CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #42

[Confusion]

I don't post here often, but I scan Dylan's board from time to time. I caught his dads interview on Dr. Phil the other day (which I never watch, but saw by chance) and thought his behavior was really weird.

But by every post I am reading, is he basically the only suspect? Has it been confirmed that he did something to Dylan?

I've been reading through the posts, trying to find a certain answer, but there's just so many pages.

Can someone let me know if he's the only/main suspect?

He's the only one we're allowed to discuss here, other than strangers and/or RSOs.

 

[Seek&Find]

I don't post here often, but I scan Dylan's board from time to time. I caught his dads interview on Dr. Phil the other day (which I never watch, but saw by chance) and thought his behavior was really weird.

But by every post I am reading, is he basically the only suspect? Has it been confirmed that he did something to Dylan?

I've been reading through the posts, trying to find a certain answer, but there's just so many pages.

Can someone let me know if he's the only/main suspect?

LE has stated they have no named suspect and that they're not calling him a suspect. Mark acknowledged on Dr Phil that his violent history is suspicious to LE. Mark has called himself a suspect. His actions, words, inconsistencies, and the fact that he's the last known person to see Dylan draw suspicion. There's a media thread for Dylan, with links, videos, and transcripts in case you haven't seen that yet. The mod posts at the front of the thread may help too.

Moo

 

[sreshowtime]

How do we know MR left the house by himself that morning?or at what time??

How do we know he didn't leave the house , with Dylan, sometime in the night?

 

[Confusion]

How do we know MR left the house by himself that morning?or at what time??

How do we know he didn't leave the house , with Dylan, sometime in the night?

We don't know anything. We each just decide which of his statements we'll believe and go from there. MOO

 

[The Cheese]

I don't post here often, but I scan Dylan's board from time to time. I caught his dads interview on Dr. Phil the other day (which I never watch, but saw by chance) and thought his behavior was really weird.

But by every post I am reading, is he basically the only suspect? Has it been confirmed that he did something to Dylan?

I've been reading through the posts, trying to find a certain answer, but there's just so many pages.

Can someone let me know if he's the only/main suspect?

Mark is not a suspect, nor a person of interest. No one is.

Whereas LE hasn't ruled anyone out or cleared anyone, they recently (via the Dr Phil show about a week ago) conveyed this -

Neither Dylan’s father, Mark Redwine, or mother Elaine Redwine, are considered suspects by the Sheriff’s Department.

and this -

The La Plata County Sheriff's Department has issued the following statement regarding the investigation into Dylan's disappearance:

“The investigation for locating Dylan Redwine is still open, ongoing, and active. We’ve even had investigators from out of state, this week, following up on tips. The frustrating part is that we are not much farther along than where we were early on in the investigation, because of the total lack of clues left behind. It has been a criminal investigation from the first evening Dylan was reported missing. Within the first few days, we were working closely with the FBI and within the first week, we assembled a task force comprised of local, state and federal agencies. This task force is still currently in place and pursuing the investigation. We have not identified anyone as a person of interest or as a suspect during the entire investigation.”

 

[cluciano63]

If LE does not consider MR a suspect and/or POI until they know more, they would be doing a very poor job indeed. Very little of what he has said can be verified, leaving hours and hours of time unaccounted for. And there is absolutely no reason to name him as a suspect as it would serve no purpose at all.

 

[Seek&Find]

Dylan's friend

W** agreed.

“I don’t think he’s one to run away,” he said.

link

Mark

Dylan wouldn't have run away: He was too happy, his father said

link

He said he doesn’t think Dylan ran away.

He has nothing and no one to run away from, Mark Redwine said.

link

My ex-wife and I both agree that Dylan is not the kind of kid that would run away

link

Elaine

“He didn’t go on his own,” Elaine Redwine said...“Dylan wouldn’t have left willingly,”

link

Investigators

The law-enforcement task force canvassing the Vallecito community for clues to the disappearance of 13-year-old Dylan Redwine has discarded the possibility that he ran away Nov. 19 from his father’s home north of the reservoir, La Plata County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Dan Bender said Wednesday.

“There’s a combination of factors,” Bender said. “There’s been the passage of time without any sightings; Dylan was not a visitor but had friends here; he has a history of staying in contact with his family and friends; and there’s been nothing on his cellphone record since he was reported missing.”

link

[ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8609040&postcount=41"]more here[/ame]


So, it appears Dylan's friends, family, and LE all agree that Dylan didn't run away.

(I'd said last night I'd post this today.)
Moo

 

[absentia]

Ok, I'm not talking about SA or Peter H or anything, but I finally heard MR say on the edited show that was aired on Nat'l TV, "Behind the scenes" in Dr Phil part 2. It starts at 35:30, when Dr Phil tells MR that "if you've got info about WHERE THAT BOY IS, you need to tell us" and MR says "behind the scenes", but Dr Phil talks over him and misses it completely. It is completely evident that MR was telling DP that he'd tell him info about DR behind the scenes. Did it ever happen?

not to mention that at 35:55, DP asks MR if he knows where DR is, MR says "no I don't" but is nodding his head.

MR states that "I don't think the polygraph is going to eliminate any of us". that speaks volumes.

from 19:30-20:38 is the poignant part for me. MR is showing all sorts of signs of guilt/discomfort/anxiety/deception. He scratches his neck, looks down, grimances and swallows hard. when DP says "if you are involved". when DP says "if it's worse than that, we do what we have to do" MR grimaces, swallows hard, eyes watery/tearing up, face turning red.

he also says "I'm not afraid of the truth".

this stuff speaks volumes to me.

 

[Dee10]

If LE does not consider MR a suspect and/or POI until they know more, they would be doing a very poor job indeed. Very little of what he has said can be verified, leaving hours and hours of time unaccounted for. And there is absolutely no reason to name him as a suspect as it would serve no purpose at all.

Exactly and we learned from ER that LE is working on getting all the footage from the DP show. JMO but I foresee another (LE) sit-down request for MR & him getting a lawyer or maybe a phone call to DP asking if the shelf life is still good.

 

[Seek&Find]

Mark is not a suspect, nor a person of interest. No one is.

SBM

This is an opinion. Others hold a different opinion. In fact, in the last quote, LE uses the term "identified". Some may see that as they have no idea who would be a suspect. Others see it as in line with their other statements that they are not calling Mark a suspect, no named suspects, etc. As far as POI goes, there's a link here somewhere that explains POI simply means someone LE would like to speak with in regard to an investigation. Given that they interviewed Mark, searched his home several times, administered a poly, have stated there have been no confirmed sightings, speak with Mark every Thurs etc, it seems he qualifies as a POI, IMO.

Unlike "suspect" and "material witness," "person of interest" has no legal definition, but generally refers to someone law enforcement authorities would like to speak with or investigate further in connection with a crime.

link

and more

"The Sheriff's Office is not calling Mark Redwine a suspect," link

According to Mark, "we're all suspects" Blasius

"The bottom line is we’re all suspects regardless of what the law enforcement says" Dr Phil 1

As for evidence:

Investigators say they have a wealth of evidence, but still no leads and no named suspect.

“We have gathered so many little pieces of evidence, it’s kind of like a jigsaw puzzle and now you’re just looking for that one piece to bring everything together,” Bender said. link BBM

Moo

ETA: from nursebeeme's post at front of thread when discussion and sleuthing was opened on MR:

More often than not, we are finding that LE is reluctant to name a POI unless and until an arrest is imminent. However, the actions of LE may often times speak louder than words and for this reason, we are now going to allow discussion about Dylan's father.

So, as has been done before, seems best if we agree to disagree as to Mark's status.

 

[mmmagique]

I asked my son and he said it was a sunglasses smiley although the 3 was weird and not anything he would use. Also I checked Urban Dictionary and B3) doesn't come up as anything.

So I've found that B3 (without the parenthesis) means blah blah blah in the texting world. Could he have been saying that mr was just going on and on and on?

 

[Confusion]

SBM

This is an opinion. Others hold a different opinion. In fact, in the last quote, LE uses the term "identified". Some may see that as they have no idea who would be a suspect. Others see it as in line with their other statements that they are not calling Mark a suspect, no named suspects, etc. As far as POI goes, there's a link here somewhere that explains POI simply means someone LE would like to speak with in regard to an investigation. Given that they interviewed Mark, searched his home several times, administered a poly, have stated there have been no confirmed sightings, speak with Mark every Thurs etc, it seems he qualifies as a POI, IMO.

link

and more

"The Sheriff's Office is not calling Mark Redwine a suspect," link

According to Mark, "we're all suspects" Blasius

"The bottom line is we’re all suspects regardless of what the law enforcement says" Dr Phil 1

As for evidence:

Investigators say they have a wealth of evidence, but still no leads and no named suspect.

“We have gathered so many little pieces of evidence, it’s kind of like a jigsaw puzzle and now you’re just looking for that one piece to bring everything together,” Bender said. link BBM

Moo

No matter how it's worded, LE has said that they do NOT consider MR a suspect. Please don't make me dig up that link again, I really don't think I can right now. They have also searched Elaine's home, checked out their computers, given her a polygraph (and she said they gave "all of them" polys), and they have still not cleared anybody. I'll quit with that. MOO

 

[absentia]

So I've found that B3 (without the parenthesis) means blah blah blah in the texting world. Could he have been saying that mr was just going on and on and on?

or just being his same old self. as usual.

 

[mmmagique]

I have never seen a signature line on texts, but I have on emails. If that was his signature line, it would have shown up on his texts to R, no?

Excellent point!

 

[Seek&Find]

No matter how it's worded, LE has said that they do NOT consider MR a suspect. Please don't make me dig up that link again, I really don't think I can right now. They have also searched Elaine's home, checked out their computers, given her a polygraph (and she said they gave "all of them" polys), and they have still not cleared anybody. I'll quit with that. MOO

The wording is incredibly important, IMO. Of course, Mark failed his poly, then drank himself out of a second one. Seems that'd make one a POI. I don't recall any direct quote from Bender, Shupe, etc stating he's not considered one, but, as noted in these round robin discussions before and at the bottom of my post, agreeing to disagree seems the best course.

Moo

 

[The Cheese]

No matter how it's worded, LE has said that they do NOT consider MR a suspect. Please don't make me dig up that link again, I really don't think I can right now. They have also searched Elaine's home, checked out their computers, given her a polygraph (and she said they gave "all of them" polys), and they have still not cleared anybody. I'll quit with that. MOO

This link? December 3rd, Durango Herald -

the father is not considered a suspect, said Capt. Jim Ezzell, chief investigator with the La Plata County Sheriff's Office

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...Police-reveal-no-new-leads&template=mobileart

 

[Confusion]

This link? December 3rd, Durango Herald -

the father is not considered a suspect, said Capt. Jim Ezzell, chief investigator with the La Plata County Sheriff's Office

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...Police-reveal-no-new-leads&template=mobileart

That would be it. Thanks.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Good thing about that "not considered a suspect" line....kinda like a license for MR to talk, and talk and talk and talk. Seems to be working out well for LE, bwahahahaha!

 

[Dee10]

JMO but the only way we will know if he is indeed a suspect is when he is arrested or they are actually searching for him to be arrested. They don't name/call/identify/consider suspects publicly these days for legal reasons. They sometimes clear people though, however nobody has been cleared. Frankly, I don't need LE to officially tell me if MR is a suspect or not, I watch what LE & key players do and not do, then put it together to form an opinion.

 

[The Cheese]

That would be it. Thanks.

There's this too from the Dr Phil show. This would be the most recent. The link Seek&Find gave above about not naming MR a suspect is from 3 months ago in November.

Neither Dylan’s father, Mark Redwine, or mother Elaine Redwine, are considered suspects by the Sheriff’s Department.

The La Plata County Sheriff's Department has issued the following statement regarding the investigation into Dylan's disappearance:

snip

We have not identified anyone as a person of interest or as a suspect during the entire investigation.