CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #37

[Deleted member 39678]

The Father never had an appointment, The Father said he wanted to get up at 6:30 am so he could be at the company office at or around 7:30 am to settle a payroll issue. It was never an appointment.

He had an appointment later that morning to see his Divorce Attorney concerning unknow discussions. Days prior Dylan's Mother was granted Full custody.

The text messages the prior night between Dylan and Ryan discuss Dylan arriving at Ryan's Grandmas house at 6:30 am. The Father would have needed to awaken around 5:30 am to get ready, then drive Dylan to be dropped off at Ryan's Grandmas house. So this would appear to be another contradiction concerning timelines.

BBM
Do we know what time Mark's appointment with his lawyer was? Maybe that's why he finally left at 7:30 so he could make that meeting.

 

[The Cheese]

The reporter paraphrased police in that article. All the direct quotes that I've seen from LE use language such as "We are not calling Mark Redwine a suspect." That is far far different than saying he's not a suspect.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/investigators-search-home-missing-colo-boys-father/story?id=17840755

If someone has a direct quote from LE saying MR isn't a suspect, I'd love to see it!

Authorities executed a search warrant last week at the house of Mark Redwine, the father of Dylan, but the father is not considered a suspect, said Capt. Jim Ezzell, chief investigator with the La Plata County Sheriff’s Office.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121203/NEWS01/121209881/-1/s

 

[tamild]

Not to change the subject, but I, like most of us here, have been going nuts trying to figure out what could've happened to this kid.

For those who think MR is involved, do you allow for a theory in which Dylan made it to the house that night? Is it possible that they really did go home and watch a movie, but Dylan actually DID get up on time that morning, ate a bowl of cereal, and left the house with his father?

 

[SCHMAE]

http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/ar...-ongoing-parents-appear-on-dr-phil-this-week/

I think this is a news link-not sure.

It claims the Dr. Phil show airs tomorrow, which can't be right, IMO.

What ? I thought they were in studio filming tomorrow ? OH boy !

 

[Deleted member 39678]

MR is the one who honed in on the fishing pole the first day. He even later criticized LE for not checking the lake earlier since they knew from day one the pole was missing. A fishing pole wouldn't just disappear on it's own. If MR loaned it out, he would know. A burglar is unlikely to rob a residence and only take one fishing rod. All MOO

Maybe it got left behind the last time it was used and he didn't notice or maybe he left it in back of his truck and someone took it. MOO.

 

[asyousay]

MR is the one who honed in on the fishing pole the first day. He even later criticized LE for not checking the lake earlier since they knew from day one the pole was missing. A fishing pole wouldn't just disappear on it's own. If MR loaned it out, he would know. A burglar is unlikely to rob a residence and only take one fishing rod. All MOO

I am still in two minds if this is a red herring to send LE in completely the wrong direction or if Dylan will be found in the lake lease:

 

[Ronald99]

http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/ar...-ongoing-parents-appear-on-dr-phil-this-week/

I think this is a news link-not sure.

It claims the Dr. Phil,shows airs tomorrow, which can't be right, IMO.

From the latest news stories, The family is suppose to appear Tomorrow February 20th. The actuall air time has not been released as of yet, Hopefully next week the Show will air.

 

[Ghostwheel]

I have two teens and they are POLAR opposites on sleep so I would not begin to guess how Dylan was. One of mine can go on a few hrs a night for days on end, but it does catch up to him and he drops for a super long sleep at some point. My other would sleep 14 hrs a day if no one stopped her from it !

It is the younger one who is a sleepaholic if that matters.

I don't think it matters, mine are the opposite. Older one passes out at 9:00, younger one only needs 6 hours a night. Always. Kids are just different, so you can't really assume anything about sleep patterns.

 

[ColdHands]

IMO, the stats in this report are referring to children who are abducted then murdered. The stats are different for children who are murdered by a parent, significant other or other type of caregiver. These familial crimes are murder from the get go and never an abduction. So a study on abductions doesn't apply here, JMO. Legal custody or others living with are the majority percentage who kill children...period. They usually have legal custody of the child, or living with that person. The easiest, and almost only way for them to explain away a childs absence is to report a child and missing and hope to god LE runs with the runaway or abduction theory. The department of justice has many stats that show who is likely to murder who. And it's still family or close to family.

I agree that filicide is a horrible horrible problem in our country that seems to be growing but I am not highlighting stats here to discuss that.

Those stats are for cases that start with a missing persons report filed with LE. These stats do address parental abduction/custody murders if they started with a missing persons report.

These stats do not address all filicide cases. they focus on a very specific subset as reported by LE across the country. These all start the way LE sees Dylan's case - a missing child with a possibility of abduction. Read the criteria for the cases presented and you will see that Dylan's case fits into this study.

 

[The Cheese]

Absolutely. Overwhelming evidence and prisons full of parents who have murdered their children. But then, who am I...I don't know anything. :blushing:

If you have any paternal filicide statistics for the U.S. other than the ones I posted (again, not those referenced in your quote, which I posted to reference body disposal and a quote from the document, not filicide statistics), I would appreciate it if you'd share them. It's very difficult to find info on paternal filicide since it's so rare.

 

[findDylan]

http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/ar...-ongoing-parents-appear-on-dr-phil-this-week/

I think this is a news link-not sure.

It claims the Dr. Phil show airs tomorrow, which can't be right, IMO.

It is a news link. It's an online, small town, news link. I think they "misspoke" and it should have been taped not broadcasted.

The taping is supposed to happen tomorrow or thursday if everything goes right.

 

[NC Analyzer]

LE often says not "considered" a suspect or not "named" a suspect. More often than not, they never actually name a suspect. Means nothing. Irrelevant. Nada, zip, zilch, zippo. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt to prove it.

 

[cluciano63]

Not to change the subject, but I, like most of us here, have been going nuts trying to figure out what could've happened to this kid.

For those who think MR is involved, do you allow for a theory in which Dylan made it to the house that night? Is it possible that they really did go home and watch a movie, but Dylan actually DID get up on time that morning, ate a bowl of cereal, and left the house with his father?

I have not "decided" that MR is involved, I am simply waiting for even one thing he said happened from the they got home until MR was alibied in town to be verified. Or for LE to come and say plainly that Dylan was at the house. But even that does not mean that something did not happen between 10pm and 7am.

It is over twenty hours from when Dylan texted R, and when he was reported missing. And it appears that nothing much can be proved during that time period, other than the few hours MR was seen in town.

 

[Confusion]

But you go LOOK for that child you dont take a nap!

In hindsight, I'm sure he wishes he would have. Not that it would be likely to have made any difference. MOO

 

[TxJan1971]

Lt. Shupe says they are not ruling Dylan's father out as a person of interest nor are they calling him a person of interest at this point.

http://www.9news.com/news/article/301687/339/Teams-end-search-for-missing-13-year-old-boy

I'm looking to try and find a similar LE statement for ER, etc.

 

[Ronald99]

I am still in two minds if this is a red herring to send LE in completely the wrong direction or if Dylan will be found in the lake lease:

It seemed odd with all going on he notices the Fishing Pole missing, IMO it appears he's intentionally injected this, and I'm worried that Dylan will be recovered in or near a body of water.

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[The Cheese]

BBM.. How did MR know where to find R? He wasn't at his grandmas, where Dylan was going to go. R was else where in town. A place that R didn't go to until 10:30 ( I think the time is right). R sent a text to Dylan that is where they were at, but Dylan's cell wasn't working by then so he didn't get the text.

I figured MR knew R was at his gma's, but that MR didn't know gma's address, so he went to another friend's house, Nando's, to start trying to track Dylan down.

 

[asyousay]

LE often says not "considered" a suspect or not "named" a suspect. More often than not, they never actually name a suspect. Means nothing. Irrelevant. Nada, zip, zilch, zippo. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt to prove it.

Exactly ... i dont think we have one named suspect in this case so it means zero !!


MOO

 

[The Cheese]

I'm leaving my house in a few and did not have time to find the DOJ reports. So I was going to link WS for reference. Then I thought I better not because it would come across as too snarky. Seriously though, all one has to do is read WS for any amount of time, and you quickly see a pattern of who kills who and why they did it. No studies or stats needed.

Oh please link the DOJ stats you have on paternal filicide! I would really appreciate it! Thanks!

 

[deoneta]

BBM
Do we know what time Mark's appointment with his lawyer was? Maybe that's why he finally left at 7:30 so he could make that meeting.

In the uncut interview, he said he wanted to get to the office as soon as they opened before payroll went out.