CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #42

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  • #641
I agree. I believe there is NO WAY ER is guilty because:

ER loved Dylan too much;

She had clearly moved on with her life and Dylan was a great part of it;

By all accounts she is sane;

If ER was going to take someone out I don't think Dylan would have been the one, if you catch my drift;

Whether anyone agrees or approves or not ER's language and behavior show a loving, caring mother whose heart has been broken in 2.

I could go on and on but the above are just a few reasons why I KNOW ER had nothing to do with it. :pullhair:

Not to mention that she had just won the custody battle and at the very least just got the child support payments she had been making to MR stopped. So by all accounts she was the winner and she had sole custody of Dylan with MR getting visitation. There is no motive for her whatsoever to disappear or harm her child.

Sometimes things ARE what they seem. Sometimes it IS the obvious. And this is one case where I believe that all of these people (myself included) are not wrong. The writing is on the wall and becoming clearer and clearer. IMO
 
  • #642
Maybe he did ! Maybe that friend is a witness to some HINK!

Let's say T, the kid who lives the closest, got that last text.
DR says come in the morning at 6 and my dad 'll take us down to
R's house together. T shows up at 6 , witnesses some super HINK
and goes back to his car and tells his dad or whoever drove him
and said I saw / heard x y z in the window. Maybe it's not super HINK
enough to call the cops until later ..... when they realize D is missing.
Maybe MR didn't know that DR had txt T and asked him to come by and get
a ride so MR has no clue T was ever at the house that morning or saw
anything. Maybe that's why all DR's friends other than T have been vocal
and public. Hmmmm
This is a straw grasp, I realize !

ETA again, I'm assuming the original plan was to leave about 6 am since the 6:30 plan was pretty well established to be at the friends house. Supposing T or another friend who wanted to go went to the house at 6 and MR's truck is gone and he knocked, no one is home and he assumed he MISSED the ride so he went back home, thinking nothing too weird until later when he hears MR's story of 7:30 etc. MOOOOOO
 
  • #643
But then wouldn't LE be telling us something to the effect that, Dylan was heading to meet a friend and never showed up? Why would they (LE) for three months not say that?

IMO typically when a child goes missing, they give information on their last whereabouts, i.e. Jane Doe left home and was headed to meet her friend Sally Smith so they could walk to school.

Yes and if the friend were T they would be searching within a 5.9 mile radius between the lake and MR's home because most likely that would be where this abduction took place. They would not have been searching between Durango and Vallecito.
 
  • #644
When LE says they are building their case, I believe that is exactly what they are doing and I believe those puzzle pieces have come straight from MR's lies and inconsistencies. The one piece that links it all together will be a body IMO.

JMHO

We have to remember that as of this point there is no proof that Dylan is no longer with us or that a murder even occurred.
 
  • #645
I have every reason to believe he's alive ! :)
I won't give up that belief until FORCED to .
 
  • #646
ETA again, I'm assuming the original plan was to leave about 6 am since the 6:30 plan was pretty well established to be at the friends house. Supposing T or another friend who wanted to go went to the house at 6 and MR's truck is gone and he knocked, no one is home and he assumed he MISSED the ride so he went back home, thinking nothing too weird until later when he hears MR's story of 7:30 etc. MOOOOOO


T lives 6 miles, oops it is not 6 miles, it's 5.9 miles away. would T have left home to walk 5.9 miles in the cold and dark ? how long would it take to walk that distance?
 
  • #647
T lives 6 miles, oops it is not 6 miles, it's 5.9 miles away. would T have left home to walk 5.9 miles in the cold and dark ? how long would it take to walk that distance?

I'm sorry. I was thinking out loud and my post kept growing and changing. T would have had a parent drop him. I'm really sorry I know it was confusing. I might should go back and delete it because it's so rambling. It was just thinking out loud. Maybe T's folks leave for work around then and said I'll drop you .
 
  • #648
T lives 6 miles, oops it is not 6 miles, it's 5.9 miles away. would T have left home to walk 5.9 miles in the cold and dark ? how long would it take to walk that distance?

And not to mention that T's house is on the way to Bayfield so if he wanted to ride in with Dylan it would have been so easy to stop and pick him up on the way.
 
  • #649
From this MSM article, Dylan went fishing with Cory, enjoyed water and camping. It appears Dylan did enjoy the outdoors. Probably more with Cory than his dad. In my opinion, it might not appear feasible Dylan went fishing, but not completely out of the realm of possibilities. Even if it is a 1% chance. To examine the fishing aspect does not mean we have to exclude MR. Not even close!

Snip-

But he prefers being outside throwing the ball to watching it on TV. He likes to snowboard, roller skate and wrestle with his brother and loves anything water-related – from water rides at the amusement park to camping trips by the river.

Many of the things Dylan loves are the same as his brother, Cory, their mother said.

The two would spend a lot of time throwing the football outside and are known to stay up late playing video games. Dylan looks up to his 21-year-old brother, Elaine said.

They went fishing together, but Dylan would quickly become bored and start skipping rocks or swimming in the lake instead. He wouldn’t just grab a fishing pole and head to the lake by himself, his mother said.


http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121215/NEWS01/121219687/A-boy’s-life--


In all the activites mentioned he was always with someone. His brother, friends, family not by himself. He isn't a "loner". jMO
 
  • #650
I'm sorry. I was thinking out loud and my post kept growing and changing. T would have had a parent drop him. I'm really sorry I know it was confusing. I might should go back and delete it because it's so rambling. It was just thinking out loud. Maybe T's folks leave for work around then and said I'll drop you .

But T's house is on the way to Bayfield. Why wouldn't MR just pick him up on the way?
 
  • #651
I think it's pretty obvious that Elaine and Cory think the idea of Dylan setting off to go fishing by himself is pretty absurd.
 
  • #652
In all the activites mentioned he was always with someone. His brother, friends, family not by himself. He isn't a "loner". jMO

I agree. And the theories being tossed around suggest that there is someone he might have had plans with. So they depend on an unknown person who has not come forward.
 
  • #653
But T's house is on the way to Bayfield. Why wouldn't MR just pick him up on the way?

Maybe T's folks were going up the hill for something that morning, who knows. For this theory to work, it is reliant on MR not knowing that DR ever communicated with T , thus the ' secret' 9:37 text. I'm just trying to figure out who that text could be to and why it would be important and what it all means. WE didnt' know until phil show that it was to one of DR's friends, so that has changed my thinking on it a bit.
 
  • #654
Maybe T's folks were going up the hill for something that morning, who knows. For this theory to work, it is reliant on MR not knowing that DR ever communicated with T , thus the ' secret' 9:37 text. I'm just trying to figure out who that text could be to and why it would be important and what it all means. WE didnt' know until phil show that it was to one of DR's friends, so that has changed my thinking on it a bit.

It was not to R. R stated early on that his last communication from Dylan was shortly after 8 pm. (link available upstream)

IMO IF MR did harm Dylan he would be trying to cover his arse.
MR harms Dylan Sunday night shortly after 8pm
MR disposes of the body
MR conjures up the missing fishing pole story
MR sends a text to one of Dylan's friends who lives near the lake saying something like 'hey you want to hang out tomorrow?'

The only friend I've heard mentioned that lives by the lake is T. To my knowledge T and family have never spoken out. Did LE ask them to keep quiet? My guess is yes.

Remember that the story about MR going to T's house the next day changed from 'he hadn't seen Dylan' to 'nobody was home'. I think LE went to T's house to question T and family as to whether or not MR had indeed stopped by to see if Dylan was there and it's likely that they said they weren't even home. Thus the change in MR's story.

MR from day one was suggesting that perhaps Dylan walked to the lake. MR's focus from day one has been

Fishing pole gone (the lake)
The lake
Dylan tried to get to T's house (the lake)

Everything focused around the lake. I think if we went back and watched his interviews and read his statements we'd be shocked at how many times he has mentioned 'the lake'. So is that a diversion or is that because that is likely where Dylan will be found? My guess is the latter.
 
  • #655
What kind of fishing does one do there? Do you use worms or lures? Was there bait or lures missing from MR's house? Also. IMO if DR wen fishing he would have been looking forward to it and have planned and mentioned it to someone he would have texted his buddy and told him that was where he was going. A true fisherman would have gotten up early and planned.
 
  • #656
Not to mention that she had just won the custody battle and at the very least just got the child support payments she had been making to MR stopped. So by all accounts she was the winner and she had sole custody of Dylan with MR getting visitation. There is no motive for her whatsoever to disappear or harm her child.

Sometimes things ARE what they seem. Sometimes it IS the obvious. And this is one case where I believe that all of these people (myself included) are not wrong. The writing is on the wall and becoming clearer and clearer. IMO

But look at it this way!
He got EVERYTHING but Dylan!



Now no one has him, very sad.
 
  • #657
It was not to R. R stated early on that his last communication from Dylan was shortly after 8 pm. (link available upstream)

IMO IF MR did harm Dylan he would be trying to cover his arse.
MR harms Dylan Sunday night shortly after 8pm
MR disposes of the body
MR conjures up the missing fishing pole story
MR sends a text to one of Dylan's friends who lives near the lake saying something like 'hey you want to hang out tomorrow?'

The only friend I've heard mentioned that lives by the lake is T. To my knowledge T and family have never spoken out. Did LE ask them to keep quiet? My guess is yes.

Remember that the story about MR going to T's house the next day changed from 'he hadn't seen Dylan' to 'nobody was home'. I think LE went to T's house to question T and family as to whether or not MR had indeed stopped by to see if Dylan was there and it's likely that they said they weren't even home. Thus the change in MR's story.

MR from day one was suggesting that perhaps Dylan walked to the lake. MR's focus from day one has been

Fishing pole gone (the lake)
The lake
Dylan tried to get to T's house (the lake)

Everything focused around the lake. I think if we went back and watched his interviews and read his statements we'd be shocked at how many times he has mentioned 'the lake'. So is that a diversion or is that because that is likely where Dylan will be found? My guess is the latter.

T could have been gone for the holiday with his family!

and MR has told us pretty much since day one that that the lake is where he is.

He must be sweating bullets by now!

Anyone here think he will take off when they go back to the lake
 
  • #658
Well I'm actually on the fence with regard to the 9:37 text .
Is it significant or not? Could it be LE only didn't release it initially as an
error or oversight and NOT because they were ' withholding' it intentionally?
Because on Phil show when ER mentioned that text, she just blurted it out
with no indication that it was peculiar or important. Phil just glossed over it
and so did she . So is it possible we've gone round and round a billion times
and the txt meant nothing? Maybe he just wrote a friend and said ' im watching
a movie, ttyl' or something very non earth shattering. I tend to feel like a lot of
info hinges on that text, but the other part of me thinks it could have ZERO to
do with anything.
 
  • #659
I don't contribute much because I can't keep up with all the information, but I'll note a couple of things.

Dylan was meeting a friend at 6:30 a.m. instead of the night before. The only reason I could think of them meeting up that early would be that 6:30 is when MR could give him a ride, or 6:30 is a good time to go fishing. My husband and brothers always get up at the crack of stupid to go fishing.

MR said nobody was home at T's house? Maybe T and family stated that they were home and MR was never there.

I didn't know Cory said it was Dylan's fishing pole they found at the dam, but I don't believe Dylan went fishing on his own.

I still think Dylan is in the lake.
 
  • #660
...MR has told us pretty much since day one that that the lake is where he is.

Anyone here think he will take off when they go back to the lake

No. I think he wants them to find Dylan in the lake. I also think that he thinks they will conclude that Dylan fell in and drowned.

The evidence will get him. In the back of my mind is a toddler that went missing. Was found in the river behind the apartment building. Toddler drowned, but had bath water in his lungs.
 
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