CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #38

[asyousay]

If his story has holes, then it's up to LE to carry on. They haven't.

I'm the last person making this tit for tat. I don't give a rat's if he's guilty or not, but until LE points that way, I'll stay on my fence of justice rather than swing towards <modsnip>. Besides, ER said he could harm Dylan, then no, he wouldn't harm Dylan, and now is it back to him harming Dylan? I can't keep up.

What do mean for LE to carry on , in the Dr Phil clip it states that Mark is still a point of interest . Unless I misheard ?!

 

[Seajay]

Mark sent Elaine a TEXT message to let her know that Dylan had disappeared. That right there speaks volumes to me as to what type of man he really is.

Not exactly. He sent a text message asking her if she'd heard from Dylan.

He went out looking for Dylan at the places he thought he'd be but he wasn't so after talking to R and F, he decided to get in touch with Elaine to find out if she'd heard from him. It was then, when he found out she hadn't hard from him either that he decided to go to the Marshall's Office, while Elaine called the Sheriff's Office.

Until he text her, he didn't know that Dylan was missing missing, just that he didn't know where he was. IMO, JMO.

 

[Seajay]

I don't see where the hitchhiking thing is an unreasonable thought considering no matter what circumstances it was under, he HAD hitchhiked before. Given the situation where that was his only option to get from point A to point B, I can see him doing it again. He did show it was something he had thought about and done in the past. IMO

 

[mijamawi]

What do mean for LE to carry on , in the Dr Phil clip it states that Mark is still a point of interest . Unless I misheard ?!

I mean if LE found holes in MR's story, they would possibly point those out, investigating him. As of now, we've nothing from LE saying who they are focusing on. Just FYI, no one has been cleared.

As far as what Dr. Phil says, please, he's not the second coming. Good gravy, he's a freaking talk show host. Delusions of him solving this are making me feel really sad for a lot of people. If there was some earth shattering news from the DR show, then I would assume we'd have heard of it. They aren't going to wait a week to air if they got something substantial from the show. MOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[NC Analyzer]

MR could not rise above a frantic mother's panic and behave like a man, for the sake of his son, or just for personal dignity. No. He had to say, fairly early on, that his "problem" was his ex-wife.

As a parent, he should understand the overwhelming terror that comes from anything to do with your child being in danger. And he was responsible for Dylan when this horror took place. That in itself earns him the unfortunate honor of having to suck it up and take it. Maybe if he had behaved in a more mature manner from the start toward ER, she would have felt calmer and less inclined to mistrust him. I still can't imagine how heart-stopping it must have been to read on a text that he had "lost track" of her youngest child.

He could be as innocent as me, in all of this, but he has behaved like an a** to a woman in despair, a terrified mother. She should be allowed to scream and rage at him, IMO. I do not know many real men who would not shut up and take it.

Sometimes when there is a sudden death in a family, people say some horrible things to each other, but most compassionate people take the circumstances into consideration.

JMO

Absolutely. And not only about "his problem was his ex-wife(??)" but initially he expressed surprise about why she was making so much of this. Really? Your child is missing and you wonder why his mother is "making so much of this?" And the obsession concern comes in not only when a reporter asks him a question, but whenever he can take a jab at her. The example that comes to mind is where she works and how she didn't want him to know...and then he announces to everyone where she works. How was that relevant to his missing child? IMO, that was specifically stated to throw it in her face and let her know that he had that information. Control. Intimidation. Cruelty. None of it related to his missing son.

 

[dlc]

You need to link up the bolded statement please. IIRC, MR made himself available to LE, he opened his house for a "consent" search, he himself did some searching and he answered LE's questions. Please point us to the info that you have that says otherwise.

Thanks,

Salem

Dear Salem,

Not quite sure what I should be supplying, but as to the Marc Klaas reference:

Quote from CNN.com transcripts of Nancy Grace show:

MARC KLAAS, KLAAS KIDS FOUNDATION: Well, I think that Mr. Redwine has to put aside any differences that he has and absolutely cooperate, first of all, with his ex-wife. Parents who are in this situation come together all the time to look for their missing kid, cooperate with law enforcement, and explain how he can have a child who just got there and not have any contact with him for almost an entire day.


Regarding MR's other activities in support of the search for his missing son, he allowed LE to do a cursory search of his house, and then did not fight them (which would have been difficult) when they came back with a warrant for a more extensive search. By his own admission, his polygraph was inconclusive, and I have not read anywhere of him trying to schedule another one to help remove remaining doubts and remove himself from consideration. His MSM interviews have been exhaustively dissected, and found to be contradictory at best (IMO). He did participate (by showing up, not by organizing it) in one search, he also made it to the vigil, albeit late. Other than that, it seems to me (again, JMO) that ER, CR, their friends and family, together with strangers, people who have no connection to DR whatsoever, have done the hard work of fundraising, publicizing, organizing, knocking on doors, getting media attention and on and on, while MR still has not/cannot explain, in Marc Klaas's words, "how he can have a child who just got there and not have any contact with him for almost an entire day."

JMO

Thanks for considering it.

 

[asyousay]

I mean if LE found holes in MR's story, they would possibly point those out, investigating him. As of now, we've nothing from LE saying who they are focusing on. Just FYI, no one has been cleared.

As far as what Dr. Phil says, please, he's not the second coming. Good gravy, he's a freaking talk show host. Delusions of him solving this are making me feel really sad for a lot of people. If there was some earth shattering news from the DR show, then I would assume we'd have heard of it. They aren't going to wait a week to air if they got something substantial from the show. MOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Like anything I would of thought it came down to proof , no ?

So if I did something and then lied about it . It then up to LE to prove it . So they can be suspicious of me but unless they find proof then they can not do anything about it . MOO


And I have no idea what Dr Phil will find as I am English and have never watched a episode in my life . All i said was that from that clip Mark has not been cleared and is part of the on going investigation . MOO

 

[asyousay]

I don't see where the hitchhiking thing is an unreasonable thought considering no matter what circumstances it was under, he HAD hitchhiked before. Given the situation where that was his only option to get from point A to point B, I can see him doing it again. He did show it was something he had thought about and done in the past. IMO

That is not accurate as Dylan had a ride at 11am . This was not his only option at all as all he had to do was wait awhile for Mark to come back .

 

[cluciano63]

I do not believe that LE has been able to confirm one single thing MR has said that was not on video, except that he went to town on Monday.

 

[mmmagique]

I'm pretty sure Dr. Phil isn't considered anything. Is reality not supposed to be real? :waitasec:

Of course he's considered something. He has the number one rated talk show in America. Hence, his show is a talk show.

 

[Salem]

Dear Salem,

Not quite sure what I should be supplying, but as to the Marc Klaas reference:

Quote from CNN.com transcripts of Nancy Grace show:

MARC KLAAS, KLAAS KIDS FOUNDATION: Well, I think that Mr. Redwine has to put aside any differences that he has and absolutely cooperate, first of all, with his ex-wife. Parents who are in this situation come together all the time to look for their missing kid, cooperate with law enforcement, and explain how he can have a child who just got there and not have any contact with him for almost an entire day.


Regarding MR's other activities in support of the search for his missing son, he allowed LE to do a cursory search of his house, and then did not fight them (which would have been difficult) when they came back with a warrant for a more extensive search. By his own admission, his polygraph was inconclusive, and I have not read anywhere of him trying to schedule another one to help remove remaining doubts and remove himself from consideration. His MSM interviews have been exhaustively dissected, and found to be contradictory at best (IMO). He did participate (by showing up, not by organizing it) in one search, he also made it to the vigil, albeit late. Other than that, it seems to me (again, JMO) that ER, CR, their friends and family, together with strangers, people who have no connection to DR whatsoever, have done the hard work of fundraising, publicizing, organizing, knocking on doors, getting media attention and on and on, while MR still has not/cannot explain, in Marc Klaas's words, "how he can have a child who just got there and not have any contact with him for almost an entire day."

JMO

Thanks for considering it.

Your points are well taken, however I am removing the portion of the prior post where you stated, as fact, that MR did not cooperate because so far, that has not been proven by either LE or MSM.

I am not questioning your interpretation of the information, just questioning the way it is posted. We can't state facts without linking them.

Thanks dlc!

Salem

 

[Ronald99]

I mean if LE found holes in MR's story, they would possibly point those out, investigating him. As of now, we've nothing from LE saying who they are focusing on. Just FYI, no one has been cleared.

As far as what Dr. Phil says, please, he's not the second coming. Good gravy, he's a freaking talk show host. Delusions of him solving this are making me feel really sad for a lot of people. If there was some earth shattering news from the DR show, then I would assume we'd have heard of it. They aren't going to wait a week to air if they got something substantial from the show. MOOOOOOOOOOOOO

There's not going to be much if any news released concerning Dylan due to the FBI involment, It's very likely a grand jury could or will be the deciding factor in bringing justice to this case.

 

[Seajay]

I mean if LE found holes in MR's story, they would possibly point those out, investigating him. As of now, we've nothing from LE saying who they are focusing on. Just FYI, no one has been cleared.

As far as what Dr. Phil says, please, he's not the second coming. Good gravy, he's a freaking talk show host. Delusions of him solving this are making me feel really sad for a lot of people. If there was some earth shattering news from the DR show, then I would assume we'd have heard of it. They aren't going to wait a week to air if they got something substantial from the show. MOOOOOOOOOOOOO

BBM: We are still there, huh? After 3 months, hours of interviews, and investigation, LE still isn't talking and they haven't named MR a POI or a suspect yet. They haven't arrested him either.

It all comes down to what LE has. What they found in the searches, the dogs indicating where and on what, fingerprints, DNA, whatever. They have not told us anything so it's still all up in the air.

Guess now they are still waiting on that newest lead. Seems like they got it from more than one source so they are taking it seriously. Until they can find this guy, I guess the case is still stuck. IMO

 

[Seajay]

There's not going to be much if any news released concerning Dylan due to the FBI involment, It's very likely a grand jury could or will be the deciding factor in bringing justice to this case.

Do you know when the Grand Jury for that area will be meeting??

 

[Ronald99]

Can you link that up for me please? I haven't seen that the football was thrown around the yard or that the dogs didn't find a scent in the yard. As far as we know, or at least as far as I know, the dogs never even searched around MR's house. Now I know that is hardly believeable, but we have nothing, that I know of, from either MSM or LE telling us differently.

Salem

If not mistaken the father stated they passed the football around prior to watching a movie.

It was talked About very early on about passing a nerf football and the discussion included members wondering if they did it in the house or out side.

All the sudden it's like it never happened ?

 

[SmoothOperator]

I don't see where the hitchhiking thing is an unreasonable thought considering no matter what circumstances it was under, he HAD hitchhiked before. Given the situation where that was his only option to get from point A to point B, I can see him doing it again. He did show it was something he had thought about and done in the past. IMO

IMO ABOVE BBM IS NOT ACCURATE.. hitchhiking was not HIS ONLY OPTION and its why so many believe its significant and telling that he didn't attempt ANY OF THOSE MORE LIKELY OPTIONS.. such as calling or texting his friends about a ride..calling mom to have her call one of her local friends to come give him a ride(as she stated in interview)...or simply have dad take him when he returned from errands...

HITCHHIKING WAS FAR FROM BEING HIS ONLY OPTION.jmo

 

[Seajay]

I agree, and am not understanding the frequent references to his "obsession" with ER (nor the oft repeated "lashing out" either). My take is that whenever any reference is made to his ex, it's in order to answer a question from a reporter. And how can he be accused of ignoring her and being obsessed with her at the same time? MOO, and everything we read or hear is open to our own interpretation. That's why we have conflicting opinions here, even though we are all getting the same information

True, hadn't thought about that. Either he's obsessed with her and all over her or he's ignoring her and not returning phone calls or texts. Doesn't sound like he's too obsessed with her if he won't talk to her. Where did the obession claim come from anyway??? I never saw anything in MSM by either Elaine or Mark where it was established that he's obsessed with her or jealous of her either. :waitasec:

 

[Salem]

It was talked About very early on about passing a nerf football and the discussion included members wondering if they did it in the house or out side.

All the sudden it's like it never happened ?

Oh no - I know about the football. But your post indicated it was done outside and I don't think that has been confirmed. Also, you said the dogs did not find scent and I know that has not been confirmed.

No worries Ronald - I snipped the post and took out the unconfirmed factual statements.

And.... as an aside - I agree it would have been interesting to have the dogs track back from WalMart. I wonder if they still could do that at this late date?

Salem

 

[asyousay]

True, hadn't thought about that. Either he's obsessed with her and all over her or he's ignoring her and not returning phone calls or texts. Doesn't sound like he's too obsessed with her if he won't talk to her. Where did the obession claim come from anyway??? I never saw anything in MSM by either Elaine or Mark where it was established that he's obsessed with her or jealous of her either. :waitasec:

"My problem is his ex wife" . I have seen that said by Mark. He bangs on about how he knows where his wife works and its not a big secret " why the need to even bring this up ?) - its not relivent to finding Dylan !


Just two times off the top of my head !

 

[Ronald99]

Oh no - I know about the football. But your post indicated it was done outside and I don't think that has been confirmed. Also, you said the dogs did not find scent and I know that has not been confirmed.

No worries Ronald - I snipped the post and took out the unconfirmed factual statements.

And.... as an aside - I agree it would have been interesting to have the dogs track back from WalMart. I wonder if they still could do that at this late date?

Salem

I looked back at older stories, Law Enforcement never released the scent results,

It's all good on the snipping, your just doing your job.