CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #35

[azgrandma]

So what are the possibilities?

1. Something happened on the way home?
2. Someone picked Dylan up that morning
a. at Dylan's request
b. at MR's request
c. at ER's request
d. at an opportunistic moment

Not a lot here. And the phone issue is major, imo. I think it is totally plausible that the phone went dead and there was some delay in recharging it. BUT... LE said that took an iPod during the search, and while not confirmed, I believe that the iPod belonged to Dylan.

According to the reporter, LE found Dylan's online iPod text/email account and had a look at it, which indicates to me that Dylan could text from his iPod. This puts my hinky meter on RED alert.

Why wouldn't Dylan use that iPod to text his friends Monday morning, if he forgot to charge his phone? I'm having trouble getting past this.

Salem

BBM - do you know how they can get an iPod text/email account? I'm wondering how that is done. I don't have an iPod so I don't know how they work. TIA

 

[ColdHands]

How would the stranger get ALL of his belongings? Not to mention that his phone wasn't used in the morning.

I've given my theory before, but here it is again...I think Dylan could have been outside, checking the weather, trying to catch MR as he left, whatever. I think he could have been seen by someone (probably that he knew but could be a stranger) driving by, engaged in conversation, offered a ride if "he was real quick," grabbed everything (jamming his stuff into his backpack), ran out the door thinking he could call on the road, and into the car where the phone was taken from him and destroyed.

As for the pole, I've been wondering if Dylan did accept a ride or if he walked somewhere, could it possibly have been to the lake to see if his friend T was there? thinking he could kill a couple hours while he waited for his dad to come back for him so he grabbed the pole too?

 

[Salem]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/-/s...in-bayfield-area-for-missing-dylan-redwine-13



I'm still looking for a article where LE says they ruled out this was Dylan.

I don't believe there was ever confirmation that this sighting was ruled out. There was confirmation about the jogger. But this sighting was different and I don't think that LE has ever said they confirmed it was NOT Dylan.

Salem

PS - you guys correct me if I'm wrong here, please.

 

[cluciano63]

If LE has been unable to rule MR out of the picture, why did LE not show photos of his vehicles back when it may have jogged someone's memory? This is one of the things that make me question LE in this case. I doubt they have been able to clear him, they certainly have not said he is cleared. Why would they want the public to get the impression that this is a "domestic crime" if in fact they have no idea what happened? In other words, why not say he is cleared, if he is?

Mind you, I do not believe he has been, or can be cleared, without a suspect coming to light. Which makes me wonder all the more why they did not put photos of his truck out there, asking if anyone had seen it on Sunday night or early Monday.

 

[Salem]

BBM - do you know how they can get an iPod text/email account? I'm wondering how that is done. I don't have an iPod so I don't know how they work. TIA

I do not LOL. I have an iPod, but have never bothered to set it up like that. I text like a mad woman on my phone :blushing:

Salem

 

[Lordeebee]

WOW I never thought of it that way! That sorta makes sense because he has said a few times afterwards that who knows what goes through the mind of a 13 yo.

I think it was when MR mentioned that Dylan could have hitchhiked and had nothing to run away from.

Interesting, thank you.

And about eating at McDonalds...and about being with his friends...and about how he feels about his parents fighting... probably more if we reviewed.

 

[azgrandma]

I've given my theory before, but here it is again...I think Dylan could have been outside, checking the weather, trying to catch MR as he left, whatever. I think he could have been seen by someone (probably that he knew but could be a stranger) driving by, engaged in conversation, offered a ride if "he was real quick," grabbed everything (jamming his stuff into his backpack), ran out the door thinking he could call on the road, and into the car where the phone was taken from him and destroyed.

As for the pole, I've been wondering if Dylan did accept a ride or if he walked somewhere, could it possibly have been to the lake to see if his friend T was there? thinking he could kill a couple hours while he waited for his dad to come back for him so he grabbed the pole too?

Ok, but how would a stranger know he even had anything in the house to grab? Are you saying that a stranger pulled up while Dylan was outside, offered him a ride and Dylan said ok, let me go get my stuff?

That might be plausable, but why wouldn't Dylan have used the phone before going outside to check the weather?

The pole is something that for some reason I keep forgetting. IDK why!!! I just keep forgetting it. Thanks for reminding me of it (again). Maybe because I haven't considered it a fact from LE since they haven't mentioned it once, it's only been MR?

Please know that I am not being argumentative, I'm just trying to make everything I know as fact IMO make sense. No matter how hard I try, I can't.

 

[Lordeebee]

The discussion seems completely fruitless, since every time someone wants to explore any and all possibilities of what happened to Dylan the conversation is purposely derailed back to why MR did it.

"MR needs to tell what he did to him. MR has knows all the answers and is withholding them. MR is obviously drunk. MR hacked his FB account. MR is doing nothing to help find Dylan. His phone didn't work after 9:37 pm because of MR and many, many more."

It's a good thing LE doesn't investigate this way. Why is there so much insistence on keeping the focus on speculation of MR when there is no evidence? A lot of effort has been put into doing this.

By now, it is very possible that LE is investigating exactly this way IMO. The fact that MR is not being "named a suspect" does not mean they are not watching him just as closely (or more so) than we are. We don't know what forensic evidence they may have, but I would bet they are gathering the same circumstantial evidence as we are.

 

[Confusion]

So what are the possibilities?

1. Something happened on the way home?
2. Someone picked Dylan up that morning
a. at Dylan's request
b. at MR's request
c. at ER's request
d. at an opportunistic moment

Not a lot here. And the phone issue is major, imo. I think it is totally plausible that the phone went dead and there was some delay in recharging it. BUT... LE said that took an iPod during the search, and while not confirmed, I believe that the iPod belonged to Dylan.

According to the reporter, LE found Dylan's online iPod text/email account and had a look at it, which indicates to me that Dylan could text from his iPod. This puts my hinky meter on RED alert.

Why wouldn't Dylan use that iPod to text his friends Monday morning, if he forgot to charge his phone? I'm having trouble getting past this.

Salem

I just wanted to add one:
e. Preplanned, but without the knowledge of either parent.

 

[ColdHands]

That might be plausable, but why wouldn't Dylan have used the phone before going outside to check the weather?

Maybe he did run out after his dad? Or opened the door to check if the truck was gone? If you think of it as happening early, like right after his dad left, that's not a stretch.

Please know that I am not being argumentative, I'm just trying to make everything I know as fact IMO make sense. No matter how hard I try, I can't.

We have such limited information that it's easy to build additional "facts" into the scenarios without intending, IMO. Questioning and confirming and asking for links etc keeps this exercise honest.

I think messages off the ipod are backed up to itunes or the cloud if you have backups set up. If you don't I think you might have to contact Apple to get that history, which I'm sure LE would do. IMO and all that, I don't have a link and we just at Christmas moved my son off the ipod and onto his own iphone and he gave his ipod to my ex (his dad) so I can't check.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

Would his phone and ipod have the same charger? Most phone chargers are universal now.

Just wondering if something could have happened to his charger.

 

[jjenny]

Maybe he did run out after his dad? Or opened the door to check if the truck was gone? If you think of it as happening early, like right after his dad left, that's not a stretch.



We have such limited information that it's easy to build additional "facts" into the scenarios without intending, IMO. Questioning and confirming and asking for links etc keeps this exercise honest.

I think messages off the ipod are backed up to itunes or the cloud if you have backups set up. If you don't I think you might have to contact Apple to get that history, which I'm sure LE would do. IMO and all that, I don't have a link and we just at Christmas moved my son off the ipod and onto his own iphone and he gave his ipod to my ex (his dad) so I can't check.

MR claims Dylan was "out like a light." How is he going to "run out after his dad" and with all his things (and a fishing pole)? Just not believable, IMO.

 

[azgrandma]

One of my kids is a techno genius, I'm going to check about the iPod messages and how those can be accessed.

In regards to the charger fitting both the iPod & phone, possible, I believe I read somewhere, a looooooong time ago that companies were going to start making them more universal and phase out the different charger for different item thing.

night all.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

I don't know how much texting Dylan did but he had a lot of time at the airport and on the plane. I played games on my laptop to pass time during my last flight. I imagine he could have easily run down the battery on both devices. We don't know if he charged his phone at MR's or not because it hasn't been mentioned.

I just think there is the possibility that something could have happened with the charger. It could have broke, been lost or even left behind. If left behind, I would think ER would have noticed though.

 

[azgrandma]

one thing before I check out. Is information from other websites that are not MSM allowed to be linked? information in regards to this case that is being discussed elsewhere (not fb)

TIA

 

[Babbi-Dan]

Ok someone clarify this for me. He is saying that both parents agree that Dylan would not run away correct? And in the prior interview he was also asking Dylan's abductor to dump him at Walmart etc. And he stated early on that he thought Dylan was abducted and was nowhere in the area. But now he's saying he's concerned that Dylan may now be choosing not to come because of the bickering going on between his parents?

Is this what this man is trying to say here?

I think MR is considering all possible scenarios.

 

[ColdHands]

Would his phone and ipod have the same charger? Most phone chargers are universal now.

Just wondering if something could have happened to his charger.

I am 99.9% sure that they would not share a charger. Apple uses a proprietary charger. Most phones have switched now to the mini-USB, although my sons old Pantech phone had not. Unless it was an Apple phone it would have had a different charger.

Holding back that .1% simply because I have no link so this is MOO.

 

[deoneta]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/-/s...in-bayfield-area-for-missing-dylan-redwine-13



I'm still looking for a article where LE says they ruled out this was Dylan.

The date of that article was 11-25. On 11-28, Bender said:

“There’s a combination of factors,” Bender said. “There’s been the passage of time without any sightings; Dylan was not a visitor but had friends here; he has a history of staying in contact with his family and friends; and there’s been nothing on his cellphone record since he was reported missing.”

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...2/Dylan-Redwine-did-not-run-away-police-say--

Several sources said earlier sightings had been ruled out, but these were not directly attributed to LE. All MOO

 

[Babbi-Dan]

I've listened to/read her interviews and did not see anything that stood out, in comparison to a laundry list of unusual statements by MR, IMO. I haven't discounted any theory, and I imagine your scenario is certainly possible and it's as good as any other. I just find it very hard to believe though that someone related to a teenager could keep them quiet and hidden this long. Who can keep a teenager quiet and off his phone, period?

Don't abductors do this all the time with adults? I see it in the movies all the time! (Ha!)

 

[Babbi-Dan]

maybe he was just having a hard time stringing his thoughts together

as he said, it's Flustrating


:55


http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/02/...-confirms-appearance-on-dr-phil-with-ex-wife/

We have a lot of "uneducated" people in our church. They all talk like MR does. He has stated that he is "uneducated" (his exact term?). I am used to this kind of talking and have no problems with it myself. Guess a lot would depend on where you live. If you deal with "educated" people all the time, this kind of talk might indeed seem strange. But if you deal with "uneducated" people all the time, this kind of talk just seems "normal."