CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #48

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Respectfully snipped for space.

Those are all great thoughts and ones I would gladly entertain, but why didn't Dylan contact someone Monday morning? All communication ceased fairly early on Sunday night (really early depending on who sent the 9:37 text). No cellphone activity, no landline calls, no ipod texts, no Facebook messages, no email, etc. For me, that's a major red flag that something happened Sunday night. All JMO/MOO.
Unless, and this is just me throwing things out there, Dylan 's phone battery died on Sunday, Dylan decided to go to bed and let his phone charge, Mark did not wake him up, the door was not locked, and some weirdo walked in before Mark's first text home. Yes, not on the likely list, especially with all his belongings being missing. That's the one I can't get past, in conjunction with the no electronic communication or land line calls.
 
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Unless, and this is just me throwing things out there, Dylan 's phone battery died on Sunday, Dylan decided to go to bed and let his phone charge, Mark did not wake him up, the door was not locked, and some weirdo walked in before Mark's first text home. Yes, not on the likely list, especially with all his belongings being missing. That's the one I can't get past, in conjunction with the no electronic communication or land line calls.

Plus Mark claimed that Dylan had left a dirty cereal bowl and the TV on Nick. And I think there might have been some evidence of a struggle if Dylan was nabbed by a stranger in the house. :moo:

Oh...and the fishing pole! The weirdo grabbed Dylan, the backpack with all his stuff and the fishing pole. That fishing pole must truly be remarkable! :moo:

I didn't rule out the possibility of a non-familial abduction for a long time, but at this point I just can't get past MR. Too many red flags. All JMO/MOO.
 
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I have had some new thoughts, and wondered what the consensus might be. Let’s suppose, for a moment, that Mark is not guilty of hiding, harming or killing Dylan. Why would he talk the way he does? <SNIP>

Like everybody else, I can only guess about the reasons for his speech pattern (or lack thereof!) To me, it seems like a combination of several things.

The first one is nerves. It seems like people often ramble or just don't talk when they get nervous; he's obviously not the strong, silent type.

He may have problems making himself clear, and is trying to answer questions that might come up before they're asked.

He is probably aware of what people are saying about him, and he may be trying to make himself look better by explaining why he did, or didn't, do something. A lot of his rambling seems to be about things that he has been publicly criticized for.

He may be trying to convince himself that he has been a good father, and that he and Dylan had a good relationship. I would imagine that most people (but not all) would feel guilty if their child ran away because of something they had said or done, had tried hitchhiking to get to a friend's house because he didn't trust them to do it, was taken from their home because they had left him there alone (and maybe left the door unlocked), or even just for having him for a visit when everybody else had wanted him at home.

About 1000 other reasons that I wouldn't put you guys through even if I could think of all of them! MOO

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x28jaeyX2s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x28jaeyX2s[/ame]
 
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Something just occurred to me and I don't remember if anyone discussed it. During the MB interview, when speaking about trying to communicate with Dylan because he wanted to stop at the store and pick up things they needed them for Thanksgiving, Mark said:

"You know, when you drive up here, you don’t want to go to Durango again the next day, so you have to think ahead. You know, you gotta’ make sure you pick up everything you need while you’re in town because it’s a long way to go to Durango or Bayfield to get something you overlooked."

But why would this matter if he planned on taking Dylan to his friend’s in Bayfield that day? He could get whatever he needed then, after talking with Dylan in the car on the way there. It makes me think he had no intention of taking Dylan to Bayfield that day.

I don't think Bayfield has the same types of stores Durango does. I tried to find a full service grocery store listing there a while back, ie City Market (Kroger), Safeway, Albertsons, but I think Bayfield just doesn't have that. So he might run to Bayfield for basics, but most shopping is probably done in Durango.

IMO.

Link to yellowpages.com search for Bayfield grocery stores. http://www.yellowpages.com/bayfield-co/grocery-stores
 
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Plus Mark claimed that Dylan had left a dirty cereal bowl and the TV on Nick. And I think there might have been some evidence of a struggle if Dylan was nabbed by a stranger in the house. :moo:

Oh...and the fishing pole! The weirdo grabbed Dylan, the backpack with all his stuff and the fishing pole. That fishing pole must truly be remarkable! :moo:

I didn't rule out the possibility of a non-familial abduction for a long time, but at this point I just can't get past MR. Too many red flags. All JMO/MOO.
BBM: Blast! You got me with the cereal bowl. Mark could have used my excuse up to that one.....

Do you suppose the fishing pole is like Harry Potter's magical wand? :waitasec:
 
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Seriously hoping they don't find Dylan in the lake. A live Dylan wouldn't be in the lake for 4 months. And I'm still choosing to believe that Dylan is alive. JMO.
 
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IMO it sounds like local speak, Dylan went missing from the Vallecito Lake area, not from Bayfield or Durango etc

DH's exact words, and the much anticipated (given the daily pictorial updates and commentary about how the thaw of the lake is progressing) rov search, IMO indicates she was speaking of the lake itself:

KT: ... They still believe the lake holds the answer.
DH: The lake just seems to be kinda holding us up, because that's where he went missing from.
KT: Hess and others believe there is something in Vallecito Lake. Whether or not it's Dylan, they just don't know. What they do know is that once the snow and ice thaw, they will be able to go back out there again, with more trained teams to search the water.
 
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Does anyone know of the name of the dive team or organization that is coming in to help search the lake underwater? I also wonder how the publicity of this case will affect the summer tourist season in the area...
 
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Toward the end of today's newsclip they did make reference to how the tourist season may be affected - some talk of return visitors not coming back this summer.

http://www.9news.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=2285058579001&odyssey=mod

I don't really understand what Denise meant. She said people in Vallecito are considering not vacationing at the lake. So the people who already live there...aren't going to the lake this summer? I don't think locals are the people who pump the most money into the tourism industry though.
 
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Joseph McIntyre Chief Marshal
Maureen Cleveland Admin Secretary
Dan Cyr Corporal
Dan Abdella Corporal
Paul Pate Deputy
Holly Cashwell Deputy
Derick Campbell Deputy

From Bayfield Marshal's Office website





Quoting myself just to bring this forward since there still seem to be some questions regarding this. According to this 2010 article I found it seems their staff of deputies is not large enough to have someone on duty all the time. At the time of this 2010 article it appears they had 4 deputies and a look at the current deputy list shows they are now down to 3.

Five, counting the two corporals, who are also qualified police officers. They just haven't been there long enough to be promoted in rank.
 
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JMO but I think someone besides MR, knows, saw something, was somehow involved, or was told something.. Doesn't exclude MR..just someone knows JMO.
 
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Here's the part about the dogs not getting any scent hits in January. About 1.25 in the video

In January, they went back to the lake with cadaver dogs to sniff around again. They sliced the ice open but still picked up no scent.


http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=329186
 
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It is really difficult to think of any really "good" outcomes at this point. I don't and never have believed that someone took Dylan for a custodial reason, i.e. out of "love". If he is alive, it is hard to imagine that he is not suffering some terrible fate. And there is no guarantee he would ever be found to be rescued, if this were the case. I can't wish him alive if he is to suffer every hour of his life.

I also do not believe Dylan left the house voluntarily, since he stopped all contact on Sunday. I suppose it is vaguely possible someone familiar to him came by and told him he would give him a ride and that Dylan could use his/her phone (adding in the coincidence of Dylan's phone being broken beyond use) and then instead tied Dylan up or did something to disable him. But it is all too many coincidences for me; his phone ceasing to work, Dylan not being able to use a landline for any purpose, not even to call his mom to get some phone numbers, someone knowing where Mark lived and guessing right that Dylan would be home alone when he was meant to be gone, etc. or even someone just stopping by and on the spur of the moment deciding to kidnap Dylan. It is all too ludicrous to me, when taken in totality. And Dylan venturing out on a chilly morning on foot, when he had a ride coming by lunchtime and had not called R, is also beyond reasonable to me. So with all that, it does not leave me much to work with, as I see zero evidence that he would run away.

But of course, there is nothing to say my feelings are right.

I guess I have followed too many cases, or the wrong ones, to be able to summon up much optimism when a missing person case, children in particular, goes on for months. Yes, there are the few we all know by name who were later found alive, but the reason we know their names is because it is so unusual.

:( I agree with this .

Eta BUT It's probably much easier to say that when it is not your own child. I'm sure when it's your child no fate is worse than never seeing them again.
 
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