CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #37

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BBM

If Elaine and Cory could have gone on the show by themselves and gotten Dylan's face out to the millions of Dr Phil views why didn't they? Why are they waiting for Mark? Why the delay?

If people are going to criticize Mark for delaying the show, they also should criticize Elaine and Cory for doing the same thing. MOO.

I don't know if they could or couldn't. But if Dr. Phil did want MR on the show, I understand-it would not be a good idea to do the show without the last known person to have seen Dylan before Dylan went missing.
 
  • #122
Lighting another candle for Dylan.
Lighting a new candle for the dogs in their search.
 
  • #123
Excuse me. I believe Dylan's mother and that part of the family worked hard to get on the program so Dylan can get national attention.

By all means, if they want to talk about how they feel about their missing family member on national TV, they should do it. Why is there an expecatation that the dad should be part of that?
 
  • #124
Dr Phil did not seek out this family to exploit them.

IMO if Mark is innocent there is nothing to fear about going on the show. If he truly wants his child found and believes he is still alive (as he stated) I would think he would be chomping at the bit to do the show.
 
  • #125
By all means, if they want to talk about how they feel about their missing family member on national TV, they should do it. Why is there an expecatation that the dad should be part of that?

Isn't Dylan his son? He claims he loves him, and he claims that he believes Dylan to be alive. So why shouldn't he do the show?
 
  • #126
Dr Phil did not seek out this family to exploit them.

IMO if Mark is innocent there is nothing to fear about going on the show. If he truly wants his child found and believes he is still alive (as he stated) I would think he would be chomping at the bit to do the show.

He certainly claimed quite recently he believes Dylan to be alive.
 
  • #127
By all means, if they want to talk about how they feel about their missing family member on national TV, they should do it. Why is there an expecatation that the dad should be part of that?

Because if MR is NOT included he then can/does make an accusation in MSM that he is not invited, he is not included, he didn't know about it, etc. etc. etc. and then WS folks can point fingers back at ER/CR/MH by saying "Why wasn't the FATHER included.... but this is JUST MY OPINION
 
  • #128
I don't know if they could or couldn't. But if Dr. Phil did want MR on the show, I understand-it would not be a good idea to do the show without the last known person to have seen Dylan before Dylan went missing.

Is Phil McGraw interested in getting Dylan's story on TV, or is he interested in getting in the dad's face? If he wants to do the story, he should be able to accomplish that without dad. Phil isn't an investigator, so what can he add to the investigation? Isn't he a psychologist?
 
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I see it in a completely different light. I think that it is foolish to allow a personal tragedy to be used as Talking Head Entertainment. No talking head will ever solve a crime, and I've yet to see a talking head properly research a case such that the audience is left with a clear understanding of the facts.

Regarding the father, if he was going to stage the disappearance of his son, why wouldn't he at least stage the backpack at the house to prove that his son actually got there? Why would a father that is finally going to spend some time with his son make him vanish? Is there any factual reason for the father to want to make his son vanish from the face of the earth?
Bbm

Totally agree with you about the value of the show.

In the Father Did It set of theories, certainly the most talked about one on this forum has been based on what I've bolded in your post.

In the theory, MR, furious at that loss of control over his ex wife and son, intentionally killed Dylan to punish her. To support this, the father is described as cruel, controlling and manipulative and we reviewed several studies and cases over the weekend that use these terms to describe fathers that kill children in custody disputes. It happens A LOT.

Both ex wives, one of whom is an insider on this forum, believe this is possible. Dylan's older brother believes his father has done something. Two older half brothers have no relationship with their father at all, as he chose to extricate himself rather than pay child support.

And speaking of child support, the court allowed the mother to move Dylan to another city last fall, granting her full custody and control and removing the child support order that was in place - an order where the mother was paying child support to the father.

The father was the last person known to be with Dylan and his story of what happened does not make sense to some people. His interviews have been closely scrutinized and some people believe he is lying. I don't want to go into all the details here.

To continue the Father Did It theory, we would want to discuss how he murdered Dylan, when (Sunday night or Monday or possible later after holding him for a while) and where. No evidence has been presented to the media that anything happened at the house, in fact LE hadn't even told the public if Dylan made it to the house.
 
  • #131
There's a big difference between putting a missing child's picture on a milk carton and asking parents that have suffered a personal tragedy how they really feel about it.

And ... let's not forget that Phil McGraw has a history of editing footage for the purpose of twisting the facts (eg: Holloway case).

Why are you so convinced that Dr. Phil is going to ask the family, "How do you feel about Dylan's disappearance?"
 
  • #132
Isn't Dylan his son? He claims he loves him, and he claims that he believes Dylan to be alive. So why shouldn't he do the show?

I don't think I would have a little chat with a psychologist (that is known to manipulate information) on national TV about a missing family member. I think that's a crazy thing to do ... moreso since this is an open investigation.
 
  • #133
BBM

If Elaine and Cory could have gone on the show by themselves and gotten Dylan's face out to the millions of Dr Phil views why didn't they? Why are they waiting for Mark? Why the delay?

If people are going to criticize Mark for delaying the show, they also should criticize Elaine and Cory for doing the same thing. MOO.

Because Mark agreed to do the show before that airing. Elaine and Cory were going to do it, then Mark told the show he wanted to do it too so they decided to wait. They were willing to wait to accommodate Mark.
 
  • #134
Is Phil McGraw interested in getting Dylan's story on TV, or is he interested in getting in the dad's face? If he wants to do the story, he should be able to accomplish that without dad. Phil isn't an investigator, so what can he add to the investigation? Isn't he a psychologist?

I can't get into Dr. Phils mind, so I really don't know what he is interested in. The end result will be getting Dylan national attention.
Which, if one believes Dylan is alive, would be a good thing.
In order to find a missing child, national attention is very important.
Elizabeth Smart was found that way.
 
  • #135
To hurt Dylan's mom, who has moved on and made a better life for herself. IMO

Sending a big hug to you and your family! Sorry you are all going thru this. I hope Dylan comes home soon.
:hug:

PS: I've also been praying for Dylan's Grandmother (GrandMutti?!).
 
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Is Phil McGraw interested in getting Dylan's story on TV, or is he interested in getting in the dad's face? If he wants to do the story, he should be able to accomplish that without dad. Phil isn't an investigator, so what can he add to the investigation? Isn't he a psychologist?

Can you please provide a link where Dr Phil says he would not do the show without MR?
 
  • #138
Why are you so convinced that Dr. Phil is going to ask the family, "How do you feel about Dylan's disappearance?"

He's a psychologist ... that's his only area of expertise.
 
  • #139
I don't think I would have a little chat with a psychologist (that is known to manipulate information) on national TV about a missing family member. I think that's a crazy thing to do ... moreso since this is an open investigation.

Do you have links showing that Dr. Phil manipulates information? Or is that your personal opinion?
 
  • #140
I personally wish all scenarios could be left on the table. I don't want MR to be the sole focus to the point the possibility of a stranger abduction gets lost.

Yes, there have been reasons to be suspicious of MR, but there is no handbook on how to act when your child goes missing. In my opinion MR could be a self centered idiot, but it doesn't necessarily mean he would harm his son.

MR doesn't come across as the smartest person in the world. I don't see him being able to plan an abduction leaving no clues behind. It doesn't mean an argument didn't occur and something could have happened to Dylan. It also doesn't mean Dylan didn't take off to see his friends, from all accounts Dylan was excited and anxious to see them. More so than being with his dad. Kids are impatient. I don't want Dylan to get even more lost in the drama surrounding MR.
 
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