CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #35

[Ghostwheel]

http://www.koat.com/news/Rallies-ma...hday/-/9154100/18427994/-/4kccmj/-/index.html
Bike at about 1:15 into the video.

Looking at this bike, barring it having flat tires, I cannot imagine a 13 year old boy walking to see friends rather than taking this bike (I see 18 year olds riding this size bike) unless he never rode bikes at all. The bike would get him there faster. I should think Dylan would have called his friend from the land line to tell him he was coming over.

As an aside, I asked my 13 year old flaky as all get out son what he would do if he was planning on visiting his friends at 6:30 am and I tried to wake him up to take him and he was too tired to get up. His response was "That would never happen. If I hadn't seen my friends in a while, I would get up, no matter how tired I was."
So I asked him, what if you didn't really understand me when I was talking to you, and fell back asleep. You wake up and I am gone, what would you do? "Call my friends!"
Would you be concerned that I was gone? "Not really, you guys leave me home all the time."
Would you go walk over to see them (I didn't say how far) "Not until I had called them to see if they were still there and called YOU to see where you were! Maybe I could get a ride."
Might you have gone and forgotten to leave me a note? "If my friends came and got me, THAT could happen. But I'd call and at least leave a message later."
What if you didn't want to be at the place you were at, what if someone MADE you go there, would your answers change? "That depends on how much I didn't want to be there. Yeah, if I really didn't want to be there, I'd just do whatever I wanted and wouldn't care what anyone else thought."


So take that as an input from a 13 year old that can't remember his jacket, leaves a sock under the edge of the couch almost every night, and walks 6 miles at a shot without batting an eye. I think his last statement is very telling.

 

[MissJ]

What friend of MR or ER would risk going to prison for the rest of their lives in order to hold a teen age boy against his will for weeks or months? And be so successful at it that DR does not have any opportunity to get away or call someone? MOO. I can't imagine why someone would do such a thing unless that person was just nuts.

 

[SmoothOperator]

The only thing I can think of is a current lover of MR who is angry about the time, money and effort that their significant other is spending on a divorce that is 5 years past and on custody and possibly child support issues for a child that he now has to go out of his way to spend time with.

ETA: Was MR's situation with Dylan causing someone else in his life a problem?

MOO

I can discuss this possibility..its atleast a scenario that IMO has some believable qualities IMO<modsnip>the scenarios and cases that come to mind are Jade Morris, from Vegas the week of Christmas.. youve got a volatile, unstable gf of the father who takes out her anger and jealousy on his child..and then IMO there's Kyron's case that has similar dynamics of a volatile, unstable wife of the father who takes out her anger, resentment, and jealousy on the man's child.

Sadly, IMO I believe both resulted in murder, yet Kyron's body remains unlocated nearly 3 years later..

So, while yes, I find this scenario to be a legitimate possibility however in this case specifically I still find it to be NOT a realistic possibility where Dylan's concerned.. unless of course there is a whole other person and relationship that we're unaware of WRT Mark Redwine.. MOO is that if there was a significant other in Mark's life we would know and IMO if there was one that even so much as possibly had negativity where Dylan was concerned I havent a doubt that Elaine would have been vocal about her..

all jmo.

 

[SCHMAE]

Sorry if ya'll saw this yesterday !

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...RONTPAGE/Dr-Phil-working-on-a-Redwine-program

 

[Kamille]

I can discuss this possibility..its atleast a scenario that IMO has some believable qualities IMO<modsnip> the scenarios and cases that come to mind are Jade Morris, from Vegas the week of Christmas.. youve got a volatile, unstable gf of the father who takes out her anger and jealousy on his child..and then IMO there's Kyron's case that has similar dynamics of a volatile, unstable wife of the father who takes out her anger, resentment, and jealousy on the man's child.

Sadly, IMO I believe both resulted in murder, yet Kyron's body remains unlocated nearly 3 years later..

So, while yes, I find this scenario to be a legitimate possibility however in this case specifically I still find it to be NOT a realistic possibility where Dylan's concerned.. unless of course there is a whole other person and relationship that we're unaware of WRT Mark Redwine.. MOO is that if there was a significant other in Mark's life we would know and IMO if there was one that even so much as possibly had negativity where Dylan was concerned I havent a doubt that Elaine would have been vocal about her..

all jmo.

Well that's the thing though. MR has been travelling "out of state" (he stated he was in Silver City New Mexico before Dylan came for this visit) for work for years according to ER. But she has no idea what he does for work. She would never know if he had a female companion, who perhaps lives out of state as well. I know of no company that is going to send an employee out of state for weeks on end for years and pay for accomodation and lodging in motels. Why wouldn't they just hire someone who lives in the area? So unless he's actually doing long distance hauling and is living in a truck cab for weeks on end, then he has to be residing somewhere when he's out of town..and quite possibly with someone.

MOO

 

[Tennlyn]

Sorry if ya'll saw this yesterday !

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...RONTPAGE/Dr-Phil-working-on-a-Redwine-program

Quote by MR:
"Hopefully, Dr. Phil will take a position where he can address some of those issues and help us as a family focus on what is really important right now. We don’t have time to be pointing fingers and making blame or standing out in front of my house like a bunch of idiots holding this (stupid) rally to call me out.”

Since the rally was Cory's idea, I guess he thinks Cory is an idiot. What a nice Dad. No wonder his 3 adult sons won't talk to him anymore. :moo::moo::moo:

 

[mijamawi]

By the way, the bike in the picture I posted looks to be in fine working order and looks to be exactly the type of bike that ER claims that Dylan likes to ride.

And I'd still like to know when it got outside like that and why. Has it been there since Dylan's last visit in September? Was it taken out Sunday night? How could a nice looking bike like that sit in front of a frequently vacant home for months without being stolen. Would seem like a very safe neighbourhood. And yet a child is missing from the same location?

:waitasec:

MOO

I have a fabulous bike I received for mother's day last year. We as a family ride all the time. There's no rust on it right now, but there is a flat tube, which makes it impossible to ride.

Well that's the thing though. MR has been travelling "out of state" (he stated he was in Silver City New Mexico before Dylan came for this visit) for work for years according to ER. But she has no idea what he does for work. She would never know if he had a female companion, who perhaps lives out of state as well. I know of no company that is going to send an employee out of state for weeks on end for years and pay for accomodation and lodging in motels. Why wouldn't they just hire someone who lives in the area? So unless he's actually doing long distance hauling and is living in a truck cab for weeks on end, then he has to be residing somewhere when he's out of town..and quite possibly with someone.

MOO

I would assume MR is not the only person who works out of town for his company. In this scenario, every single employee would have to have someone to *wink wink* stay with. Most decent companies, and I've heard of United Pipeline before so I'm pretty sure they have some sort of corporate rentals for their employees to stay in while on job sites. MOO

 

[SuperMom1995]

R woke up and was waiting for him!
We dont know if he went back to sleep.


From Dylans texts the night before R may have thought it best to wait to hear from Dylan that maybe DAD wasnt going to let him come again!

If Dylan was in that house he would have gotten up!

JMO

If he was able to ...

 

[mijamawi]

Quote by MR:
"Hopefully, Dr. Phil will take a position where he can address some of those issues and help us as a family focus on what is really important right now. We don’t have time to be pointing fingers and making blame or standing out in front of my house like a bunch of idiots holding this (stupid) rally to call me out.”

Since the rally was Cory's idea, I guess he thinks Cory is an idiot. What a nice Dad. No wonder his 3 adult sons won't talk to him anymore. :moo::moo::moo:

At this point if MR truly has nothing to do with Dylan, then I don't blame him for calling CR an idiot. They are so focused on Mark, they can't even acknowledge the possible witness LE has thrown out there, which is a shame. JMO

 

[tamild]

Well that's the thing though. MR has been travelling "out of state" (he stated he was in Silver City New Mexico before Dylan came for this visit) for work for years according to ER. But she has no idea what he does for work. She would never know if he had a female companion, who perhaps lives out of state as well. I know of no company that is going to send an employee out of state for weeks on end for years and pay for accomodation and lodging in motels. Why wouldn't they just hire someone who lives in the area? So unless he's actually doing long distance hauling and is living in a truck cab for weeks on end, then he has to be residing somewhere when he's out of town..and quite possibly with someone.

MOO

He could be skilled labor. It's fairly common to be sent to different job sites for months at a time if that's the case.

 

[SuperMom1995]

Yes. I'd have to look for a link, but I'm pretty sure they have been divorced for a good many years. I'm thinking 6, but that could well be wrong. All MOO

ETA: 2007

I believe I read 2008.

 

[SuperMom1995]

Any statement has to be considered in context of the circumstances, and the speakers' state of mind.

While I found it dismaying that both of Dylan's parents spoke about him in past tense at times, I could understand it (while practising my Statement Analysis skillz, as fledgling as they are) since Dylan's been missing for months, and hope must be wearing thin by now even if they don't verbally or even consciously admit it. So, I wisely discounted it - it would have been a very different story if he'd only been missing a few days!

The woman interviewing them used past tense, too, probably for much the same reason.

I agree but I believe MR used past tense very early on for whatever reason.

 

[SCHMAE]

Quote by MR:
"Hopefully, Dr. Phil will take a position where he can address some of those issues and help us as a family focus on what is really important right now. We don’t have time to be pointing fingers and making blame or standing out in front of my house like a bunch of idiots holding this (stupid) rally to call me out.”

Since the rally was Cory's idea, I guess he thinks Cory is an idiot. What a nice Dad. No wonder his 3 adult sons won't talk to him anymore. :moo::moo::moo:

He did say in one of those texts PARAPHRASING.. " im always amazed how ignorant/ stupid you can be' or something like that that I thought was pretty mean to say to your own kid.

 

[Confusion]

<SNIP>
I would assume MR is not the only person who works out of town for his company. In this scenario, every single employee would have to have someone to *wink wink* stay with. Most decent companies, and I've heard of United Pipeline before so I'm pretty sure they have some sort of corporate rentals for their employees to stay in while on job sites. MOO

Several years ago I lived next door to a house that was rented out to several guys who were laying pipe for the gas company. I talked to a couple of them during the months they were there, and they said that the company they worked for always found a house to rent in the area where they'd be working because it was so much cheaper than living in motels.

 

[mijamawi]

I agree but I believe MR used past tense very early on for whatever reason.

Pretty sure others used past tense before MR ever even spoke to the public....for whatever reason.

 

[Kamille]

I have a fabulous bike I received for mother's day last year. We as a family ride all the time. There's no rust on it right now, but there is a flat tube, which makes it impossible to ride.




I would assume MR is not the only person who works out of town for his company. In this scenario, every single employee would have to have someone to *wink wink* stay with. Most decent companies, and I've heard of United Pipeline before so I'm pretty sure they have some sort of corporate rentals for their employees to stay in while on job sites. MOO

Well then I guess we don't need to consider the possibility that someone close to MR from out of state had a problem with his relationship with Dylan and unbeknown to MR decided to disappear him?

 

[SmoothOperator]

IMO the more talking he does the better.. the more confident he feels the better .. yapping about people who are busting to find Dylan being stupid, or what they're doing isn't good enough or to his liking(his comments about ELAINE turning down a business endeavor he found promising and other events where ER/CR are concerned).. IMO keep talking...

LE, state, and FBI may not be as clueless about Dylan's "disappearance" as some may believe them to be..

 

[mijamawi]

He did say in one of those texts PARAPHRASING.. " im always amazed how ignorant/ stupid you can be' or something like that that I thought was pretty mean to say to your own kid.

You are absolutely right, it's a horrible thing to say to anyone, let alone your own kid. I'd love to see the whole conversation though.

 

[cluciano63]

Why is it any more likely this unknown mystery "witness" would have seen Dylan, when no one else did? Surely locals were out and about on a Monday morning.

 

[SuperMom1995]

1. LE releases a rare lead to the public coming from the actual investigation.
2. Folks work tirelessly to dismiss said lead.
3. Back to blaming MR.

<modsnip>. Fostercare or otherwise there is an emense responsibility felt to protect them and care for them. These adults do not knap when their children are missing nor do they put off any event or conversation or anything else that might help find their child or help their child in any way unless they have emotional or mental issues that keep them from feeling that urgency and that responsibility Or unless they know they are responsible for the absence or death of that child and do not want to be found out. JMO