CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #37

[katydid23]

If his dad decided that it was too late to go for a sleepover, then so be it. If Dylan was a good, happy, well adjusted child, why would he have a problem doing what he was told?

If Dylan planned to get together with his friend at 6:30 am and his dad left around 7:30, then he may have been determined to meet with his friend. Why wouldn't he hitch hike rather than wait around until 11:30 when his dad was coming home?

Dylan was a well adjusted kid, but I am not sure we can say the same about his dad. There were plenty of other issues, some of which I listed already.

Dad said D was out like a light at 7:30. But he told D he was coming back at 11 and D understood that. So by the time he would be awake, finish his cereal and watch cartoons, what time would it be? Probably close to 11, imo.

Why wouldnt he communicate with anyone that morning before leaving? His friend had texted him twice that morning. And Dad said he called or texted that morning too. If he is wanting a ride, why not answer those calls?

 

[NC Analyzer]

Stranger abductions are rarer that parental murders. Approx 100 per year. The stats provided here aren't detail specific to Dylan's age/gender either. And stats don't exactly tell the story. The elements of the crime tell the story. And that varies crime to crime.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ultiple-tips-to-find-possible-witness-in-case

(The tipster told investigators they were approached that day by a man who asked where he could find gasoline for his vehicle. The man was described as Hispanic, between 45 and 50 years old, about 5 feet 10 inches tall, weighing about 170 pounds with dark hair.)

I just noticed the word 'They' from the above news article.

So it's either a typo or there was two people that interacted with the person Law Enforcemect is seeking to interview !!

I think this would be the proper wording. Especially when trying to avoid he/she.

 

[The Cheese]

If his dad decided that it was too late to go for a sleepover, then so be it. If Dylan was a good, happy, well adjusted child, why would he have a problem doing what he was told?

If Dylan planned to get together with his friend at 6:30 am and his dad left around 7:30, then he may have been determined to meet with his friend. Why wouldn't he hitch hike rather than wait around until 11:30 when his dad was coming home?

Another scenario for consideration is that Mark said in the uncut MB interview that Dylan liked to wander off to a nearby river and a nearby campground. It is possible that he did that, and a sexual predator saw an opportunity. Most abductors are known in some way to the child, and a significant number live nearby. (statistics in the document I linked earlier)

Mark Redwine:
Well, when I got home and he wasn’t here I didn’t think much of it at the time, because it’s not unlike him to go wandering off. He’ll walk down to the river across the street or you know he might go up into the campground where he can be next to the river up there.

 

[TxLady2]

I am not sure why he would care that much about animosity between mom and dad, considering they have been divorced for years, didn't live together, and didn't even live close to each other anymore. I don't think he would run away and sit in a snow for 3 months over animosity between mom and dad.

Do you think a child stops feeling anything just because his parents are divorced? I beg to differ. Most kids still like to think of their parents as family, especially younger kids. I doubt that Dylan lost all feelings for his dad, so it would naturally upset him to see the two of them arguing. What kid would sit there passively listening to the two people who created him arguing, without being affected by it? Good grief! Just because parents divorce doesn't mean the kids should have to take sides, and then choose which one to hate!

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Another scenario for consideration is that Mark said in the uncut MB interview that Dylan liked to wander off to a nearby river and a nearby campground. It is possible that he did that, and a sexual predator saw an opportunity. Most abductors are known in some way to the child, and a significant number live nearby. (statistics in the document I linked earlier)

Mark Redwine:
Well, when I got home and he wasn’t here I didn’t think much of it at the time, because it’s not unlike him to go wandering off. He’ll walk down to the river across the street or you know he might go up into the campground where he can be next to the river up there.

Why wasn't this the first place MR searched when he woke up from his nap?

 

[Seajay]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ultiple-tips-to-find-possible-witness-in-case

(The tipster told investigators they were approached that day by a man who asked where he could find gasoline for his vehicle. The man was described as Hispanic, between 45 and 50 years old, about 5 feet 10 inches tall, weighing about 170 pounds with dark hair.)

I just noticed the word 'They' from the above news article.

The word 'they' could have also been used to protect the gender of the tipster.

So it's either a typo or there was two people that interacted with the person Law Enforcemect is seeking to interview !!

Or the term was used to disguise whether the tipster was a man or a woman.

 

[jjenny]

Do you think a child stops feeling anything just because his parents are divorced? I beg to differ. Most kids still like to think of their parents as family, especially younger kids. I doubt that Dylan lost all feelings for his dad, so it would naturally upset him to see the two of them arguing. What kid would sit there passively listening to the two people who created him arguing, without being affected by it? Good grief! Just because parents divorce doesn't mean the kids should have to take sides, and then choose which one to hate!

Why would they be arguing? They weren't even living close to each other. Where was he going to sit listening to them arguing?

 

[Flutterflies]

15 highway miles shouldn't take more than 20-30 minutes and hitch hiking is a quick, easy, convenient ride.

Information he received from the boy's friends suggests that Dylan was hitchhiking when he disappeared, Redwine said.
"It sounds to me like he's not even in the area," he said.
He said he is concerned that a stranger could have picked up the teen and abducted him.

Read more:Search for missing 13-year-old continues in La Plata County - The Denver Posthttp://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22063185/sunday-search-launched-missing-boy-laplata-county#ixzz2LIdRmr2k
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His childhood friends from Bayfield, which is just over 20 miles from the area where Dylan's father lives, suggested an alternative theory that police are also looking into. They believe that Dylan may have tried hitchhiking to go see them in his old hometown, during which he was abducted.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nged-fathers-Colorado-home.html#ixzz2LIjtRYRX
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The boys said Dylan wasn’t shy about hitching rides.

“Honestly, I think he was walking into Bayfield and got taken away,” he said.

Wesley agreed.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121124/NEWS01/121129756/-1/s


Similarly, while some of Dylan's Bayfield friends suggested he might hitchhike down from Vallecito to Bayfield for a scheduled visit with them, Elaine Redwine said she and Dylan had talked about being safe, including not hitchhiking.

“It would be uncharacteristic of Dylan to do that,” she said.

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...APW/Family-keeps-faith-through-adverse-time--


One time during a snowstorm, Dylan was the one to stick out his thumb and hitch the boys a ride home from the library.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121215/NEWS01/121219687/A-boy’s-life--

 

[katydid23]

And, to me what is very telling is that when Dylan's friends were ASKED about Dylan, they are quoted as saying that maybe he hitchhiked and got taken away. That came from their mouths, his friends, the ones who knew him best.

But like I said previously, when my friends daughter ran away, we went and talked to all of her friends. They gave us some scenarios that were way off from what actually happened. And these were her friends that knew her best.

Two of her closest friends were convinced the missing girl had od'ed on heroin. Turns out she never used any hard drugs, but her friends did not know she had been on anti anxiety meds, and they misinterpreted her behavior when she played beer pong with them.

So kids are KIDS, and they are not always the best at making rational assumptions.

 

[katydid23]

Another scenario for consideration is that Mark said in the uncut MB interview that Dylan liked to wander off to a nearby river and a nearby campground. It is possible that he did that, and a sexual predator saw an opportunity. Most abductors are known in some way to the child, and a significant number live nearby. (statistics in the document I linked earlier)

Mark Redwine:
Well, when I got home and he wasn’t here I didn’t think much of it at the time, because it’s not unlike him to go wandering off. He’ll walk down to the river across the street or you know he might go up into the campground where he can be next to the river up there.

If he was just wandering off for a walk, why would he take all of his belongings?

 

[Lordeebee]

Stranger abductions are rarer that parental murders. Approx 100 per year. The stats provided here aren't detail specific to Dylan's age/gender either. And stats don't exactly tell the story. The elements of the crime tell the story. And that varies crime to crime.

Yes, AND I was shocked at the recent data posted of parents that murder their children for revenge against the parent who gets primary custody. And even more specifically, children who are murdered during court ordered visitation. The custody awarded to ER was no more than 2 months before Dylan went missing.

 

[otto]

And, to me what is very telling is that when Dylan's friends were ASKED about Dylan, they are quoted as saying that maybe he hitchhiked and got taken away. That came from their mouths, his friends, the ones who knew him best.

If the friends are saying that he may have hitch hiked ... they wouldn't have pulled that out of thin air. From what I've read, it seems that hitch hiking was an alternative mode of transportation for Dylan.

Another thing to keep in mind is that parents have been known to sometimes whitewash their missing chidlren. The child that hitch hiked and was rebellious suddenly becomes a church going angel.

 

[scorekeeper]

If a suspect is not available ... because it is a stranger abduction ... then one of the parents is usually dragged through the mud.

In this case, if the father is responsible, there are three possibilities: murder, Dylan is held against will, Dylan voluntarily disappeared. The last two don't seem possible, so it must be that the father murdered his son ... so why would he murder his son? That doesn't make any sense either.

Sure the divorce was acrimonious and maybe the father was controlling (that's usually a sign of an insecure person), but that doesn't make him a murderer.

BBM

If this is so, then LE/FBI have not done their jobs in warning the public or asking the public for information (ie, strange behavior, unusual behavior, not showing up for work, gone extended period of time, washing vehicle, special interest in news on the case, etc...).

 

[katydid23]

BBM: Exactly!!! He can be a jerk, he can be insecure, he can be jealous. I've known a lot of people like that, but that does not make them murderers.

It does not make him a murderer. But a jealous, insecure jerk would be more likely to argue with his son about those issues which make him feel jealous and insecure, imo. And that could lead to an involuntary manslaughter incident, imo.

 

[cluciano63]

I doubt Dylan had to be in the presence of both parents very often, if ever.

 

[Lordeebee]

Another scenario for consideration is that Mark said in the uncut MB interview that Dylan liked to wander off to a nearby river and a nearby campground. It is possible that he did that, and a sexual predator saw an opportunity. Most abductors are known in some way to the child, and a significant number live nearby. (statistics in the document I linked earlier)

Mark Redwine:
Well, when I got home and he wasn’t here I didn’t think much of it at the time, because it’s not unlike him to go wandering off. He’ll walk down to the river across the street or you know he might go up into the campground where he can be next to the river up there.

Why would Dylan take everything he brought with him to wander over to the campground?

 

[ColdHands]

I'm actually more inclined to believe it was someone Dylan (and his parents) knew who came to the house and agreed to give him a ride to Bayfield. I personally find that much more likely than a father murdering the only son he's been said to be close to. Being picked up by the wrong person while hitchhiking would probably be my choice for second most likely. Obviously, not everybody agrees with me. MOO

I agree.

 

[otto]

otto, I've always felt this was not intentional murder. I think perhaps an argument happened over the not being able to go to the friends and perhaps the Dad smacked Dylan and Dylan fought back and it got out of hand. Something like this....Mom stated that she was afraid of what Dad might do if Dylan made him mad. Mom also stated that she thinks Dad may have underestimated Dylan.

More recently I have noticed (in interviews) just how jealous and obsessed Dad still is with Mom and this gave my pause. Other's have speculated that he did it to punish Mom and maybe it was even premeditated and I thought this was a little far fetched. But when I saw his interviews well let me say I was chilled. I still don't want to believe this is possible.

Was Dylan normally a rebellious child that fought with authority, or was he a well adjusted happy child that accepted parental decisions? Was he supposedly only rebellious around his father and, if so, what made him think that he didn't have to respect his father's rules?

 

[cluciano63]

As far as what his friends would say...teen boys are probably more likely to jump to the goriest and most exciting conclusions, if asked. Kidnapped, abducted, hitching, all those scary things they are warned about their entire lives. It does not hold weight with me.