CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #43

[katydid23]

The only thing LE has stated is that MR and ER took polys, and that they won't make further comment about them.

MR has admitted himself that he did not pass. And Bender admitted as much when he responded to MR's accusation that the examiner was inept.

 

[katydid23]

That quote says that Mark hasn't taken a polygraph when we know that he has. Does that mean that Cory is mistaken about that fact?

Or is he talking about an alleged request from LE? Hard to say isn't it? That puts it into the rumor pile in my opinion.

Cory is talking about the RETAKING of the inconclusive test.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

That is my point. I thought that was what we were discussing from the start.:waitasec:

I thought that you said that an attorney needs to know all of the facts of the case from the client. And I said, yes, unless they are guilty. And in that case, it is best they do not share that info with their attorney. Isn't that what we were discussing?

Your not understanding me and I asked to stop the discussion. Please let it rest.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Cory is talking about the RETAKING of the inconclusive test.

Where does he say that?

 

[BeginnersLuck]

These are the responses that I am seeing on the web from attorneys when it is questioned what a client should disclose. This is only two of many sites that I've seen addressing this issue.

http://malislaw.com/blog/?p=182

http://longwelllawyers.com/2011/06/how-much-should-i-tell-my-attorney/

 

[The Cheese]

MR has admitted himself that he did not pass. And Bender admitted as much when he responded to MR's accusation that the examiner was inept.

Salem was asking about what LE has said, and that's what I was responding to.

If you have something from Bender that you feel says LE has asked MR to take a 2nd poly, then I think you should post it.

 

[katydid23]

Where does he say that?

He made that clear on the official Facebook. His Dad's test was inconclusive so he wanted him to retake it, but he stalled, and never actually agreed to do so.

Much like he did on DP.

 

[The Cheese]

He made that clear on the official Facebook. His Dad's test was inconclusive so he wanted him to retake it, but he stalled, and never actually agreed to do so.

Much like he did on DP.

Ah so Cory said HE wanted MR to retake the poly, not LE. That's funny, because my feeling all along has been that it was ER and Cory who wanted MR to take a poly for THEM.

 

[katydid23]

Ah so Cory said HE wanted MR to retake the poly, not LE. That's funny, because my feeling all along has been that it was ER and Cory who wanted MR to take a poly for THEM.

Corey could not actually give his Dad a test. It would obviously be LE doing so.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

I think it's ok for everybody to have their opinions on what they choose to believe that they read or hear.

The facts are though that LE has not released the results of the polys and what they told MR may or may not be true. I personally would prefer to hear it from LE.

 

[The Cheese]

Corey could not actually give his Dad a test. It would obviously be LE doing so.

There are private poly examiners, and of course, there's good old Dr Phil.

 

[katydid23]

These are the responses that I am seeing on the web from attorneys when it is questioned what a client should disclose. This is only two of many sites that I've seen addressing this issue.

http://malislaw.com/blog/?p=182

http://longwelllawyers.com/2011/06/how-much-should-i-tell-my-attorney/

These articles do not address the issue I was speaking of.

 

[The Cheese]

I think it's ok for everybody to have their opinions on what they choose to believe that they read or hear.

The facts are though that LE has not released the results of the polys and what they told MR may or may not be true. I personally would prefer to hear it from LE.

Me too! Things have gotten so screwy I don't trust what anybody says except LE.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

But that doesn't show that LE asked for a 2nd poly. That's the problem. There could be a number of reasons why LE hasn't asked for a poly. Or maybe they did and we just don't know that yet.

Salem

Salem, what do you think. Is it to be considered a fact that Mark Redwine refused to take a second LE qualified polygraph based solely on some comments made by Cory Redwine?

 

[Salem]

Okay, okay - let's not bicker. What we are looking for is confirmation that LE asked MR to take a 2nd poly. So far we haven't seen that. In my opinion, that is worse for MR than if LE had asked for a 2nd poly. To me, that indicates that LE feels there is no reason to try to confirm the results.

But... until we have confirmation, let's let it go. We know that CR & ER want MR to take a 2nd and they were hoping to get it on Dr.Phil, and we know that didn't happen, for whatever reason. So until we hear from LE about a possible 2nd poly, let's let it go.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[Salem]

Salem, what do you think. Is it to be considered a fact that Mark Redwine refused to take a second LE qualified polygraph based solely on some comments made by Cory Redwine?

No, not at this point. The request for a 2nd poly is very important, in my opinion. We want confirmation from LE/MSM about that. It could be a huge clue as to what LE is thinking, depending on how one interprets their behavior..... for me, it bodes ill for MR if they haven't asked for a 2nd.....

Salem

 

[Ronald99]

Good grief, I just spent forever scrolling through all that. I did find them. They were posted by someone else, though on the news channel's FB. Shoot, if all we have to do is post some stuff on an MSM's FB to be able to talk about it here, then I'm all for that. I don't think that's the case though. I'm sure a few hundred of y'all will correct me if I'm wrong about that.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121215/NEWS01/121219687/A-boy’s-life--

Are you wanting to view the posted text messages between Dylan and Ryan ?

If this wasn't what you were seeking, my apologies !!

 

[Salem]

I think it's ok for everybody to have their opinions on what they choose to believe that they read or hear.

The facts are though that LE has not released the results of the polys and what they told MR may or may not be true. I personally would prefer to hear it from LE.

This is true, but MR said that his results were "fail" changed to "inconculsive." Typically you don't say things like that if they are not true. So I think we can take MR's word for it that his results were "fail" change to "inconclusive." MR said it himself. He could have said any number of things - because LE had already stated they were not going to release info on the polys. So... if MR wants to tell, I think we can accept it as fact.

Now... that doesn't mean anyone has to accept it as fact if they don't want too. We all get to interpret it as it best fits for us individually.

Salem

 

[Salem]

Okay - I'm out for the night! You guys behave and don't fight okay? Remember that discussion is good for the brain - even if you don't agree.

Salem

 

[Deleted member 39678]

No, not at this point. The request for a 2nd poly is very important, in my opinion. We want confirmation from LE/MSM about that. It could be a huge clue as to what LE is thinking, depending on how one interprets their behavior..... for me, it bodes ill for MR if they haven't asked for a 2nd.....

Salem

I'm interested in why you feel that a request for a second LE polygraph is significant. For myself it would depend on the first results combined with all of the evidence collected so far.

On top of that, I would look at the reliability of the polygraphs in general before making a decision to do another.

Finally, would the results of a second LE qualified polygraph further the investigation or hinder it?