CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #35

[azgrandma]

Ok someone clarify this for me. He is saying that both parents agree that Dylan would not run away correct? And in the prior interview he was also asking Dylan's abductor to dump him at Walmart etc. And he stated early on that he thought Dylan was abducted and was nowhere in the area. But now he's saying he's concerned that Dylan may now be choosing not to come because of the bickering going on between his parents?

Is this what this man is trying to say here?

Psychic, let me help you out here. Yes, that's what he is trying to say. Dylan is CHOOSING not to come home because he sees the conflict between mom & dad. Obviously IMO Dylan never saw any conflict until he disappeared. Remember he doesn't have anything to runaway from.
Now that has disappeared himself, he has at least ONE reason to stay away.

SMH

 

[Confusion]

BBM - are you saying that Dylan may not have a choice to go home or not, but he has access to read news, watch news, follow fb, all that and can't communicate? Doesn't make sense IMO. I can't see a 14 yo boy viewing the pain his mother is in and saying, oh well, when they stop arguing I'll come home.

IMOO - Mark is doing what he does best, coming up with excuses. IMO, MR is setting up the excuse for why Dylan's facebook acct has been hacked. IMO MR is giving an excuse for Dylan's disappearance and allowing ER to absorb some of the responsibility.

Yes, I was saying that he may not have a choice about going home, but still have access to media. If he has no choice about it, I don't know where you get that it means he'll just wait for the arguing to stop. :waitasec:

It's possible that MR is just coming up with excuses, but I think it's also possible that, like many of us, he's looking for explanations. MOO

 

[SCHMAE]

Psychic, let me help you out here. Yes, that's what he is trying to say. Dylan is CHOOSING not to come home because he sees the conflict between mom & dad. Obviously IMO Dylan never saw any conflict until he disappeared. Remember he doesn't have anything to runaway from.
Now that has disappeared himself, he has at least ONE reason to stay away.

SMH

If he's choosing not to go home because of mom and dad bickering POST his disappearance, then why did he disappear in the first place? :banghead:

 

[azgrandma]

If he's choosing not to go home because of mom and dad bickering POST his disappearance, then why did he disappear in the first place? :banghead:

IDK but according to MR, Dylan had nothing to runaway from but now he has something to stay away from.

 

[cluciano63]

IDK but according to MR, Dylan had nothing to runaway from but now he has something to stay away from.

If that is the logic, then wouldn't Dylan just come back, so the bickering and back and forth would stop? How would staying away help anything?

The very idea that Dylan is out there watching TV or reading the coverage is ludicrous to me. Jmo

 

[Eileen730]

Is he really suggesting that his 13 year old son voluntarily won't come back home because he is upset that "mom and dad" don't get along?
So what does he think his 13 year old son has been doing all this time?

Fishing?

 

[Confusion]

IDK but according to MR, Dylan had nothing to runaway from but now he has something to stay away from.

I didn't see where he said it was a reason for him to stay away, only that he was afraid that he was out there being able to see it. Did I miss something, or is that just speculation? TIA

 

[BeginnersLuck]

BBM - are you saying that Dylan may not have a choice to go home or not, but he has access to read news, watch news, follow fb, all that and can't communicate? Doesn't make sense IMO. I can't see a 14 yo boy viewing the pain his mother is in and saying, oh well, when they stop arguing I'll come home.

IMOO - Mark is doing what he does best, coming up with excuses. IMO, MR is setting up the excuse for why Dylan's facebook acct has been hacked. IMO MR is giving an excuse for Dylan's disappearance and allowing ER to absorb some of the responsibility.

When was Dylan's facebook hacked? I will tell you that LE will monitor and accept friends requests in missing persons cases. I have seen them do this to see if it helps in any leads. I have seen this in many cases.

In Sierra Lamar's case there was also some one that hacked her accounts. The more publicity a case gets, expect to see strange things happen. Idiots will even create FB pages claiming to be the missing child or if found deceased even a dead child. It's horrible.

I hope LE is aware of and has looked into all of Dylans FB accounts because he has quite a few.

 

[azgrandma]

I didn't see where he said it was a reason for him to stay away, only that he was afraid that he was out there being able to see it. Did I miss something, or is that just speculation? TIA

I agree, he didn't say it was a reason to stay away. He implied that Dylan is seeing all of this bickering between mom & dad and it's a huge concern for Dylan.

If Dylan is seeing this, that means he has to have the ability to read the articles, facebook & news stories on the internet. There has not been one news broadcast that showed bickering between ER & MR. Actually, the only "conflict" has been from people that are NOT ER or MR. If Dylan is able to have access to the internet, then why hasn't he contacted anyone? Or perhaps the person(s) responsible for his disappearance just google Dylan Redwine and let him read the articles, watch the videos but not touch the computer. IDK.



“My fear is he’s out there somewhere, able to see what’s going on and he sees the conflict going on between his mom and I,” said Mark Redwine. “I think that’s a huge concern. But who knows what goes through a 13-year-old’s head.”

 

[The Cheese]

I didn't see where he said it was a reason for him to stay away, only that he was afraid that he was out there being able to see it. Did I miss something, or is that just speculation? TIA

You didn't miss anything. Mark didn't say it. Things are spinning and speculation is becoming fact. :twocents:

 

[azgrandma]

When was Dylan's facebook hacked? I will tell you that LE will monitor and accept friends requests in missing persons cases. I have seen them do this to see if it helps in any leads. I have seen this in many cases.

In Sierra Lamar's case there was also some one that hacked her accounts. The more publicity a case gets, expect to see strange things happen. Idiots will even create FB pages claiming to be the missing child or if found deceased even a dead child. It's horrible.

I hope LE is aware of and has looked into all of Dylans FB accounts because he has quite a few.

LE may do that, but I highly doubt that LE would "like" Taco Bell, Target, etc. or make friend request to others.

 

[The Cheese]

Update posted on FMDR by the K9 Forensics owner

https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine/posts/601994783160462

 

[SmoothOperator]

You didn't miss anything. Mark didn't say it. Things are spinning and speculation is becoming fact. :twocents:

MOO no spinning HERE!

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

This is exactly why I wanted to see MR speak, but honestly I never expected it to be this bad.

 

[nikb]

It's not strange considering it was almost 3 months ago. It'd be hard to remember much of a description over this time.
So how does the tipster know the exact date? And why wasn't this tip send in sooner if tipster considered it to be of value? If tipster didn't consider it to be of value then, what changed now?

Good points. I guess what comes to my mind is how does "hispanic male" help find someone? IMO given the description they ruled out teenagers, the elderly, and a few races. I say a few races only because I've known of people who might consider anyone who's not either pasty white or black to be "hispanic," and they might mistake the same person for Italian, Asian, etc. Completely agree it'd be hard to describe someone in detail this much after whatever it is that happened, though. Especially if the person didn't stand out or had no reason to stand out at the time.

 

[azgrandma]

Good points. I guess what comes to my mind is how does "hispanic male" help find someone? IMO given the description they ruled out teenagers, the elderly, and a few races. I say a few races only because I've known of people who might consider anyone who's not either pasty white or black to be "hispanic," and they might mistake the same person for Italian, Asian, etc. Completely agree it'd be hard to describe someone in detail this much after whatever it is that happened, though. Especially if the person didn't stand out or had no reason to stand out at the time.

IMO LE wants to speak with this individual to find out IF they saw anything that could help. JMO

 

[thepinkdragon]

I guess I'll have to do some thinking on this - my understanding seems to be different from everybody else's. I thought that “My ex-wife and I both agree that Dylan is not the kind of kid that would run away but I also think that there’s a possibility that Dylan was torn between his parents,” meant that he's not the type, but he might have done it for this reason; something like, "I don't care for spaghetti, but I'll eat it if I'm really hungry."

I didn't think the other part meant that DR had a choice about whether he went home or not, but more that he was concerned about the effect their conflict might be having on him if he does have any access to the media. Now I have to decide if I agree more with what I think or with what everybody else does. :waitasec: MOO

I think like you. I will also come out and say my theory which will be highly unpopular. I believe a family member has Dylan unbeknownst to either parent. I have reasons that lead me to believe this but I cannot discuss it here due to possible rumor and speculation. I guess what I'm saying is although the odds are against it there is a chance he is alive and is being held against his will by a misguided loved one who feels they needed to intervene. I also think if this were the case he would be held in a remote area like a cabin in the mountains. MOO


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[SmoothOperator]

Is MR insinuating he ran away, or not? :waitasec:

Seems it would make a difference to LE in how they handle a case?



Well, he did ask the 'abductor' to...



from that last uncut interview

He also suggested Dylan to find a way to use the phone and to pray to his abductors to let him go.:waitasec:

 

[Salem]

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“My fear is he’s out there somewhere, able to see what’s going on and he sees the conflict going on between his mom and I,” said Mark Redwine. “I think that’s a huge concern. But who knows what goes through a 13-year-old’s head.”

This, to me, is the odd part of that statement. It is a concern that where ever Dylan is, this bickering between ER & MR could be used against Dylan is a mean spirited way by some abducter - which to me is what MR is trying to say in the first part of the statement. BUT then he puts it squarely on Dylan by saying "who knows ......" What the he&** does that mean?

Very odd thing to say.

Salem

 

[Confusion]

~Respectfully snipped ~

This, to me, is the odd part of that statement. It is a concern that where ever Dylan is, this bickering between ER & MR could be used against Dylan is a mean spirited way by some abducter - which to me is what MR is trying to say in the first part of the statement. BUT then he puts it squarely on Dylan by saying "who knows ......" What the he&** does that mean?

Very odd thing to say.

Salem

I could see someone saying, "See, your father doesn't care about you! He won't even ..." or "See, all your mother cares about is having the chance to complain about your father." The person could easily record the videos and play them for him just to work toward getting him to eventually agree not to turn the person in if he ever is freed. MOO