CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #37

[Psychic Sleuth]

If that's the case, that's truly unfortunate. Children have enough challenges growing up without having to hear about problems between divorced parents.

And it's been ugly. I do agree with you but we all know this happens. Kids hear things. They know much more than we think they do. Not to mention I'm sure Dylan knew about the incident of Dad having sex on the lawn with Moms friend and the altercation between his brother and his Dad.

 

[Tennlyn]

Well, maybe it's just me, but I've talked to my kids about everything. I think it's pretty important to warn them about stranger danger as well, but that doesn't mean I'm thinking they'll get abducted. Same way I warn them about unprotected sex and pregnancy, drugs, guns, gangs, don't pet stray dogs, don't drink and drive....I could go on :floorlaugh:

Oh no! I forgot to warn him about stray dogs!!! :floorlaugh:

 

[Confusion]

Or the term was used to disguise whether the tipster was a man or a woman.

It was probably Pat who called it in!

Why would they be arguing? They weren't even living close to each other. Where was he going to sit listening to them arguing?

Knowing as many divorced people as I do, I don't believe a child has to be around arguing parents to get an earful of the animosity between them. I've been amazed at times by some of the things that an angry parent will say about an ex either to or in front of a child without giving a thought to how it will affect the kid. MOO

BBM

He had plenty of time to stash him away tho...

And then what? Just stick him in a shed somewhere and go back for him months later? From what I've been reading, it doesn't sound like he has any friends who like him enough to help him abduct anybody. MOO

Was Dylan a well adjusted happy child, or was he a rebellious child that would become confrontational with his father if his father said that it was too late to visit friends? I'm reading that this well adjusted happy child was rebellious and angry at his father because he couldn't do what he wanted ... that doesn't make sense.

He was said to be the peace keeper.

Dylan was about to turn 14. I think many 'well adjusted' boys go a bit nuts at that age.

Did you read about some of Marks past issues with anger management? He was the one with issues, not Dylan. But those issues were coming to a head because Elaine was about to remarry her first husband. Mark was very angry about that.

And there were ongoing court battles over custody and spousal support. Mark had just LOST a recent battle and not only lost his monetary support from Elaine, he was possibly going to have to pay some child support now.

Mark was the one who was likely confrontational, not Dylan. But D was now older and would probably stand up for himself more than previously.

I read about accusations made against him by his ex-wife, and about him being beaten by his son. Elaine and Cory have both said they don't believe he would have hurt him, and I see no reason to believe he did. MOO

 

[ColdHands]

Just got in from being off the grid for a few days and saw your message. I will work on catching up now. In the meantime, if there are specific questions post them and I will do my best to answer in a timely fashion!

Hello and thanks in advance!

Would a private organization such as the one that is working with the parents here, with HRD dogs and a tracking dog, work without first interacting with LE? There has been speculation about LE's involvement in the search for Dylan that started today.

 

[nursebeeme]

Just got in from being off the grid for a few days and saw your message. I will work on catching up now. In the meantime, if there are specific questions post them and I will do my best to answer in a timely fashion!

thank you sarx! Yes, I was wondering if you could give insight on how an independent SAR search is run/works.

The SAR group will be searching for two weeks.

Thanks again, sarx!~

 

[otto]

It makes perfect sense to me. At my house, my son was happy and well adjusted. At his father's house, he was rebellious and confrontational. Different parents and parenting styles meant different behaviors. :moo:

I would expect a child to be more cautious around a controlling, manipulative, unpredictable parent ... not more rebellious. By the age of 13, the child should know that it's a lost cause to go up against a manipulative, controlling parent.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Oh no! I forgot to warn him about stray dogs!!! :floorlaugh:

Don't eat yellow snow :great:

 

[The Cheese]

I don't "make up" anything. I'm very impartial when I examine any case. I've been an investigator for many years. There is a process of elimination. No matter what you (not you specifically) attempt to claim about this case, DAD has a giant red flag. Like it or not, it doesn't change anything. And YES, there are "elements". Perhaps you don't see them, but I'm pretty sure everyone in LE does. (again, not YOU specifically)

And I respect your right to have your opinions. That's a big thing I like about this forum. We all get to have our opinions.

 

[katydid23]

I discussed hitch hiking with my son about a month ago. He's 17. He has never hitch hiked but he heard from an older male that it was a perfectly good way for getting around. It had never crossed his mind before someone suggested that he try it. I asked him if it sounded like a good idea to get into a vehicle with a complete stranger.

We had a local on here that posted about the area. Apparently during ski season, tons of the locals 'hitchhike' a ride to the top of the mountain . It is a common practice because the road only goes to the lifts and many of the young locals do that. I did the same thing when I lived in Sun Valley. So I can see why a parent might discuss it with their young teen.

 

[otto]

Sure would have made more sense to let Dylan stay at R's house that night imo. Why was it "too late" to go to his friends house when they were already in town? Why not pick Dylan up the next day since MR had to go to town anyway? Then they could have done the shopping that MR said was so important because town was so far away. Why make such a fuss over getting those groceries right then, when they would be heading back to town to take Dylan to R's house? Just does not add up.

It is a 15 mile detour to go to Bayfield. 9 PM is also too late in my opinion for a 13 year old to visit friends.

 

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[katydid23]

I would expect a child to be more cautious around a controlling, manipulative, unpredictable parent ... not more rebellious. By the age of 13, the child should know that it's a lost cause to go up against a manipulative, controlling parent.

He had not had much contact with his father from age 10 until 13. He had just recently begun visitation again. And there were a bunch of family squabbles concerning moms remarriage surrounding them.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I would expect a child to be more cautious around a controlling, manipulative, unpredictable parent ... not more rebellious. By the age of 13, the child should know that it's a lost cause to go up against a manipulative, controlling parent.

Really? So Dylan should have known better? And 13 year old boys (almost 14) would have no reason to tell their manipulative, controlling father to %$#@ off? They all do eventually, especially after putting up with that type of parent for several years.

 

[otto]

This made me laugh. Sorry, I just made 4 trips this evening shuttling well behaved respectful teenage boys around to various places, and I'm not done yet for the night.

Everything else you've posted so far matched what I've been thinking, but not this one. The friends would have been much more important than the dad IMO.

I agree that the friends are more important to teenagers, but if he hadn't seen his dad for a while and this was a special trip to see him, then I would expect that he would understand that he had to spend at least a little time with his dad before he took off to be with friends.

 

[scorekeeper]

What kind of warning would be needed in an unsolved missing child case?

I would hope that LE would warn the public of a possible child abduction in the area....

 

[watcher9]

Locals have said it was more of a 45 minute drive. And he didnt know where his friends were at that time. They had texted and told him where they were going, but apparently his cell was never used that morning so he did not know that info.

Did anyone try the house phone?

 

[cluciano63]

I would expect a child to be more cautious around a controlling, manipulative, unpredictable parent ... not more rebellious. By the age of 13, the child should know that it's a lost cause to go up against a manipulative, controlling parent.

But dad said they were very close. In fact, he went on to say how much closer he was with Dylan than Dylan was with his mother. Everything was a competition, apparently.

 

[The Cheese]

:bump:

all opinions are allowed folks.

Thank you, nursebeeme and Websleuths! :heartbeat:

 

[Tennlyn]

I discussed hitch hiking with my son about a month ago. He's 17. He has never hitch hiked but he heard from an older male that it was a perfectly good way for getting around. It had never crossed his mind before someone suggested that he try it. I asked him if it sounded like a good idea to get into a vehicle with a complete stranger.

Oh that reminds me! As soon as they are learning to drive, you give the standard Mom lecture on "Never Pick-up a Hitchhiker". As always, repeat often. :moo:

 

[mck16]

I wonder what the road is like at night Durango to Bayfield and then Bayfield to Vallecito? I hate driving curvy mountain roads at night.

I have been told by a local that the road to Bayfield is around a mountain and takes a while to navigate. Described as not an easy drive. She also told me that the lake is not a good place to hang out as the people around are not too favorable. jmo