CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #40

[jackieblue]

When do DP shows air?

 

[Eileen730]

LOL this is amusing!

http://www.wisebread.com/no-signal-5-quick-ways-to-boost-your-cell-phone-reception-updated

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Wouldnt you feel better with Dr Phils guy?
I would think it would be less stressfull,

Honestly I think if you have nothing to hide it wouldnt matter who gave you the test!

JMO

Well since Mark was questioning the 'ability' of the polygrapher who took the first one, I would think knowing JT's training would have made him much more comfortable.

Funny that LE has come out and said the polygrapher that gave him that test was fully qualified and trained to do so. It's just another Mark excuse. It was the polygrapher's fault that he failed or it was inconclusive. It's always someone else's fault. Don't we all see that?

Heck he even blamed poor Jim Beam for not taking another one.

If LE wasn't looking at Mark before I assure you they are now. I believe they have been all along. Can you imagine how his discussions with LE went? He never gives a direct answer to anything!

This is exactly why I wanted to hear Mark speak. I knew when he did it would answer a lot of questions in my mind at least. This is why I'm so glad that Elaine and Cory and family/friends have done everything they have to call him out. Basically they backed him into a corner where he had to at least try to speak out to defend himself or allow everyone to believe in his guilt. He has done a very poor job though and would have been better off keeping quiet. LOL

 

[Eileen730]

When do DP shows air?

for me in florida its cbs at 4 pm

 

[jackieblue]

Did they or can they do DNA testing on the bowl of cereal to see who actually ate it?

 

[cluciano63]

When they collected the $60k or so, wasn't it said at one point it would be for a reward and searching? Or are there separate funds? Wondering if those $ could be applied for searching that lake.

 

[KateNY]

post on FMDR by TTW re her son.....

 

[Eileen730]

Well since Mark was questioning the 'ability' of the polygrapher who took the first one, I would think knowing JT's training would have made him much more comfortable.

Funny that LE has come out and said the polygrapher that gave him that test was fully qualified and trained to do so. It's just another Mark excuse. It was the polygrapher's fault that he failed or it was inconclusive. It's always someone else's fault. Don't we all see that?

Heck he even blamed poor Jim Beam for not taking another one.

If LE wasn't looking at Mark before I assure you they are now. I believe they have been all along. Can you imagine how his discussions with LE went? He never gives a direct answer to anything!

This is exactly why I wanted to hear Mark speak. I knew when he did it would answer a lot of questions in my mind at least. This is why I'm so glad that Elaine and Cory and family/friends have done everything they have to call him out. Basically they backed him into a corner where he had to at least try to speak out to defend himself or allow everyone to believe in his guilt. He has done a very poor job though and would have been better off keeping quiet. LOL

Oh I think their eye has been on Mark since day one!

 

[jackieblue]

for me in florida its cbs at 4 pm

Thank you, should be the same for me then.

 

[cluciano63]

Did they or can they do DNA testing on the bowl of cereal to see who actually ate it?

I doubt they ever thought about it, as they did not do a real search of house for ten days and surely it would not still have been sitting there. They thought he had run away when they first briefly looked through the house, mainly searching for his phone.

 

[TGIRecovered]

(Caution, theory with graphic details, don't read if you don't want to consider possible cause of death.)


Maybe LE is thinking that right now, only the killer knows what happened to Dylan before he ended up in the lake( if it is Dylan under the ice). They could bring in the heavy equipment and send divers down to retrieve what is there, or they can wait for more favorable weather conditions in a few weeks.

This body might show signs of a struggle, broken bones, strangulation marks, etc. If they wait and there really is a body down there, no one else can get to it and no one really knows who it is except for the person who dumped the body. Maybe this person is known to run his mouth, making excuses and deflecting, especially when he feels stressed. If he accidentally lets anything slip about a possible cause of death or anything else that only the killer( if there is a killer) would know, he's toast.

I don't think that whomever took Dylan was considering stomach contents or other details during the crime. I think that the person may have considered before what he might do if he had to get rid of a body. That fateful night, temper flared and Dylan was gravely injured or dead. Panic ensues and the killer used the quickest way to get rid of the body in a way he might have fantasized about in the past. The victim could have been Elaine or Cory if the opportunity had presented itself, but Dylan was the most vulnerable. Predators always go for the easiest kill, don't they?

All just MOO


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[Psychic Sleuth]

I stated this awhile back in January I believe, MR would've needed to awaken around 5:30 to get himself awake and ready to take off and have Dylan there by 6:30.

What's also bothered me about this timeframe, Was MR going to cook Breakfast for Himself and Dylan, or just eat cereal, or maybe he planned on stopping at a breakfast place prior to dropping off Dylan, MR never mentioned anything about food other than the prior night McDonalds, and that supposed cereal bowl of Dylan's upon return.

I'd really be interested in where and what MR had himself eaten that morning or day, That could explain his intentions, or if his plans were truthful concerning the time.

And I noticed Ryan attempted to contact Dylan just after 6:30 am Monday morning by cell phone, So Ryan was as excited about seeing Dylan as Dylan was seeing Ryan.

MR is fully Responsible for Dylan's Disapearance, no matter what theory's are floating around, MR action on the Dr Phil Show Solified Dylan's Disappearance.

And according to the texts between Dylan and Ryan, Dylan was equally as excited to see him! Or maybe even more so!!

My daughter always was and still is a bear to wake up in the morning. But let me tell you (she is now 27) if she had to get up for a trip to Disneyland or to go snowboarding or something fun she jumps right out of bed!! It's amazing how they are able to wake up for fun stuff.

 

[La Louve]

Hey Id be open to abduction if...........

1. Dylan didnt drop off the texting universe the night before.

2. Dad not looking for his son and taking a 2 hr nap.

3. Dad Not doing anything at all to find his son.

4. Dad saying there is his fishing pole missing.

Mark is not doing much of anything to find his son.

This is why I dont think a stranger took him.
There are a ton of other things to add to that list but i wont!

BBM

I was watching the DP show again last night and what struck me even more than the nap was that MR didn't call Dylan when he got home later that morning.

> MR supposedly was unable to wake his son on Monday morning for a 630 am meeting time with Dylan's friends.
>So he leaves to go run his errands in town for work and the attorney.
>He comes home four hours later and Dylan is gone.
And he doesn't pick up the phone and call Dylan's cell and find out what is going on???? After the morning plans had fallen through I think it would be normal for dad to wonder if the boy's plans had changed for the day and call him and find out when he'd be home, or when he wanted dad to come pick him up. Normal parenting stuff.

If this man is not involved in the disappearance of his son he's certainly one of the most unengaged parents I've ever heard of.

 

[ColdHands]

I was thinking about some of the things said about Mark yesterday. That he froze once he realized the show was about him and not Dylan, that he was rebellious about feeling like the polygraph was being pushed on him, and all these things that have been said about controlling etc.

I do NOT want to get into the JonBenet case here, but the Ramseys pushed and shoved and refused and got indignant and adamant and very defensive and offended and all of that. But they did give interviews and took the polygraphs once they felt that they had control over the situation.

I think a good lawyer, even if Mark is innocent, could go a long way to helping Mark feel like he has some control or even safety in the situation. Would it be a perfect scenario for law enforcement? Nope, but it could get Mark some of what he needs to move this along.

This is not a "pity poor Mark" defense from me. This is me wondering what it would take to get everyone past this hook that "Mark did something."

Was re-reading this CNN transcript today about the Ramseys and their polygraphs. http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0005/24/se.02.html

JMO. Thinking in my head again.

 

[SuziQ]

This has probably been asked and answered, but if someone could help me I would appreciate it.

Since plans were made by Dylan to be at his friends at 6:30, what happened to this planned meeting time? Has MR explained why the time changed? IIRC, MR has stated he knew the plan was for Dylan to meet up with his friends at 6:30 am. So why the 7:30 change?

IMO MR had no clue about Dylan's 6:30am plans before he made the statement about 7:30am. I think he found out from LE after his statement and by that time it's too late to change his story.

 

[Ronald99]

Your kids are not everybody else's kids. Not being sarcastic but if one bases their opinions strictly on what their own kids would do, that's not being very fair. The point is, not all kids are predictable just from one's own experiences. All kids are different and it can vary from one extreme to the other in the same family.
I've got 3, and the youngest is as different from his brothers as daylight and dark. I could try 10 times to get him out of bed, and he would roll over and go back to sleep sometimes. Other times he would get up as soon as I called him. He's still like that, and he's grown!!

But how would your child act if he had traveled 300 miles to see his Father and was excited about seeing and spending time with his prior best friend / friends ?

 

[jjenny]

That would be amazing if Dr Phil was able to provide the funds to get a real team in there to search the lake.

I don't understand the reluctance by LE other than a budget factor so if the funds are available and a good team is able to get in there now I think it would be welcomed by LE.

I wonder if MR would be willing to donate Dylan's "college fund" to the effort.

MOO

I don't understand LE's reluctance either. Organizations like Texas Equusearch have experience in searching the lakes and such. I don't know if Dylan is anywhere near the lake, but there have been multiple cadaver dogs in the area, so something is decomposing in there.

 

[Seek&Find]

Admittedly this bothers me. I guess it is a pet peeve of mine, too.

I understand there are many possibilities of why the time changed that may not be nefarious. Overslept, alarm didn't go off, etc...But that would mean 2 people overslept. I wonder if Dylan was in the habit of using the alarm on his cellphone. I can vouch for many kids that do. Of course Dylan's phone would have to be working. Then there was a concern whether R's grandma would mind the early time? What happened to being considerate of R's grandma and showing up at the planned time?

Jumping off this post...

And Mark's never said they overslept, etc. He's given several conflicting statements abt his attempts to wake Dylan, including supposedly shuffling around making noise for a long time. That's not a logical action if they'd overslept/alarm failed, IMO. That's the thing with so many pieces of evidence (that some consider to be coincidence). One might be able to explain away this part or that part, but one has to ignore what Mark has said/done in conjunction with the "coincidences".

Just like the hypothesis regarding Dylan not having cell service at Mark's. We have to ignore both Mark's statements and actions that indicate Dylan did have service there (in addition to other's statements/evidence to the contrary).

I don't consider Mark a truthful person (understatement). But I have seen some who seem to believe him regarding some things, but then discard Mark's statements when they don't fit with potential explanations. Not directed at this poster, just something noticed over the course of this case.

Moo

 

[jjenny]

IMO MR had no clue about Dylan's 6:30am plans before he made the statement about 7:30am. I think he found out from LE after his statement and by that time it's too late to change his story.

But since Dylan needed for MR to give him a ride how could MR not know?
Dylan was the one suggesting a time of 6:30 am to R. I believe MR had to know Dylan wanted to be there at 6:30 am.

 

[TxLady2]

If he is in a lake, or Dam area, MR could have stopped after getting food at McDonalds as soon as they crossed the Dam, in the uncut interview, MR stated the cell phone reception is received after crossing the Dam.

MR could have gotten out and told Dylan, Let me take a pic of you by this waterway, Pushed Dylan in or struck Dylan hard enough to knock him out or daze him, attach Dylan's backpack to his shoulders, and MR made sure the cell phone was inside the backpack.
There wouldn't be a crime scene noticeable, and MR had a camera laying on the kitchen table durning the reporters interview.

The above is just a theory, and I apologize for posting a posibile theory like the above, and I'm praying Dylan is safe !!

That's just...... unbelievable! Sorry, can't wrap my brain around that one. That would sort of scream premeditation, wouldn't it? There would have to be a motive to do something like that, and I see no reason to believe he planned to kill his son.

I don't know what you're getting at with the camera laying on the table. Many people leave them laying around. I have one right in front of my t.v. on the entertainment center. Unless there are pictures of Dylan falling over the edge of the guardrail or something, I don't see what that has to do with anything, sorry.