CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #36

[margarita25]

Guys, some really odd ball thoughts way out from left field here, but trying to think of alternate scenarios...sorry if they sound crazy...

1. What if MR had some shady business dealings or was in debt to someone? (This entity somehow being involved in Dylan's disappearance.) Perhaps they threatened MR not to call the cops.

2. What if there was an accident at the house which MR did not directly participate in (for example Dylan slipped and hit his head, there was a gun accident, etc...did Dylan have any food allergies?)...Perhaps while MR is not directly responsible for the accident, he feels compelled to cover it up because he knows ER will blame him and try to hold him responsible.

 

[Ransom]

Night all. Sleep well.

 

[scorekeeper]

In this case, dad called mom to ask if she had heard from him. Had that ever happened before ... when he would not tell his son where his mom was?

no dad sent mom a text.....I believe dad has not communicated with ex-wife or older brother except by text...oh, dad did meet once at LE with 2 of his estranged sons...and Cory did talk to dad at the candlelight vigil

I believe Cory said he took him and Dylan once to his boss's cabin and would not let them talk to their mom

I believe Mark also did not return his kids to his 1st wife on time either...she had to file a police report...she is a poster here (azgrandma) and a verified insider

 

[i8mypaint]

I agree that I would have preferred a phone call, but that is just me. I hate texts. But, if it upset her, why didn't she just call him back to get more information or details? It didn't seem to upset her so why does it upset anyone else? jmo

I thought in her last uncut interview she was upset? I'll have to read the transcripts. MOO

 

[azgrandma]

I was just looking at MR and wondering why everyone hates him so much. His sons, his ex-wives.

I'll give it that he might be a jerk, a humungous jerk, but how does anyone get from him being a jerk to a murderer of his own child??? I do not get it.

My ex-SIL is an SOB, a serious SOB. I can't stand him, he's not a father at all, didn't pay child support, then got custody of one of the kids and collected child support thanks to CPS. There is a whole lot more to this story, he even did 3 1/2 years in PRISON. And I still wouldn't accuse him of murder if someone close to him disappeared. I would not do that. That's an really ugly accusation. IMO, JMO, MOO.

Seajay, I get that. How does one go from a jerk to this? I struggled with it for days, literally vomitting. It's not something you want to think, you try to think everything but that. The reason I came here is because I wanted to be proven wrong and I still do. Everything and anything that anyone might say about me, it's not something I didn't say to myself. It's not easy, never claimed for it to be and I know you aren't saying it is. It's a torment that I can't describe or even begin to put in words. When you honestly have to say those words to someone. I can write them, it's easy because there is no way of knowing how long it has taken me to write them. But I choke each time, I dance each time, and each time those words are said, I cry. I know MR and as much as anyone may believe that it was years ago, he hasn't changed. I have sat here and predicted with 100% accuracy what he would say and do. Yes, there are things that I have since heard that have shocked me, but what not in a good way. His actions then are exactly the same as they are now.
I, of all the people in the world, do not want to know that I could have married someone that is capable of harming a child. I don't want my kids to know that the are a product of that. If I could tell you the talks that we have had, they would tear your heart apart. We DON'T want to believe it, we DON'T want to think it and we absolutely DON'T want to live it. But we are. I don't remember the last conversation my children had with me where we didn't force ourselves to NOT discuss Dylan or MR. I find it hard to even say or type his name, that's how hard it is.
How someone can go from A to B is beyond my scope of understanding and acceptance. It does seem more and more that it is our reality. I was not easy or made lightly.

 

[TxJan1971]

Not shooting anyone. I posted link to support what I said. Oh well...... AND there was no Press release at all about the last text message at 9:37 pm. IF you have one, please post. Only thing I read (above) was opinion. TIA

Copied from previous poster who provided this press release:

News Release: Sheriff Office Continues Search for Dylan Redwine
Date: Thursday 1-24-12

La Plata County Sheriff’s Office and the Dylan Redwine Task Force is continuing its investigation into the disappearance of 13 year old Dylan Redwine. Dylan was reported missing by his father, Mark Redwine on November 19th, less than a day after arriving in La Plata County for a court ordered visitation.
...
LPCSO investigators from three different bureaus are following various tips that come in to the Task Force which consists of five local, state and federal law enforcement agencies . In the past few days, investigators have searched locations on snowshoes, under bridges, and other sites in three different areas in La Plata County and two other locations in Colorado.

LPCSO investigators and agents from the FBI met recently to develop strategies and review results of tests of evidence by CBI. Additional interviews are also being conducted locally and outside the area. In several cases, law enforcement agencies not connected to the Task Force have assisted in searches and interviews in Colorado and other states.

LPCSO Lt Ed Phippen, Task Force Leader said tips are promptly followed up on, regardless of reliability
including several from psychics and mediums. “We want to leave no stone unturned” he said.

An updated timeline for Dylan’s activities on Sunday November 18th has been released:

5:46PM Dylan arrived at Durango-La Plata airport.
7:05 PM Dylan at Durango Walmart
7:22 PM Dylan at Durango McDonalds
9:37PM Dylan’s last electronic device communication (texting)

 

[NC Analyzer]

One thing to note Otto. Mother was several hundred miles away. As was her fiance and oldest son. For some reason there is a lot of anger directed toward her for speaking up about her suspicions about dad. I don't understand it, but some prefer to think of her as a vindictive ex wife, when in actuality she clearly had moved on from this relationship. She had a very good job, a fiance', they just built a new house together and all reports from people close to Dylan was that he was a happy kid, lots of friends, loved school and had settled in nicely after they moved to Colorado Springs last July.
Dad's first ex wife is a verified insider on this case and she has provided a lot of insight into the workings of dad's personality. A lot of people also choose to disregard her statements, but clearly, she hasn't had any interest in dad for many years although he did tie her up with repeated court actions for years after their divorce was final. He also kept her kids from her for a couple of days as well. Dad seems to enjoy employing the courts for long periods of time after the divorce is final.

JMO

 

[Money Girl]

Night all. Sleep well.

Have a good night, Ransom.

Thanks for all you do to keep us on track.

 

[margarita25]

Guys, also, I'm sure this has been addressed, sorry if it has, I'm trying to keep up here, so many posts!

In recent light of the Dillon McKee case, could he have met someone while online gaming, you know, like XBOX Call of Duty? I need to go back to the second uncut interview and review MR's comments as far as Dylan playing video games...I'm sure LE would've looked at this already thoroughly. (I'm guessing this is why you guys might have been playing I Spy earlier? I need to go back.)

 

[ColdHands]

Guys, some really odd ball thoughts way out from left field here, but trying to think of alternate scenarios...sorry if they sound crazy...

1. What if MR had some shady business dealings or was in debt to someone? (This entity somehow being involved in Dylan's disappearance.) Perhaps they threatened MR not to call the cops.

2. What if there was an accident at the house which MR did not directly participate in (for example Dylan slipped and hit his head, there was a gun accident, etc...did Dylan have any food allergies?)...Perhaps while MR is not directly responsible for the accident, he feels compelled to cover it up because he knows ER will blame him and try to hold him responsible.

1) brought that up as a possibility on Thursday, under the Some Other Dude Did It theory - It being either murder or abduction
2) brought that up on Friday under the MR Did It -Accidental with Coverup.

For the first one, I'd like to know if MR is exhibiting any behavior changes, such as agitation, etc. Nothing has been said about him acting freaked out, which I have to imagine he would be. IMO

For the second, same thing, agitation or something - remorse and self blame? but there's absolutely nothing published that would indicate it. IMO

 

[scorekeeper]

http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=303598

and don't forget the sex in the yard for the kids to see.....

with that I say, night all

 

[nikb]

Seajay, I get that. How does one go from a jerk to this? I struggled with it for days, literally vomitting. It's not something you want to think, you try to think everything but that. The reason I came here is because I wanted to be proven wrong and I still do. Everything and anything that anyone might say about me, it's not something I didn't say to myself. It's not easy, never claimed for it to be and I know you aren't saying it is. It's a torment that I can't describe or even begin to put in words. When you honestly have to say those words to someone. I can write them, it's easy because there is no way of knowing how long it has taken me to write them. But I choke each time, I dance each time, and each time those words are said, I cry. I know MR and as much as anyone may believe that it was years ago, he hasn't changed. I have sat here and predicted with 100% accuracy what he would say and do. Yes, there are things that I have since heard that have shocked me, but what not in a good way. His actions then are exactly the same as they are now.
I, of all the people in the world, do not want to know that I could have married someone that is capable of harming a child. I don't want my kids to know that the are a product of that. If I could tell you the talks that we have had, they would tear your heart apart. We DON'T want to believe it, we DON'T want to think it and we absolutely DON'T want to live it. But we are. I don't remember the last conversation my children had with me where we didn't force ourselves to NOT discuss Dylan or MR. I find it hard to even say or type his name, that's how hard it is.
How someone can go from A to B is beyond my scope of understanding and acceptance. It does seem more and more that it is our reality. I was not easy or made lightly.

Hugs to you Azgrandma, and thank you for posting here. I'm sure it's incredibly hard and I'm sorry you're going through all this. I know it's hard for me as a total stranger and can't even imagine how it is for you. I hope that somehow, some way, we all (including LE, FBI, etc.) can reach our goal of finding Dylan.

 

[jjenny]

Dismiss hitch hiking abduction on what basis? They don't like dad?

Dylan had a history of hitch hiking. He was probably wasting time doing nothing while his dad was out for a few hours. He had friends in the area and he probably wanted to get together with them that evening ... did Dylan vanish on a Friday?

It seems quite possible that he walked to the nearby highway, stuck out his thumb and did not run away. How far away is the other Dillon?

No, he didn't vanish on a Friday. I am not aware of any history of hitchiking. His friends knew of one incident of him catching a ride when he was together with friends.

 

[jjenny]

Guys, also, I'm sure this has been addressed, sorry if it has, I'm trying to keep up here, so many posts!

In recent light of the Dillon McKee case, could he have met someone while online gaming, you know, like XBOX Call of Duty? I need to go back to the second uncut interview and review MR's comments as far as Dylan playing video games...I'm sure LE would've looked at this already thoroughly. (I'm guessing this is why you guys might have been playing I Spy earlier? I need to go back.)

I don't believe he had an XBOX with him.

 

[azgrandma]

Hello otto long time no see!

According to the maternal side they have dismissed everything that does not involve MR.

If it does not involves MR, it could not possibly of happened.

IMO we haven't heard anything from the paternal side, so we would not know if the paternal side has dismissed everything that does not involve MR or not would we.
IMO anything is possible, not everything is probable.

 

[dlc]

One thing to note Otto. Mother was several hundred miles away. As was her fiance and oldest son. For some reason there is a lot of anger directed toward her for speaking up about her suspicions about dad. I don't understand it, but some prefer to think of her as a vindictive ex wife, when in actuality she clearly had moved on from this relationship. She had a very good job, a fiance', they just built a new house together and all reports from people close to Dylan was that he was a happy kid, lots of friends, loved school and had settled in nicely after they moved to Colorado Springs last July.
Dad's first ex wife is a verified insider on this case and she has provided a lot of insight into the workings of dad's personality. A lot of people also choose to disregard her statements, but clearly, she hasn't had any interest in dad for many years although he did tie her up with repeated court actions for years after their divorce was final. He also kept her kids from her for a couple of days as well. Dad seems to enjoy employing the courts for long periods of time after the divorce is final.

JMO

BBM

I agree, but wanted to add that Dylan's mom did not express her fears until Dylan had been missing a week, and his father was refusing to respond to texts by her or their other son (she has been accused of crucifying him "right off the bat, etc., which she did not do, IMO).

Also, AzGrandma is the verified insider being referred to, in case that's not clear.

Thanks.

 

[margarita25]

Re: MR's second interview, I do not want to say his voice seems to be, uh, like he's discussing a Zen retreat because I am not in his mind or situation, but I don't know, I'm trying to find the word for what his vocal mannerisms remind me of...It reminds me of what I might sound like when I've been accused of using my "kindergarten voice" to adults, lol. Hard to put into words....I don't want to say calm, singsongy, patronizing, placating or condescending, but there's something there that seems familiar to me, like when I am trying to diffuse a situation.

 

[NC Analyzer]

BBM

I agree, but wanted to add that Dylan's mom did not express her fears until Dylan had been missing a week, and his father was refusing to respond to texts by her or their other son (she has been accused of crucifying him "right off the bat, etc., which she did not do, IMO).

Also, AzGrandma is the verified insider being referred to, in case that's not clear.

Thanks.

Thanks dlc. It's just hard to consolidate this case when you really get down to it, lol :great:

 

[dlc]

Thanks dlc. It's just hard to consolidate this case when you really get down to it, lol :great:

You do a great job. I started trying to explain the case to someone today, and got unbelievably frustrated. I was so happy to see you come back -- thought we'd lost you.

 

[azgrandma]

The only thing LE to my knowledge has ruled out is runaway.

The dad allowed searches, did interviews with LE, did a formal interview with the task force, without a lawyer, LE started searching pretty much right away, thus I don't think they truly ever considered him a runaway.

They had SAR dogs the first night and the following day.

According to the mom there were no scent items for the dogs on the Monday, so they waited to the weekend before they went back and retrieved scent items.

Not sure what those very awesome doggy noses used to track with :waitasec:

Thus according to the mom no scent articles. LE has not stated this.

LE has come out repeatedly stating that he is not a suspect, but I am sure he is being looked at closely.

I as well though believe, due to the antics on the maternal side, that they have raised a number of red flags. That is MOO though.

What are the red flags? tia