CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #40

[FruitTingles]

I think that MR is a very complicated and difficult man. He's really stubborn. I can see him not wanting to do the poly that day, not after 2 hours of being in the hot seat and obviously feeling like he was ambushed, but then he sabotaged the one the next day. Not good. Not good at all.

I'm thinking now that Dr. Phil should have had him take the poly before he got on the show. Brought him out a day earlier than anyone else and had him to the poly then. Or just announced he was given the chance and he refused it instead of all that other drama, if he had refused to take it before the show.

He didn't do himself any favors. He looked really bad in this. I'm beginning to believe he's got some deep seeded mental issues.

Not ready to say he killed Dylan. That's a big step for me. I find it harder to get there than the rest of you, but I'm working on it.

I think for me, to even think MR killed Dylan, I have to believe Dylan is dead and I can't do that. Like Elaine, I choose hope. I want to believe Dylan is alive somewhere and if he is, anything could have happened. That's just my opinion right now. Sorry if it doesn't match with anyone else's. I have a right to feel the way I do. IMO

TY for putting in to words exactly how I feel. Big hugs Seajay.

 

[Ronald99]

This former GF that dated MR for six months is named Karen,

( I would like to know when this was, and if Dylan told Elaine while he was with MR that week, Or when Dylan returned home. )


Dr Phil - So your not in a Relationship with him now
Karen - no
Dr Phil - But you were in the past and you've observed him wit Dylan
Karen - Yes i did.
Dr Phil - and you say they had a good relationship

Karen - Yes i uh Traveled to Marks home _ spent a week with him and Dylan and um Everything that he said is exactly what happened Mark uh Dylan slept on the couch _ um he would never get up, You know he would walk around he would get up in the morning Mark would and smoke a cigarette and have a cup of coffee and he'd be like Dylan dylee boy lets go get up get up _ and we'd do this for like hour hour and a half two hours _ he just wouldn't get up. _ And the same thing is like his work _ he would have to go in to town to do his payroll or drop off papers because he traveled _ That's why he's not home to be with his kids, i mean he travels he works out of town and when he comes home he would get Dylan _ But i don't believe for a minute he killed his kid or (interruption )__ if ?

Dr Phil interrupts and talks. But it sounded like she said the word if last.
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There's a lot about this Karen lady that's setting off alerts inside of me, I'm very tired and copied this down accurately as possible, I realize there's wonderful members on this Forum, and I'm praying some of you will take time and notice how Karen is Referencing the week she Traveled to Marks house, and Karen is backing the story that MR stated about how Dylan was laying on the couch, and mark made noise, yet Dylan didn't get up just layed there.

From her supposed weeks stay with Mark and Dylan, Karen is claiming the way Mark has told everyone about the morning Dylan went missing this is how Dylan always acted, and he's using this Karen lady as his alibi. Plus she's backing him on running downtown to turn in paperwork.

This Karen Lady seems rough around the edges like a lady that can back her self physically, She really needs to be brought in if not already and talked to concerning the way she mirrored MR statement concerning the day Dylan went missing, from a previous time.

I'm to tired to comment the way this needs to be viewed, Thanks Everyone !!!

 

[Seajay]

This former GF that dated MR for six months is named Karen,

( I would like to know when this was, and if Dylan told Elaine while he was with MR that week, Or when Dylan returned home. )


Dr Phil - So your not in a Relationship with him now
Karen - no
Dr Phil - But you were in the past and you've observed him wit Dylan
Karen - Yes i did.
Dr Phil - and you say they had a good relationship

Karen - Yes i uh Traveled to Marks home _ spent a week with him and Dylan and um Everything that he said is exactly what happened Mark uh Dylan slept on the couch _ um he would never get up, You know he would walk around he would get up in the morning Mark would and smoke a cigarette and have a cup of coffee and he'd be like Dylan dylee boy lets go get up get up _ and we'd do this for like hour hour and a half two hours _ he just wouldn't get up. _ And the same thing is like his work _ he would have to go in to town to do his payroll or drop off papers because he traveled _ That's why he's not home to be with his kids, i mean he travels he works out of town and when he comes home he would get Dylan _ But i don't believe for a minute he killed his kid or (interruption )__ if ?

Dr Phil interrupts and talks. But it sounded like she said the word if last.
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There's a lot about this Karen lady that's setting off alerts inside of me, I'm very tired and copied this down accurately as possible, I realize there's wonderful members on this Forum, and I'm praying some of you will take time and notice how Karen is Referencing the week she Traveled to Marks house, and Karen is backing the story that MR stated about how Dylan was laying on the couch, and mark made noise, yet Dylan didn't get up just layed there.

From her supposed weeks stay with Mark and Dylan, Karen is claiming the way Mark has told everyone about the morning Dylan went missing this is how Dylan always acted, and he's using this Karen lady as his alibi. Plus she's backing him on running downtown to turn in paperwork.

This Karen Lady seems rough around the edges like a lady that can back her self physically, She really needs to be brought in if not already and talked to concerning the way she mirrored MR statement concerning the day Dylan went missing, from a previous time.

I'm to tired to comment the way this needs to be viewed, Thanks Everyone !!!

Why??? She knows what's being questioned and doubted about MR's story and if she was there and saw Dylan doing pretty much the same thing, then all she's doing is saying she saw this type of behavior before. There is also questions about MR going into town to deliver paperwork and she had first hand knowledge of other times he did this. She was just verifying that when she was there, these same things happened, that they weren't terminally unique that day Dylan arrived then disappeared the next day. JMO.

 

[Money Girl]

This former GF that dated MR for six months is named Karen,

( I would like to know when this was, and if Dylan told Elaine while he was with MR that week, Or when Dylan returned home. )


Dr Phil - So your not in a Relationship with him now
Karen - no
Dr Phil - But you were in the past and you've observed him wit Dylan
Karen - Yes i did.
Dr Phil - and you say they had a good relationship

Karen - Yes i uh Traveled to Marks home _ spent a week with him and Dylan and um Everything that he said is exactly what happened Mark uh Dylan slept on the couch _ um he would never get up, You know he would walk around he would get up in the morning Mark would and smoke a cigarette and have a cup of coffee and he'd be like Dylan dylee boy lets go get up get up _ and we'd do this for like hour hour and a half two hours _ he just wouldn't get up. _ And the same thing is like his work _ he would have to go in to town to do his payroll or drop off papers because he traveled _ That's why he's not home to be with his kids, i mean he travels he works out of town and when he comes home he would get Dylan _ But i don't believe for a minute he killed his kid or (interruption )__ if ?

Dr Phil interrupts and talks. But it sounded like she said the word if last.
-------------------

There's a lot about this Karen lady that's setting off alerts inside of me, I'm very tired and copied this down accurately as possible, I realize there's wonderful members on this Forum, and I'm praying some of you will take time and notice how Karen is Referencing the week she Traveled to Marks house, and Karen is backing the story that MR stated about how Dylan was laying on the couch, and mark made noise, yet Dylan didn't get up just layed there.

From her supposed weeks stay with Mark and Dylan, Karen is claiming the way Mark has told everyone about the morning Dylan went missing this is how Dylan always acted, and he's using this Karen lady as his alibi. Plus she's backing him on running downtown to turn in paperwork.

This Karen Lady seems rough around the edges like a lady that can back her self physically, She really needs to be brought in if not already and talked to concerning the way she mirrored MR statement concerning the day Dylan went missing, from a previous time.

I'm to tired to comment the way this needs to be viewed, Thanks Everyone !!!

I don't share your opinion of the ex-girlfriend at all.

 

[Money Girl]

https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine

someone posting they have possibly seen Mark with Dylan - tried to call tip line but no answer

post by KBW 17 min ago - I can't find the post by Elaine that is being referenced

^^^^^^Check this out, what do y'all think?

I don't visit any of the Facebook pages, because all they seem to contain are postings bashing MR.

 

[asyousay]

I don't visit any of the Facebook pages, because all they seem to contain are postings bashing MR.

Well he makes that very easy . He is the last one to have seen Dylan and is still lacking any empathy for his sons plight , instead deciding to find the answer is a bottle :cow:

Now he could just be a terrible father granted but I think there is more to it than that :cow:

 

[Money Girl]

To mediate what, exactly? There's no pending litigation (to my knowledge), so on what would they be coming to an agreement?

Mediation was a recommendation by LE so that ER and MR could ask each other questions and answers could be provided by both parties in a neutral setting.

 

[Ronald99]

Why??? She knows what's being questioned and doubted about MR's story and if she was there and saw Dylan doing pretty much the same thing, then all she's doing is saying she saw this type of behavior before. There is also questions about MR going into town to deliver paperwork and she had first hand knowledge of other times he did this. She was just verifying that when she was there, these same things happened, that they weren't terminally unique that day Dylan arrived then disappeared the next day. JMO.

How convenient that that's all she observed in her weeks stay with Dylan and Mark.

Nothing positive concerning Dylan.

 

[Money Girl]

How convenient that that's all she observed in her weeks stay with Dylan and Mark.

Nothing positive concerning Dylan.

She wasn't allowed to talk anymore. DP cut her off. She probably had many more interesting items to discuss.

 

[Money Girl]

Well he makes that very easy . He is the last one to have seen Dylan and is still lacking any empathy for his sons plight , instead deciding to find the answer is a bottle :cow:

Now he could just be a terrible father granted but I think there is more to it than that :cow:

I see much empathy on MR's part. The man is torn to pieces.

As far as drinking 1/2 pint of Jim Bean when he could not sleep, I certainly do not think that small amount of alcohol is going to make a man as large as MR drunk. I hope it did help him get a few hours of sleep after all the hell he was put through on DP.

 

[asyousay]

I see much empathy on MR's part. The man is torn to pieces.

As far as drinking 1/2 pint of Jim Bean when he could not sleep, I certainly do not think that small amount of alcohol is going to make a man as large as MR drunk. I hope it did help him get a few hours of sleep after all the hell he was put through on DP.

The answer is never alcohol when you have problems . As far as I am aware it acts as a depressant so would actually make his problems worse .

 

[Abstar80]

I have just had a thought, and I apologise if this has been discussed earlier.

I wonder if it is at all possible that MR palmed off DR to one of his trucker mates to take for a drive to put the wind up EH. I wonder if this was done so he could send the text messages about him being missing etc, and possibly this hit the news way faster than MR ever considered it would which put it out of his control. I wonder if the intention was the DR would be brought back to him or he would "find" him a day or two later, but because of all the attention the person that MR gave him to has freaked and couldn't bring him back.......I hope that makes sense!!

All of this is of course JMHO...

 

[Eileen730]

Not that I'm aware of. I've been reading this thread along with the Dr. Phil thread all along and all I've seen is that the dogs alerted in an area and are pretty much showing there is something there, but I haven't heard how they plan on proceeding from there.

I just think since MR was accused from the beginning, he put a big wall up around himself and he's not letting anyone through. It could be because he's guilty but it also could be because he's in pain as well and having to deal with this suspicion besides, he just is recessing backwards into himself. This could be his only way of dealing with it. Some people just are not good at controversy or drama in their lives. Some people just don't react the way we would think they would. I have a story about that with my DIL and to this day I don't understand it, but I know that's what she did.

I think if he were innocent here he would be handling this entire differently.
It really didnt have to be this way.


JMO

 

[Eileen730]

The answer is never alcohol when you have problems . As far as I am aware it acts as a depressant so would actually make his problems worse .

I think alcohol has been in this picture for a long long time!

I liked the line1


You cleanded Up well!

As soon as the poly was nixed he was back to normal Mark Redwine playing with his tie like a10 yr old.


JMO

 

[Eileen730]

I see much empathy on MR's part. The man is torn to pieces.

As far as drinking 1/2 pint of Jim Bean when he could not sleep, I certainly do not think that small amount of alcohol is going to make a man as large as MR drunk. I hope it did help him get a few hours of sleep after all the hell he was put through on DP.

Well to me he was only distraught when it was polygraph time.

I saw no distress the rest of the show he really didnt look upset to me.
I saw anger not sadness , worry despair.....

All I saw was was a man moving his mouth saying nothing!

 

[Eileen730]

I have just had a thought, and I apologise if this has been discussed earlier.

I wonder if it is at all possible that MR palmed off DR to one of his trucker mates to take for a drive to put the wind up EH. I wonder if this was done so he could send the text messages about him being missing etc, and possibly this hit the news way faster than MR ever considered it would which put it out of his control. I wonder if the intention was the DR would be brought back to him or he would "find" him a day or two later, but because of all the attention the person that MR gave him to has freaked and couldn't bring him back.......I hope that makes sense!!

All of this is of course JMHO...

Hi there Abstar!
I think if he passed Dylan off to someone that person would have turned himself and dylan in and explained what happened they would spend alot of time in Jail for kidnapping,


I think its dylan in that lake
And I sure hope they can recover this young man!

JMO

 

[deoneta]

The answer is never alcohol when you have problems . As far as I am aware it acts as a depressant so would actually make his problems worse .

8 oz of Jim Beam is a fair amount of booze although who knows if that is correct. When MR was wiggling out of the LDT for the second time, it was a half a bottle of Jim Bean. Once the poly threat was removed, MR immediately started minimizing. Well it was a half bottle, but only a half of a little old pint bottle. Minimizing, just as he minimized hiding the children and minimized domestic violence. Minimize, deflect, avoid, anything except accepting responsibility. All MOO

 

[Berry]

I see much empathy on MR's part. The man is torn to pieces.

As far as drinking 1/2 pint of Jim Bean when he could not sleep, I certainly do not think that small amount of alcohol is going to make a man as large as MR drunk. I hope it did help him get a few hours of sleep after all the hell he was put through on DP.

May I ask who is at the top of your list as a supect? Interesting posts thanks.

 

[Abstar80]

I guess I am just trying to cling to hope that this little fella is still alive somewhere.

You are probably right about the other person bringing him in, but there is still the niggling doubt in my mind about MR's powers of control. It seems that he thrives on threatening people etc.

The other thought I have had, and I realise this may not be possible, but I wonder if the electricty provider to MR's cabin can see if extra electricty was used the night DR arrived at MR's compared to the nights leading up to this event. I guess what i am trying to say is, if MR did something I would think that he would have been up all night, possibly washing clothes and or cleaning up a crime scene. Being that it has been confirmed that he attended his payroll office in the morning, whatever transpired would have had to have happened before 7:30am. He has been adamant that he went to bed. JMHO

 

[Money Girl]

May I ask who is at the top of your list as a supect? Interesting posts thanks.

IMO, Dylan was injured in an accident while out roaming on his own.

Or, he was abducted.