue with someone you don't want to.

Have you ever had a one-sided argument? If the other person doesn't participate the other person looks like a fool.

All IMOO.

But it's kind of hard to argue with a person when they're not even there in front of you.

Otherwise, I agree with your post!

 

[TxLady2]

They did already talk to the tipster. But seriously, almost three months later, somebody reports seeing a man, provides a very general description, and some are wondering why we aren't jumping up and down with excitement over this?

I know they did. Did you read the post I quoted? Psychic Sleuth said something about finding the tipster, and that was what I was replying about.

Nobody has to jump up and down with excitement if they don't want to. Earlier I kept seeing things like "if this person exists" and I wondered if they were trying to imply that the person with the tip was lying and made it up. After waiting for so long for any kind of lead in this case, I don't understand that attitude.

We can agree to disagree. Thanks.

 

[TxLady2]

Haha, that was a typo on my part. Should have said person. Apologies for any confusion.

Thanks. Sometimes our fingers work faster than our brains do, right?
No worries.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I know they did. Did you read the post I quoted? Psychic Sleuth said something about finding the tipster, and that was what I was replying about.

Nobody has to jump up and down with excitement if they don't want to. Earlier I kept seeing things like "if this person exists" and I wondered if they were trying to imply that the person with the tip was lying and made it up. After waiting for so long for any kind of lead in this case, I don't understand that attitude.

We can agree to disagree. Thanks.

The reason for my questioning the validity of this tip is that this lead was announced on facebook by the PI MO last week and prior to the tip being called into LE. So for me, the hinky meter goes up. It could be a credible tip. I don't know. I absolutely agree that it needs to be checked out.

 

[TxLady2]

I don't think we can talk about why some are finding this tip a little odd. JMO

Why not? All I was asking is, why do some seem to think this person doesn't exist? IOW, LE put out a press release that they interviewed a person who saw this man. Do you think LE would then be asking the public's help in locating this man if they believed he did not exist, or believed the person they talked to had lied and made it up?? I sure don't. I think it would have been thrown in the circular file like all the other bogus tips and they would never have bothered making the statement they did. Apparently they found this tip credible, and they're the ones who get to decide that. Not us.

 

[TxLady2]

The reason for my questioning the validity of this tip is that this lead was announced on facebook by the PI MO last week and prior to the tip being called into LE. So for me, the hinky meter goes up. It could be a credible tip. I don't know. I absolutely agree that it needs to be checked out.

But we do not know when the tip was given to LE, do we? LE only said they interviewed the person over the weekend. For all we know they could have got the tip last week or 2 weeks ago and were not able to make contact with the person to interview them until the weekend. People go out of town sometimes.
Maybe the PI jumped the gun a little by posting it on FB when he did. Who knows?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

But we do not know when the tip was given to LE, do we? LE only said they interviewed the person over the weekend. For all we know they could have got the tip last week or 2 weeks ago and were not able to make contact with the person to interview them until the weekend. People go out of town sometimes.
Maybe the PI jumped the gun a little by posting it on FB when he did. Who knows?

MSM also said the tip was called in this weekend. Could be a mis-print or mis-quote I suppose?

I'm not saying it's not a valid tip. I'm just being a little cautious about it for the time being. There's other info that cannot be discussed here.

 

[ColdHands]

I would assume that the person they interviewed was the same person who told them about seeing the hispanic male. I can't think of any good reason why someone else would contact them about another person seeing this man.

Maybe (and I'm just thinking out loud here, not saying this happened) maybe the tipster called because the person that saw the man didn't want to or didn't think it was important? "Hey, you need to talk to Mr/Ms X because he/she told me...."

I think it's most likely that the tipster and the person that was interviewed are the same person IMO, however there is a possibility that they are not.

 

[Eileen730]

How could it have been called in this weekend but the PI was talking about it last week?

If this person saw Him wandering the area where MR lives this person knows about
Dylan being missing. So why didnt this person say something wayyyyy back when?

 

[Lordeebee]

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121129/NEWS01/121129528/-1/news01&source=RSS
Evening: Dylan arrives in Durango from Colorado Springs after 6th Judicial District Judge David Dickinson issued a court order granting Mark Redwine, Dylan’s father, visitation rights during the Thanksgiving holiday. Dylan sends his mother, Elaine, a text message that says he has arrived. Elaine Redwine tells The Durango Herald that Dylan’s text message ended with an emoticon that was interpreted as a scowl.

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...ors-searching-house-of-Dylan-Redwine’s-father

Dylan’s visit was the result of a court order by 6th Judicial District Judge David Dickinson, who said Thursday he is restricted from commenting on the order or the parenting plan.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20130111/NEWS01/130119913/0/s/District-judge-to-leave-bench

District Judge David Dickinson, who has served on the bench for 14 years, announced this week he will retire at the end of February.

BBM

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Well the admin's been posting away everywhere else, so she could have taken out 3 minutes and dropped a couple links on FMDR for Dylan's sake.

Yep, it's obvious that they are deliberating choosing not to post this. It's a news article, from a legitimate media source, sent out by the sheriff. Ridiculous.

 

[jjenny]

How could it have been called in this weekend but the PI was talking about it last week?

If this person saw Him wandering the area where MR lives this person knows about
Dylan being missing. So why didnt this person say something wayyyyy back when?

If PI was the one who talked to that person, then PI could have known before that person ever called in a tip. Maybe PI then convinced this person to call in a tip. I am also not sure as to why someone didn't report this earlier, when memory would be fresh and police could have investigated it further.

 

[findDylan]

Well the admin's been posting away everywhere else about what a son of a gun Mark is, so she could have taken out 3 minutes and dropped a couple links on FMDR for Dylan's sake.

Never mind....

 

[jjenny]

Why not? All I was asking is, why do some seem to think this person doesn't exist? IOW, LE put out a press release that they interviewed a person who saw this man. Do you think LE would then be asking the public's help in locating this man if they believed he did not exist, or believed the person they talked to had lied and made it up?? I sure don't. I think it would have been thrown in the circular file like all the other bogus tips and they would never have bothered making the statement they did. Apparently they found this tip credible, and they're the ones who get to decide that. Not us.

Other than this tipster saying he/she saw this Hispanic male, LE has no way of knowing whether this male exists or not. So I am not sure what are you trying to say here.

 

[Babbi-Dan]

http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/ar...an-redwine-criminal-investigation-new-photos/

The above article displays pics of the Fathers house, and property accross the
street with a realtor sign on it.

So MR lives in the northern part of Vallecito, and there was a guy reportedly looking at houses to rent on the day Dylan went missing, and the house across the street from MR has a for sale sign in the yard?

 

[Babbi-Dan]

but to put out a PR on the tip, wouldn't LE have double/triple verified it, considering they just don't do PR's at all anyway? Unless, it's like the cross in the JR case....

what was the original story on the hispanic male? he asked where a gas station was, but the witness thought it was odd b/c the male said he knew where there was one, but was asking about another. wasn't that it? so there must have been a vehicle somewhere???

So this guy was going around the northern part of Vallecito (how near where MR lives???) asking about where to get gas, and Dylan was a real friendly guy that never met a stranger.... Hmmmm, I can see someone asking Dylan where the gas station was and then asking Dylan to "show him" where the gas station was because he was not familiar with the area.

 

[nikb]

I think it just gives a little more of a time frame for people to think about anything that they may have seen that was suspicious or anyone acting suspicious. I imagine there were more people around over the weekend.

I'm curious if there is much of a Hispanic population in that area.

BBM I'm assuming there must be given the name of the town. I was actually really surprised to see somewhere with such a "hispanic sounding" name in Colorado. (once again, is it obvious I'm in California?). I'm curious too though. If there's not a large Hispanic population there currently or in the recent past, I'm even more curious and confused.