CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #40

[BeginnersLuck]

Even Elaine said "I think he drives trucks"!

Does anyone know what he does mabe the GF?

If you look at the open job descriptions on the website it will give you a idea of what kinds of positions there are at United Pipeline. I don't think there is a truck driving position, but someone would have to drive the supplies to the job site and then work at the job site. This is just my guess on how the truck driving thing came about. That and him previously driving a truck got mixed into this job that he currently has.

 

[Ronald99]

Ok sleuthers HELP!
MR does or DID work for united pipe? They said some weeks back they would ' match' a certain amount of the dylan fund for the reward. Remember? At that time I thought oh wow, they must really believe in MR ! So I wonder three things A ) does he still work for them B ) does the offer still stand or did they already donate to the fund after ( i think it was his bday and they said all money raised tonight,we will match dollar for dollar) C ) does United pipe run routes INTO TEXAS? MR said on dr phil show that on dylans bday he could not be there because he was in TEXAS for the ' company i work for' ( he did not say united pipe) and could not get back in time. So if united pipe does not run to texas, then he's not working there now, correct?

part two.

I made dh watch dr phil with eye rolls and groans ! But now he's got his thinking cap on and brought up 2 good points. Well first he's totally sure MR's the perp here . He wonders if looking at MR's 'run logs' of where his truck had been going the weeks leading up TO DR"s disappearance might be useful. Was MR anywhere particular like a specific great hiding location ? Maybe some out of the way l ocation he had to take 10 loads to over oct and nov and the area is isolated or has mines/ old houses/ deep quarries, etc. Also he wonders if MR has recently or EVER hauled or worked with any type of industrial chemicals..... acids Good questions I think. Many truck drivers have hauled hazmats so its possible MR knows where or has access to these chemicals in some way.
So I'm a touch proud of dh... because I've yet to see these 2 questions asked ! Don't know how or if we can get the answers, but points to ponder !

The majority of Trucks have a Satellite device called Qualcomm attached so there position is constantly monitored, plus they have a keyboard inside to correspond with Dispatchers. Now I'm not sure about his company requirements or vehicles.

 

[Eileen730]

BBM - so then is one of POI's Jim Beam? Jack Daniel's or Samuel Adams? IDK

Im sure Mark would place the blame on them yes!

Alcohol is a nasty friend!

 

[ColdHands]

If you look at United Pipeline's website, you can search for employment opportunities. It shows where their offices are located. They are scattered throughout the country.

If someone works out of town say for a week or longer at a construction sight, when they returned to town, they would have to turn in their paperwork to get reimbursed for expenses. The office wouldn't open until Monday morning to do so. So, it only makes sense that he would want to get this done and out of the way that day. I know this, from being married to and having friends that have similar careers.

It could also be speculated that he had to provide his attorney with paperwork concerning his income.

When a person works out of town for weeks at a time, your time is limited on when you can take care of everyday business. People that don't have to work, or have jobs where they return home everyday, don't have this challenge of having to take care of business in a very short time slot.

I find nothing unusual, or bad about MR wanting to get these things done and out of the way so he could spend time with Dylan. In fact he may have had to do these things that Monday morning. This is not one of the different things that have been discussed that raise my hinky meter about MR.

Just adding to this: payroll was probably working a short week that week. Having worked in the payroll industry for 16 years, I can say there it is highly likely that Mark had to get that paperwork in early that day to make a paycheck run or risk having to wait until the next pay cycle. I did not find that part of his story - the need to go turn in paperwork, unusual at all.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

IF it is Dylan in there, and IF MR put him there, then surely MR isn't going to sit around and wait till the divers recover him?

Apologies for the graphic nature of the next bit .....

I mean, the conditions must be perfect for preserving forensic evidence (injuries, proof of drowning/proof of a different cause of death, food in his stomach etc). If its Dylan and he has cereal in his stomach, then MR's story is true as far as Dylan was alive, at the house, and ate cereal on the Monday morning. However, I guess there is the chance that something could have happened AFTER MR's return from his chores, which I don't think has been suggested yet?

How bizarre would it be if the stories of the dead phone, no internet access, Dylan sleeping in and not contacting anyone were true ..... and the actual answer was something nobody had considered. Like MR coming back and saying "Sorry, but I'm really not up for that drive now, I've been on the go all day" and Dylan getting angry having waited all morning? All just brainstorming, not suggesting it happened.

What I'm trying to say is, if its Dylan and if Mark is responsible, why would he be calmly waiting for the truth to come out, if he is guilty. Because its no secret that there is very likely a body waiting to be found in that lake, and no one else appears to be missing.

So, if MR sticks around as he has done so far, surely this could actually indicate that he has done nothing wrong at all.

BBM

Are you saying that if he did it and put him in the lake he would have fled the country by now? Where could he possibly go? He owns houses and has a job and does he have that kind of money to up and flee the country? Does he have a passport? You don't think LE is watching for that?
I would think if MR did it and it is Dylan in the lake he would be a nervous wreck but I don't know that he would or could flee.

On the Dr Phil show he certainly didn't appear 'calm' to me.

 

[Eileen730]

If you look at the open job descriptions on the website it will give you a idea of what kinds of positions there are at United Pipeline. I don't think there is a truck driving position, but someone would have to drive the supplies to the job site and then work at the job site. This is just my guess on how the truck driving thing came about. That and him previously driving a truck got mixed into this job that he currently has.

My question tho is why dont we KNOW anything about what this guy does.
Whats the hush hush?

He hides?
There is a reason!

 

[YidArmyRach]

Yea and with a landline at the house Dylan would've been calling, Dad where you at _ how much longer dad _ dad you here yet, dad I'm outside waiting !

Plus Dylan would've been calling his Friends or Reaching out to someone, This is a young teenager that was glued to that cell phone, ( That for some unknown Reason all cell phone activity ceased the night before )
if I'm not to far mistaken the majority of people on this Forum posting never was 13 years old with the excitement of Being able to have a device / cell phone to instantly call text your friends.

Just because MR said 11:30 he'd be back doesn't mean 11:30, I'm sure he's Disapointed people on times he would arrive.

And all the above is quite a far stretch considering, I don't believe Dylan was at the house or sleeping at 7:30 am Monday Morning November 19 2012 !!

So glued to his phone that it wasn't in his hands in the cctv photos?

 

[SCHMAE]

Whew,, OK i had to ask a mod if nursebeeme was ok. I havent seen her in so long !
Shes' busy with another thread

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

BBM - so then is one of POI's Jim Beam? Jack Daniel's or Samuel Adams? IDK

Well he did put the blame on his good friend Jim Beam for not taking the poly. So I would say yes Jim needs to be put to the top of the list of POI's in this case.

:floorlaugh:

 

[Ronald99]

Sounds weird, but wouldn't that actually make it a "good" place for a perp to target? If everyone is of the opinion that "as it hasn't happened here before, it won't happen here" then people won't be on their guard and children won't have the same level of stranger danger drilled into them as others who live in more 'risky' places. Seems to me, the ideal place for a SO to target.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121127/NEWS01/121129662/Search-changes-focus

( Hess said she and those close to the family maintain Dylan did not run away from his father’s house.
“I guess the options are that someone took him against his will or foul play somewhere,” Hess said.
Bourque had similar fears.
“We’re one way in, one way out. Nobody is going to come to Vallecito looking for a little kid. There’s not even a playground here, there aren’t even that many kids here, and he wasn’t even living here. It doesn’t make any sense,” said Bourque, who has lived in the community for nine years.)

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

My question tho is why dont we KNOW anything about what this guy does.
Whats the hush hush?

He hides?
There is a reason!

I don't think it's hush hush. I believe he drives truck for them and have heard that he travels to NM CA and TX just to name a few.

Are you wondering specifically what type of truck and what he delivers?

 

[Eileen730]

IF it is Dylan in there, and IF MR put him there, then surely MR isn't going to sit around and wait till the divers recover him?

Apologies for the graphic nature of the next bit .....

I mean, the conditions must be perfect for preserving forensic evidence (injuries, proof of drowning/proof of a different cause of death, food in his stomach etc). If its Dylan and he has cereal in his stomach, then MR's story is true as far as Dylan was alive, at the house, and ate cereal on the Monday morning. However, I guess there is the chance that something could have happened AFTER MR's return from his chores, which I don't think has been suggested yet?

How bizarre would it be if the stories of the dead phone, no internet access, Dylan sleeping in and not contacting anyone were true ..... and the actual answer was something nobody had considered. Like MR coming back and saying "Sorry, but I'm really not up for that drive now, I've been on the go all day" and Dylan getting angry having waited all morning? All just brainstorming, not suggesting it happened.

What I'm trying to say is, if its Dylan and if Mark is responsible, why would he be calmly waiting for the truth to come out, if he is guilty. Because its no secret that there is very likely a body waiting to be found in that lake, and no one else appears to be missing.

So, if MR sticks around as he has done so far, surely this could actually indicate that he has done nothing wrong at all.

They have not gone to get the body from the lake yet! (seems one is in there).

He has no reasn to vanish yet and im sure LE has gps devices on his vehicles.

He is not ging anywhere!

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

I don't think it's hush hush. I believe he drives truck for them and have heard that he travels to NM CA and TX just to name a few.

Are you wondering specifically what type of truck and what he delivers?

No I was wondering if he DOES work for them?

It just seems NO ONE says anything. Just the ex gf and that was because they were on Dr Phil.

 

[deoneta]

IF it is Dylan in there, and IF MR put him there, then surely MR isn't going to sit around and wait till the divers recover him?

Apologies for the graphic nature of the next bit .....

I mean, the conditions must be perfect for preserving forensic evidence (injuries, proof of drowning/proof of a different cause of death, food in his stomach etc). If its Dylan and he has cereal in his stomach, then MR's story is true as far as Dylan was alive, at the house, and ate cereal on the Monday morning. However, I guess there is the chance that something could have happened AFTER MR's return from his chores, which I don't think has been suggested yet?

How bizarre would it be if the stories of the dead phone, no internet access, Dylan sleeping in and not contacting anyone were true ..... and the actual answer was something nobody had considered. Like MR coming back and saying "Sorry, but I'm really not up for that drive now, I've been on the go all day" and Dylan getting angry having waited all morning? All just brainstorming, not suggesting it happened.

What I'm trying to say is, if its Dylan and if Mark is responsible, why would he be calmly waiting for the truth to come out, if he is guilty. Because its no secret that there is very likely a body waiting to be found in that lake, and no one else appears to be missing.

So, if MR sticks around as he has done so far, surely this could actually indicate that he has done nothing wrong at all.

BBM IF there are remains in water, and IF MR is responsible, I believe he is relying on the fishing pole/accidental drowning scenario. I've thought from the first that the fishing pole was something to either suggest an accident or to point searchers in the wrong direction. MR was still talking about that fishing pole on Dr. Phil. All MOO

 

[Ronald99]

Even Elaine said "I think he drives trucks"!

Does anyone know what he does mabe the GF?

He drives a Truck, MR commented about his Rig and passing out missing child fliers of Dylan !!

 

[ColdHands]

IF it is Dylan in there, and IF MR put him there, then surely MR isn't going to sit around and wait till the divers recover him?

Apologies for the graphic nature of the next bit .....

I mean, the conditions must be perfect for preserving forensic evidence (injuries, proof of drowning/proof of a different cause of death, food in his stomach etc). If its Dylan and he has cereal in his stomach, then MR's story is true as far as Dylan was alive, at the house, and ate cereal on the Monday morning. However, I guess there is the chance that something could have happened AFTER MR's return from his chores, which I don't think has been suggested yet?

How bizarre would it be if the stories of the dead phone, no internet access, Dylan sleeping in and not contacting anyone were true ..... and the actual answer was something nobody had considered. Like MR coming back and saying "Sorry, but I'm really not up for that drive now, I've been on the go all day" and Dylan getting angry having waited all morning? All just brainstorming, not suggesting it happened.

However, if he had McD's in his stomach, then the whole Monday morning story is a pack of lies and can be proven to be. What I'm trying to say is, if its Dylan and if Mark is responsible, why would he be calmly waiting for the truth to come out, if he is guilty. Because its no secret that there is very likely a body waiting to be found in that lake, and no one else appears to be missing.

So, if MR sticks around as he has done so far, surely this could actually indicate that he has done nothing wrong at all.

I've been working on a Monday afternoon theory in my head for a few days. And then it got a boost this week when my son suggested maybe Dylan saw his dad do something and his dad felt he had to get rid of him. So maybe that happened on Monday afternoon. Dad had until 4ish to do something.

 

[ColdHands]

My question tho is why dont we KNOW anything about what this guy does.
Whats the hush hush?

He hides?
There is a reason!

Has anybody asked him?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

BBM IF there are remains in water, and IF MR is responsible, I believe he is relying on the fishing pole/accidental drowning scenario. I've thought from the first that the fishing pole was something to either suggest an accident or to point searchers in the wrong direction. MR was still talking about that fishing pole on Dr. Phil. All MOO

I couldn't agree more. If Dylan is in there he is hoping they will believe that he went off fishing on his own and fell in. AND took all of his belongings with him on that 6 or so mile trek. Mom says Dylan wasn't even that into fishing. And he just forgot to contact his friends and let them know he wasn't coming that morning.

I'll bet if they do find Dylan in that lake that fishing pole will indeed be in there too!

 

[catswhiskers]

BBM IF there are remains in water, and IF MR is responsible, I believe he is relying on the fishing pole/accidental drowning scenario. I've thought from the first that the fishing pole was something to either suggest an accident or to point searchers in the wrong direction. MR was still talking about that fishing pole on Dr. Phil. All MOO

I was hopeful when MR brought it up, that there may have been some further explanation about the fishing pole. Unfortunately he was interrupted and shouted down before he got to say anything much about it at all.

 

[Ronald99]

So glued to his phone that it wasn't in his hands in the cctv photos?

If you look at the airport pic, Dylan's right hand is not as far in his pocket,

The same with the Walmart Pic, again his right hand is not as far down in his pocket,

I know plenty of younger persons that keep there cell inside there pocket clutching the cell phone.