CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #41

[Seek&Find]

This is soo depressing to think of

I can understand it seeming that way, but Dylan's either already in heaven, or he's here, alive. What we say can't change the state he's currently in. I believe heaven to be joyous, fun, full of life and love and completeness, so to me, it's not hard to picture a joyous reunion, and Oma's relief and excitement at seeing him. It's hard for those of us here, though.

I wish Dylan was safe at home with Elaine, and Oma would be healed. Moo

 

[SCHMAE]

I would consider it if I could hear of a believable scenario (believable to me, anyway). I get the feeling that MR would have found a way to "produce" Dylan before that disaster of a DP appearance if it were possible to do so. People may have "secret" friends, but they are never as secret as they think they are, especially when you have the FBI examining your life for three-plus momths.

Good point. Even though at this point I think it is unlikely that Dylan is hidden somewhere, MR is so arrogant and self assured, he probably does think he could ' produce ' him and say " wow holy cow, looky there, he just walked up and knocked on my door' and think he could get away with it. He probably thinks he could. Then he thinks he would look like a super hero to ER . Do it now MR, show us a magic show ! :moo:

 

[La Louve]

Maybe because she had never done that in the past? If she had, I would think that would definitely be his first reaction. Just as hers was probably to assume he was hiding him somewhere. I believe this is the reason why should would contact her attorney almost immediately (if she did indeed do that).

If I were the ex-wife of a man:
(a) known to have previously hidden his children from exes,
(b) who was having his first visit with his son since a MAJOR change in the custody/child support arrangement, and
(c) whose son went missing less than 24 hour after arriving at the father's,
my divorce attorney would be one of the people I would call first too!

 

[Salem]

Hey! Just saw that the Dr Phil's are now on YouTube! May be easier to view than ustream.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=iibjclUtGKw&desktop_uri=/watch?v=iibjclUtGKw

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=NNUH...ch?v=NNUHI--tmnI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Disclaimer: I have these on DVR, so I haven't viewed these YouTube versions.

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock:



That ustream nonsense is just toooooooooo much for me!

Thanks!

Salem

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

If I were the ex-wife of a man:
(a) known to have previously hidden his children from exes,
(b) who was having his first visit with his son since a MAJOR change in the custody/child support arrangement, and
(c) whose son went missing less than 24 hour after arriving at the father's,
my divorce attorney would be one of the people I would call first too!

Yep! And I have no doubt that her first thought was Mark was hiding him somewhere or taken him somewhere.

 

[Seek&Find]

You're very welcome, Salem. . Thanks for all you do!

(Added thread tag re: vids for our future reference. In Media Thread too.)

 

[Salem]

I was thinking last night, if MR was innocent, why did he not suspect ER from the start, with their history? Why didn't he call her up, screaming that he knew she took Dylan? That would have been a normal reaction, in this particular situation, one would think. Instead he sends her a text, and then is soon talking about Dylan falling into lakes, hanging out at dubious places, talking to strangers, probably being taken out of the area, etc. everything but the obvious idea that the other parent took him (obvious only due to the hostilities). It seemed like he only accused ER much later just to antagonize her. But it seems to me that should have been the first reaction of an innocent parent at war with the ex.

I got the impression, from the very get go, that MR suspected ER. Right from the start and it raised my hinky meter. It is a possibility that I have not discarded yet.

I see 3 really stong possibilities that I cannot rule out so far:

SO picked Dylan up
ER managed to pick Dylan up somehow
MR did something (here there is a list of possibilities, within the theme that MR is responsible).

The transcripts of the Dr. Phil show are reallly eye openers for BOTH sides of the marriage, in my opinion. Both of these parents are good at deflecting and twisting words, in my opinion. It is a bit mind boogling to me. I can't imagine trying to have a conversation with either one of them.

Salem

 

[SCHMAE]

You're very welcome, Salem. . Thanks for all you do!

Those links don't work .

 

[cluciano63]

Yep! And I have no doubt that her first thought was Mark was hiding him somewhere or taken him somewhere.

My point was that if MR is innocent, why wasn't it his first thought that she had taken him? With the animosity between them, and ER maybe not wanting Dylan to go away during this particular holiday, I am surprised he would not call her up accusing her first thing. Instead, he thinks he fell into a lake??

 

[Eileen730]

I saw this and its heartbreaking she may go and never know what happened to Dylan :banghead:

She might become the only one that knows what happend to Dylan!
Maybe he is the one that will meet her.

Just a thought!

 

[sarx]

Someone upthread talked about the fish in the various inlet streams, does anyone remember who or where that info. came from? This info. can help me with the water depths year round. TIA.

 

[Eileen730]

If a parent is going to abduct a child they would go missing also.

I see no benefit of
them HIDING Dylan. Either parent!
If it was the case It would have ended days after when the FBI came in.
It serves no purpose!

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

Someone upthread talked about the fish in the various inlet streams, does anyone remember who or where that info. came from? This info. can help me with the water depths year round. TIA.

That was yesterday afternoon I believe!

 

[SCHMAE]

Someone upthread talked about the fish in the various inlet streams, does anyone remember who or where that info. came from? This info. can help me with the water depths year round. TIA.

I put up a link about fishing there...it was a promo style thing. Come and fish in the rivers of CO type of thing. Does that sound like it ?

 

[SCHMAE]

They work on myiPad, but may be the mobile version. Give me two secs and I'll post a PC version too.

:rocker:

 

[SCHMAE]

SARX . this ?

http://www.vallecitolakechamber.com/Fishing/index.asp

 

[La Louve]

SARX . this ?

http://www.vallecitolakechamber.com/Fishing/index.asp

that's it, and this is the paragraph from that link that you quoted in your post:

"In the wilderness part of the Pine River, you will find exclusively wild fish, particularly trout. In the lower two-thirds of the river you will find rainbows, brookies, browns, and cutthroats. Above Willow Park it is mostly cutthroats and brook trout. Below Flint Creek the average fish is around 8 to 10 inches and trout up to 14 inches are common. The upper Pine is entirely hike-in water."

I remember because I was having trout-fishing envy when I read that

Also this bit from that same link is helpful:

"Best time for fishing is early July to late September."

I keep thinking, it's mid November and Dylan is going to go fishing????? Just doesn't ring true IMHO.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

The thing about sex offenders is most have not been caught, reported, or were never prosecuted. Then you have the ones that absconded. The thing that has always been heavy on my mind in this case is the amount of short term rentals in that area, homeless that have been mentioned and the fact that that it's a recreational area, so it would draw in others for those activities such as hiking, fishing and hunting. Sure there may not have been any previous instances similar to this in the vicinity, but someone can always come into a area at any time that has a past. Someone could also act on their urges at anytime.

Unfortunately, I have been unable to rule out any scenario in my mind. The ones that I feel are least likely are premeditation and that Dylan is being held "against" his will somewhere. Of course, these are just my thoughts and we all have different opinions.

 

[La Louve]

I am new to this case, only after watching the Dr. Phil shows, though I knew of it from being at WS for the Whitney Heichel case.

So if this has been answered somewhere or there is a thread regarding the divorce that someone can point me to, my question is this:

Was the home that MR lives in their family home prior to the divorce? In other words, was Dylan considered a neighborhood kid who now had a different living arrangement? Or was he considered a regular visitor? TIA

From what I have read, it took several days before this was ruled out as being a runaway situation.

My mental wheels are spinning LOL

 

[asyousay]

I am new to this case, only after watching the Dr. Phil shows, though I knew of it from being at WS for the Whitney Heichel case.

So if this has been answered somewhere or there is a thread regarding the divorce that someone can point me to, my question is this:

Was the home that MR lives in their family home prior to the divorce? In other words, was Dylan considered a neighborhood kid who now had a different living arrangement? Or was he considered a regular visitor? TIA

From what I have read, it took several days before this was ruled out as being a runaway situation.

My mental wheels are spinning LOL

No, Mark moved in sometime after the divorce as i think i have seen the house before there was a fire in it and the kitchen got damaged and that is not this house as far as i am aware.