CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #46

[mck16]

I find this interesting:

"Investigators learned that Mark has said he last saw Dylan at around 7:30 AM Monday, November 19, 2012 at his home in Vallecito when Mark left for Durango to run errands. Investigators have also learned Mark returned home at about 11:30 AM and discovered that Dylan was gone."

The first sentence is clearly based on what MR told them, while the second sentence seems to indicate it is something LE independently confirmed. Anyone else read it that way?

Salem

I do not. Both statements were based on what MR reported. jmo

 

[song22]

I don't think we have ever had a question that it was ER who reported Dylan missing to the La Plata County Sheriff’s Office. She has always said that, and I have not seen anyone question it.

i thought there was some questions about timing though, and after the press release I still have questions about what exactly MR was doing at the marshalls office, ie. Reporting him missing, getting them to send out a well-check as he said in the uncut video, or attempting to ask if they had seen Dylan. It seems posibly significant to me, but I could be wrong. JMO.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

It has been confirmed by Elaine that the last text was from Dylan's phone. So my guess is LE have the pings from Dylans cell phone and know of his location until 9:37 pm

I agree and that makes perfect sense. It also means that we still don't know if Mark had Wi-Fi in his home that Dylan could have attempted to access with his I Pod.

 

[Salem]

I do not. Both statements were based on what MR reported. jmo

You think? This is a bit out there - but it sounds to me like they have independent confirmation of Dylan being at MR's house Sunday night and the time MR returned on Monday morning. Something more than just what MR is telling them. Maybe someone actually saw them come home Sunday night and then saw MR return Monday morning - but didn't see him leave that morning? He does have neighbors so it is possible?

I don't know - just speculating here.

Salem

 

[ColdHands]

The only thing missing from the Press Release was a statement that LPSCO is planning on continuing their search of the lake as soon as weather permits. I hate that Dylan's family has to make those arrangements. :moo:

Oh well, one can't ask for everything at once and overall, I'm pleased to see LE confirming that they are right about where I thought they were on this investigation. Sounds like they really are tying up lose ends and showing exactly where the focus is. :moo:

BBM - I am so glad to see actual information. Having the mail carrier's story outstanding was an issue for me, and this definitely makes me feel like they are covering all bases. I did not have that feeling before so this is a change.

 

[ColdHands]

Now, interestingly,the press release does not discuss the 9:37pm text - could that be considered an "interaction" on Sunday evening?

 

[DylansMom34]

I'm catching up here. I think its very interesting that the press release spells out that Elaine, Cory and Mike were in Colorado Springs when Dylan traveled by himself to Mark's and that they were still in Colorado Springs when Mark notified Elaine that Dylan was missing.

Seems the whereabouts of these members of Dylan's family have been accounted for during the time period in question. MOO

 

[JustJeannie]

I find this interesting:

"Investigators learned that Mark has said he last saw Dylan at around 7:30 AM Monday, November 19, 2012 at his home in Vallecito when Mark left for Durango to run errands. Investigators have also learned Mark returned home at about 11:30 AM and discovered that Dylan was gone."

The first sentence is clearly based on what MR told them, while the second sentence seems to indicate it is something LE independently confirmed. Anyone else read it that way?

Salem

Maybe they can verify that Mark got back home at around 11:30 - someone saw his car pulling in his driveway at that time? - but can't verify that he actually left his house at 7:30. They know that he made his appointments in town that morning, but maybe they don't know for sure that he went there straight from his house at 7:30 that morning. Just a thought...

 

[Dee10]

I believe this is the lst time LE has confirmed this:

"Investigators confirmed that Dylan arrived at Mark’s home on Sunday at about 8:00 PM"

This is another discrepancy since MR has always maintained they got home between 8:15 to 8:30, which has never made sense if they were going through the drive-thr at 7:22 & it was a 45 min. drive.

Also it was very shortly after 8 that Dylan & Ryan were texting.

 

[raine1212]

Now, interestingly,the press release does not discuss the 9:37pm text - could that be considered an "interaction" on Sunday evening?

That is a good possibility, or any interaction IIRC did MR mention throwing the footbal around

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Maybe they can verify that Mark got back home at around 11:30 - someone saw his car pulling in his driveway at that time? - but can't verify that he actually left his house at 7:30. They know that he made his appointments in town that morning, but maybe they don't know for sure that he went there straight from his house at 7:30 that morning. Just a thought...

I would imagine that LE has a pretty good idea of Mark's movements and locations from checking his cell phone pings. MOO.

 

[ColdHands]

At first glance I thought, oh this all points at Mark, but then I reread this

Investigators continue to seek information and evidence from the public to determine whether something happened to Dylan at the home or whether he somehow left the home and something happened to him away from the home.

So this leaves room for both a Mark Did It and a Some One Else Did It scenario. But the word "somehow" makes the second a bit less likely. IMO

 

[AlexisFresca]

I believe this is the lst time LE has confirmed this:

"Investigators confirmed that Dylan arrived at Mark’s home on Sunday at about 8:00 PM"

This is another discrepancy since MR has always maintained they got home between 8:15 to 8:30, which has never made sense if they were going through the drive-thr at 7:22 & it was a 45 min. drive.

Also it was very shortly after 8 that Dylan & Ryan were texting.

Imo, this also confirms that Mark DID have textability at his house. Previously, there had been debate if he had cell coverage at his home or not. So now we know he does!

Somewhere in these threads I had read a post that someone said that the last text oh Dylan's phone is at 9:37, but not sent, and sealed by LE. Has this been confirmed/linked to any articles? Thanks!

 

[JustJeannie]

I would imagine that LE has a pretty good idea of Mark's movements and locations from checking his cell phone pings. MOO.

True, assuming he had his cell phone with him the entire night and next day. And that the battery was in the phone the entire time.

Do we know what kind of cell Mark has? An iPhone cell can't be removed easily, but many other phone batteries can.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Investigators learned that Mark has said he last saw Dylan at around 7:30 AM Monday, November 19, 2012 at his home in Vallecito when Mark left for Durango to run errands. Investigators have also learned Mark returned home at about 11:30 AM and discovered that Dylan was gone.

BBM obviously unconfirmed but is it unconfirmed that MR last saw Dylan at 7:30 and that MR left at 7:30? I would think if they have his cell phone pings they could at least confirm what time MR left home Monday morning.

The Mark returned home part is not worded as 'Mark has said' so it seems like that has been confirmed or semi-confirmed.

 

[raine1212]

Imo, this also confirms that Mark DID have textability at his house. Previously, there had been debate if he had cell coverage at his home or not. So now we know he does!

Somewhere in these threads I had read a post that someone said that the last text oh Dylan's phone is at 9:37, but not sent, and sealed by LE. Has this been confirmed/linked to any articles? Thanks!

IIRC Elaine said on Tricia's show and Dr. Phil it was to his friend.. Now my mind is old so forgive me if I am wrong

 

[Deleted member 39678]

At first glance I thought, oh this all points at Mark, but then I reread this

So this leaves room for both a Mark Did It and a Some One Else Did It scenario. But the word "somehow" makes the second a bit less likely. IMO

I think that LE is leaving it open that someone could have physically removed Dylan from the home or Dylan left on his own and then something happen to him.

They didn't specify any time frame when they think that something happen so it's been left pretty much wide open in my opinion.

 

[fedfan4life]

I am a self-reported grammar nazi, and there is nothing in the Press Release which is poorly written. In fact, I would bet that each-and-every word within the communication was written with very deliberate intention.

 

[Dee10]

Mark said I believe on DP that a samsung cell phone was taken by LE, so since Dylan's phone is missing, I presume this was MR's phone.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

True, assuming he had his cell phone with him the entire night and next day. And that the battery was in the phone the entire time.

Do we know what kind of cell Mark has? An iPhone cell can't be removed easily, but many other phone batteries can.

Mark has said that he tried to text Dylan that morning while he was away from the house. I don't think that he left his phone at home and took his I Pod instead.

LE would have the answer to that one. MOO.