CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #40

[Eileen730]

I do think If dylan is in that lake it was anger that put him there.
I dont think it was premeditated.
alcohol could have been involved
Something got out of hand and now being covered up.

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

If you look at United Pipeline's website, you can search for employment opportunities. It shows where their offices are located. They are scattered throughout the country.

If someone works out of town say for a week or longer at a construction sight, when they returned to town, they would have to turn in their paperwork to get reimbursed for expenses. The office wouldn't open until Monday morning to do so. So, it only makes sense that he would want to get this done and out of the way that day. I know this, from being married to and having friends that have similar careers.

It could also be speculated that he had to provide his attorney with paperwork concerning his income.

When a person works out of town for weeks at a time, your time is limited on when you can take care of everyday business. People that don't have to work, or have jobs where they return home everyday, don't have this challenge of having to take care of business in a very short time slot.

I find nothing unusual, or bad about MR wanting to get these things done and out of the way so he could spend time with Dylan. In fact he may have had to do these things that Monday morning. This is not one of the different things that have been discussed that raise my hinky meter about MR.

Why make 2 trips?
Why not wait for D to get up and then off ya go?

Makes no sense at all.

 

[SCHMAE]

Why make 2 trips?
Why not wait for D to get up and then off ya go?

Makes no sense at all.

OHHHHHHHHHH ! Come on Eileen !~
You made a good point that I have not thought about.
If it's so far to get around, which everyone agrees it is
and I believe MR even said something about these far
trips and getting all things done at once when you go out
to do any errands, then why on Monday morning is he willing
to voluntarily make TWO TRIPS to town instead of just wake
up Dylan for sure and make him ride along? WOW....... a very
very very very interesting point to ponder ! MR did not want to
go out of his way on sunday night and they made these plans monday
morning to eliminate extra trips. So why did MR hop up and just say
oh well no biggie I'll just make an extra trip which will take an extra
hour , instead of FORCE Dylan to wake up and come with me ?
Big thinking !

 

[azgrandma]

Ok sleuthers HELP!
MR does or DID work for united pipe? They said some weeks back they would ' match' a certain amount of the dylan fund for the reward. Remember? At that time I thought oh wow, they must really believe in MR ! So I wonder three things A ) does he still work for them B ) does the offer still stand or did they already donate to the fund after ( i think it was his bday and they said all money raised tonight,we will match dollar for dollar) C ) does United pipe run routes INTO TEXAS? MR said on dr phil show that on dylans bday he could not be there because he was in TEXAS for the ' company i work for' ( he did not say united pipe) and could not get back in time. So if united pipe does not run to texas, then he's not working there now, correct?

part two.

I made dh watch dr phil with eye rolls and groans ! But now he's got his thinking cap on and brought up 2 good points. Well first he's totally sure MR's the perp here . He wonders if looking at MR's 'run logs' of where his truck had been going the weeks leading up TO DR"s disappearance might be useful. Was MR anywhere particular like a specific great hiding location ? Maybe some out of the way l ocation he had to take 10 loads to over oct and nov and the area is isolated or has mines/ old houses/ deep quarries, etc. Also he wonders if MR has recently or EVER hauled or worked with any type of industrial chemicals..... acids Good questions I think. Many truck drivers have hauled hazmats so its possible MR knows where or has access to these chemicals in some way.
So I'm a touch proud of dh... because I've yet to see these 2 questions asked ! Don't know how or if we can get the answers, but points to ponder !

BBM - IIRC United Pipeline was going to match the United Blood Services donations, I think it was $5 for each pint of blood donated. (wish I could donate because I'd give it all) They are the only ones that I know of that said they would match. On DP - CR was mentioning that MR has not contributed anything towards the reward fund. MR retorted back that his employer was donating. I can only assume (do not like that word) that he does work for United. MOO
There is a route in TX that MR has been on. FWIW

 

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[Psychic Sleuth]

Does anyone know exactly where on the lake the dogs were hitting? I have read the east side of the lake but where exactly? I believe there is a body in that lake and sadly I think it is Dylan. I know it's a challenge for divers to get in there but there must be a way. When does the lake typically thaw? We're now at March 1st so spring is coming up quickly.

 

[Eileen730]

OHHHHHHHHHH ! Come on Eileen !~
You made a good point that I have not thought about.
If it's so far to get around, which everyone agrees it is
and I believe MR even said something about these far
trips and getting all things done at once when you go out
to do any errands, then why on Monday morning is he willing
to voluntarily make TWO TRIPS to town instead of just wake
up Dylan for sure and make him ride along? WOW....... a very
very very very interesting point to ponder ! MR did not want to
go out of his way on sunday night and they made these plans monday
morning to eliminate extra trips. So why did MR hop up and just say
oh well no biggie I'll just make an extra trip which will take an extra
hour , instead of FORCE Dylan to wake up and come with me ?
Big thinking !

If Dylan was there he would have waited for him!
IMO Dylan was not there.

 

[YidArmyRach]

Why wait outside?

He gets all his belongings and waits outside?

Sorry I dont see it.
And if he was sitting there waiting outside he would be texting!
that id bet my life on!

Like i have said numerous times I do not Believe Dylan was ever in that house ...

But JMO

If you think he was waiting outside eager to get to his friends house Id think you would believe he would have gotten up early and gone with his father.

jmo

I can give MR no free pass till he starts acting like a concerned father!
so far he has NOT!

But I don't believe that! I've had plenty experience of my sons making plans to do things very early, setting alarms to get up early, arranging with me to give them lifts early ................ yet next morning, they roll over and go back to sleep. When they are comfy in bed and don't actually HAVE to get up early, the desire to stick to what they've planned diminishes somewhat!

Also, my life is very busy, so if they are wanting lifts in between me doing chores, I'll say to them "you can have a lift, but only if you are ready to go the very minute I get home" and they will wait outside for me, if the time has been set.

I'm not saying all kids are alike and all kids would behave like this - but the scenarios involving Dylan sleeping in, going off for a wander whilst waiting for MR to return, and even waiting outside for a lift are all things which ring very true to me.

To balance the argument out - I am still struggling with the circumstantial "evidence" which does suggest that Dylan may have "ceased to exist" with regards to mobile phone evidence, and the lack of sightings after Walmart on the Sunday night. But then again, just because someone isn't seen or heard from, doesn't necessarily mean that person isn't still there.

Its awful to think that the "best" scenario might be the one where he met an accident in the lake, as no one wants to think a kid died at the hands of a parent or an RSO. I like to hang onto Seejay's optimism, that he's being hidden somewhere, however unlikely that seems.

 

[Eileen730]

BBM - IIRC United Pipeline was going to match the United Blood Services donations, I think it was $5 for each pint of blood donated. (wish I could donate because I'd give it all) They are the only ones that I know of that said they would match. On DP - CR was mentioning that MR has not contributed anything towards the reward fund. MR retorted back that his employer was donating. I can only assume (do not like that word) that he does work for United. MOO
There is a route in TX that MR has been on. FWIW

Even Elaine said "I think he drives trucks"!

Does anyone know what he does mabe the GF?

 

[Ronald99]

Really? How do you know that? We're all just guessing here. I don't think any of us can state, factually like that, what Dylan did or didn't do. We can surmise, thats all.

FWIW, I don't find it unbelievable that a kid waiting for a lift would wait outside, so he's ready to go the minute the car turns up.

Yea and with a landline at the house Dylan would've been calling, Dad where you at _ how much longer dad _ dad you here yet, dad I'm outside waiting !

Plus Dylan would've been calling his Friends or Reaching out to someone, This is a young teenager that was glued to that cell phone, ( That for some unknown Reason all cell phone activity ceased the night before )
if I'm not to far mistaken the majority of people on this Forum posting never was 13 years old with the excitement of Being able to have a device / cell phone to instantly call text your friends.

Just because MR said 11:30 he'd be back doesn't mean 11:30, I'm sure he's Disapointed people on times he would arrive.

And all the above is quite a far stretch considering, I don't believe Dylan was at the house or sleeping at 7:30 am Monday Morning November 19 2012 !!

 

[SCHMAE]

BBM - IIRC United Pipeline was going to match the United Blood Services donations, I think it was $5 for each pint of blood donated. (wish I could donate because I'd give it all) They are the only ones that I know of that said they would match. On DP - CR was mentioning that MR has not contributed anything towards the reward fund. MR retorted back that his employer was donating. I can only assume (do not like that word) that he does work for United. MOO
There is a route in TX that MR has been on. FWIW

TKS ,,do you know if any time in his past he's hauled or worked for any chemical companies ?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Why make 2 trips?
Why not wait for D to get up and then off ya go?

Makes no sense at all.

Um because Dylan wasn't even there? I find it highly unlikely that MR was going to drive into Durango then come home and turn around and drive back down to Bayfield. Especially when he himself said you get everything done you need to do while you're in town and especially since he was supposedly calling Dylan to see what he wanted from the store. If he knew he was taking him back to Bayfield he could have asked him on the way and picked up groceries in Bayfield. Surely they have grocery stores no? The whole thing is ridiculous.

 

[SCHMAE]

Does anyone know exactly where on the lake the dogs were hitting? I have read the east side of the lake but where exactly? I believe there is a body in that lake and sadly I think it is Dylan. I know it's a challenge for divers to get in there but there must be a way. When does the lake typically thaw? We're now at March 1st so spring is coming up quickly.

There is an area at the north of the lake where 5 smaller 'feeder' rivers come into the lake and along the east side is a place called ' five branches'. There is some confusion if its the ' five branches' location ( think its a campsite) or if its' the area where 5 rivers come into the lake, so I would say somewhere between the 2 at least !

 

[azgrandma]

I do think If dylan is in that lake it was anger that put him there.
I dont think it was premeditated.
alcohol could have been involved
Something got out of hand and now being covered up.

JMO

BBM - so then is one of POI's Jim Beam? Jack Daniel's or Samuel Adams? IDK

 

[Eileen730]

But I don't believe that! I've had plenty experience of my sons making plans to do things very early, setting alarms to get up early, arranging with me to give them lifts early ................ yet next morning, they roll over and go back to sleep. When they are comfy in bed and don't actually HAVE to get up early, the desire to stick to what they've planned diminishes somewhat!

Also, my life is very busy, so if they are wanting lifts in between me doing chores, I'll say to them "you can have a lift, but only if you are ready to go the very minute I get home" and they will wait outside for me, if the time has been set.

I'm not saying all kids are alike and all kids would behave like this - but the scenarios involving Dylan sleeping in, going off for a wander whilst waiting for MR to return, and even waiting outside for a lift are all things which ring very true to me.

To balance the argument out - I am still struggling with the circumstantial "evidence" which does suggest that Dylan may have "ceased to exist" with regards to mobile phone evidence, and the lack of sightings after Walmart on the Sunday night. But then again, just because someone isn't seen or heard from, doesn't necessarily mean that person isn't still there.

Its awful to think that the "best" scenario might be the one where he met an accident in the lake, as no one wants to think a kid died at the hands of a parent or an RSO. I like to hang onto Seejay's optimism, that he's being hidden somewhere, however unlikely that seems.

I hear you!

So they get up and get going cause you wont take them later.
MY kids would get up it might take two coaxings but they got up.


Mark wouldnt take Dylan Sunday night but he will take 2 trips monday?



Lack of cell activity is the number one red flag in this case IMO.
That says to me whatever happened happened sunday night!

And he didnt end up in that lake (if its him) by accident!
JMO

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

If Dylan was there he would have waited for him!
IMO Dylan was not there.

If Dylan was there MR would have made sure he got up and went with him. My daughter was the most difficult child in the world to wake up in the morning but you betcha she got up. She didn't have a choice in the matter.

 

[ColdHands]

I highlighted a post a couple of threads back from Azgrandama, where she said that Dylan was "just a little boy who wanted to visit his dad", so I'm still not convinced that he was there under duress. Especially as staying with MR meant he got to see his friends.

Frowny text could have meant a number of things, for example fed up after the delay or annoyed that mum wants him to check in (he probably thinks he's old enough to look after himself)

And since the frown was immediately followed by a smiley, I really think using that text to determine Dylan's state of mind will get nowhere.

 

[YidArmyRach]

Does anyone know exactly where on the lake the dogs were hitting? I have read the east side of the lake but where exactly? I believe there is a body in that lake and sadly I think it is Dylan. I know it's a challenge for divers to get in there but there must be a way. When does the lake typically thaw? We're now at March 1st so spring is coming up quickly.

IF it is Dylan in there, and IF MR put him there, then surely MR isn't going to sit around and wait till the divers recover him?

Apologies for the graphic nature of the next bit .....

I mean, the conditions must be perfect for preserving forensic evidence (injuries, proof of drowning/proof of a different cause of death, food in his stomach etc). If its Dylan and he has cereal in his stomach, then MR's story is true as far as Dylan was alive, at the house, and ate cereal on the Monday morning. However, I guess there is the chance that something could have happened AFTER MR's return from his chores, which I don't think has been suggested yet?

How bizarre would it be if the stories of the dead phone, no internet access, Dylan sleeping in and not contacting anyone were true ..... and the actual answer was something nobody had considered. Like MR coming back and saying "Sorry, but I'm really not up for that drive now, I've been on the go all day" and Dylan getting angry having waited all morning? All just brainstorming, not suggesting it happened.

However, if he had McD's in his stomach, then the whole Monday morning story is a pack of lies and can be proven to be. What I'm trying to say is, if its Dylan and if Mark is responsible, why would he be calmly waiting for the truth to come out, if he is guilty. Because its no secret that there is very likely a body waiting to be found in that lake, and no one else appears to be missing.

So, if MR sticks around as he has done so far, surely this could actually indicate that he has done nothing wrong at all.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

There is an area at the north of the lake where 5 smaller 'feeder' rivers come into the lake and along the east side is a place called ' five branches'. There is some confusion if its the ' five branches' location ( think its a campsite) or if its' the area where 5 rivers come into the lake, so I would say somewhere between the 2 at least !

Well that certainly isn't near the dam which was where I thought the earlier hits and searches were. I have heard the east side of the lake several times so I would assume it's closer to the five branches location.

 

[SuperMom1995]

Emotional immaturity is one of the signs of antisocial personality disorder.

I am really curious as to what his childhood was like.

That would go with some of the fb rumors going around too.