CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #40

[Eileen730]

I think he said he tried a few times, not all morning.

Didnt he say he tried to contact him while he was out doing his things?

then after he came home he just took a nap he never tried again till he went looking, then R tried.

JMO

 

[Allusonz]

BBM

Well MR felt that the reason his LDT was inconclusive or he failed was because the examiner wasn't properly qualified. I wonder how LE felt about that comment?

Was this something he BELIEVED or was it something he was TOLD?

To my way of thinking that is very different.

 

[findDylan]

BBM

Why? Why on earth would he move Dylan's fishing pole around to several places and especially odd since Dylan didn't even live there! Did Mark like playing with the fishing poles? Did he do this with all of them or just Dylan's?

He's not even good at it (deceit) and it's pathetic.

And he said there are "several places it is", not was or could have been, then he continues his sentence with saying it was "either next to the tv" or....

Kind of interesting his mixing the past and present tenses all in one sentence.

I really, really hate to think this and it makes me sick more then most can know, but reading it the way he said it IMO could be the clue as to what happened that night. The pole was next to the tv, MR got mad and used it and it broke and is now scattered around town.

This is just my thoughts. All my opinions.ect.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Was this something he BELIEVED or was it something he was TOLD?

To my way of thinking that is very different.

LOL with MR who knows. It's hard to differentiate what is in his head and what is reality.

 

[findDylan]

For as much as I know, Dylan could be alive thus they know Dylan could not possibly be in the lake.

Even if it's not Dylan in the lake someone is and they need to be recovered. IMO

 

[Allusonz]

LOL with MR who knows. It's hard to differentiate what is in his head and what is reality.

LE knows

That for me is all counts...

 

[Meri]

Why? Just because Dr. Phil says he has the best examiner? That this examiner actually trains the FBI?

That means then that the people he has trained must be darn good to my thinking if they are trained by the best. I would even think that the criteria would be set higher to receive credentials or pass the training.

I happen to agree with Dan Bender that they do have some good examiners.

LE, I have heard, doesn't give 100% weight to lie detector test results. But, what they do give a lot of weight to is the person's reaction to being asked to take one.

I believe he should have taken the one Dr. Phil was offering because he complained that the first one he took was inconclusive and perhaps the guy giving it to him was not qualified. He also said elsewhere, a couple times I believe, that he would take another one. If I were Dr. Phil, knowing all that, I would have offered one to him, too, especially with the experience that Dr. Phil's examiner has.

If he never wanted to take another test, he just should have said he did not want to from the get-go - even before the show. But, he did not - he said the opposite. He speaks out of two sides of his mouth.

 

[SCHMAE]

Very common pattern among liars. :moo:

Think I might choose a new signature:
No more divert, distract, deflect. Mark Redwine, WHERE IS DYLAN?

LMAO it 's not funny but this just made think what a great politician he would be ....... you know the presidential debates?? No one answers those questions but folks still seem to think they did.

 

[Allusonz]

Even if it's not Dylan in the lake someone is and they need to be recovered. IMO

Not if someone spread ashes.

There would be no body to recover.

This is then logged with the specific spot etc.

 

[jjenny]

Did he say in previous statements that he tried calling and texting all morning? I cant' remember now if that was rumor or true fact ! Tks

That's not a rumor. MR claimed he tried to text him in the morning to see if he wanted to spend Thanksgiving at home, in which case MR would have to buy things for Thanksgiving.

 

[findDylan]

Was this something he BELIEVED or was it something he was TOLD?

To my way of thinking that is very different.

MR was first told he failed then was told it was inconclusive. It is in the transcripts right out of MR's mouth.

 

[TGIRecovered]

he says "we" a lot when he's trying to avoid responsibility and spread blame. he could have had someone there (maybe that's why DR's unhappy modicon?) or is just saying "we" b/c something happened on the way home and he's trying to elude responsibility.

I wonder if someone waited in the car?

Oooh! Maybe someone followed in a separate vehicle..."we" picked him up.

Or, maybe MR called someone for help later on. I'll have to ponder that.

I wonder what condition MR was in the next morning when he ran errands. Did he look like a guy who got a good night's sleep or was he bleary eyed and disheveled, nervous, or distracted?

It seems that no one who saw him that morning has come forward publicly. Not even the lawyer.




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[jjenny]

Budget cuts.:what:

:floorlaugh:

 

[Allusonz]

LE, I have heard, doesn't give 100% weight to lie detector test results. But, what they do give a lot of weight to is the person's reaction to being asked to take one.

I believe he should have taken the one Dr. Phil was offering because he complained that the first one he took was inconclusive and perhaps the guy giving it to him was not qualified. He also said elsewhere, a couple times I believe, that he would take another one. If I were Dr. Phil, knowing all that, I would have offered one to him, too, especially with the experience that Dr. Phil's examiner has.

If he never wanted to take another test, he just should have said he did not want to from the get-go - even before the show. But, he did not - he said the opposite. He speaks out of two sides of his mouth.

Why?

Someone asked prior to this and I forget the poster that did ask.

It was asked if he takes the polygraph and passes will it change your mind? I think I read 2 posts whereby someone stated that they would consider the results. Most stated it would not change their minds.

 

[pattywack]

Did he say in previous statements that he tried calling and texting all morning? I cant' remember now if that was rumor or true fact ! Tks

Yes he did....I posted it earlier in this thread as a direct quote from MR during his interview with Melissa B.I think it is around page 11?

 

[Allusonz]

MR was first told he failed then was told it was inconclusive. It is in the transcripts right out of MR's mouth.

Yes I know. I finally got time to see part 2. Work has been busy.

So lets see he is willing to tell the country that the first test he was told he failed, and then he was told it was inconclusive.

What makes anyone think that Dr. Phil's examiner would be any different? I don't think Dr. Phil's examiner has any type of magic to make people suddenly pass.

As well, when did the teaser go on the Dr. Phil site stating the polygrah drama - results?

Secondly, when did they change that teaser name?

They did after all tape on the 20th I believe. Thus by the latest they knew the morning of the 21st that he had not taken it.

Why the teaser name then?

 

[ColdHands]

Not if someone spread ashes.

There would be no body to recover.

This is then logged with the specific spot etc.

Oh you mean like spread ashes after a cremation? Would an HRD dog alert to that? I know there are some detectable pieces left in the ashes when they give them back to you, maybe the dogs could hit on that?

 

[SCHMAE]

"MR:
To respond to that, if I may, I attempted to go to T’s house to talk to him but he didn’t answer the door. *I assumed that possibly him and Dylan were at the lake. *You know the fishing pole has never been found…I assumed that maybe that was a possibility. *Do I know for a fact that he had a fishing pole? *Absolutely not…
*
CR:
When you go into your house the fishing pole is in the garage. *You didn’t walk through the garage and into the house before you went into the house...
*
MR:
There’s several places that that fishing pole is… it was either next to the TV
*
CR:
It’s always in the garage. *Then how come that’s the first …you noticed that before his bike? *Before his footprints?"

Fount it.. Thank you sooo much TXJan(and what ever numbers are behind it.

I dont' remember anyone saying anything about noticing Dylan's foot prints.......... Hmm. The only thing I can think is when ER said they looked all over for his footprints when she got there.

 

[Allusonz]

Oh you mean like spread ashes after a cremation? Would an HRD dog alert to that? I know there are some detectable pieces left in the ashes when they give them back to you, maybe the dogs could hit on that?

Ashes are decomp. A good HRD k9 should alert.



We as well have the case of the grandparents dying but they have been unable to find the 2 children they believed perished in the fire.

 

[absentia]

You may be right, I also considered that he might have been injured but alive that night but dead by morning.

My problem is that there would have been some indication that a dead body had been in the home. A cadaver dog will detect the scent even if the person was removed from the scene soon after death. I think that if there had been any indication of decomp scent in MR's car or home, he would be sitting in a jail cell by now.




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that could be the case - unconscious or injured at night and deceased by AM. But, if the body were wrapped (tarp, plastic, etc) would the dogs pick up the scent?