CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #49

[Lordeebee]

Absolutely there would have been activity and searching all around the lake at once and LE would probably still be taking the lake as a possibility more seriously. Also, why would they lie about it? That would not help find Dylan.

Yes, I posted on this page the link where LE said the owner of the fishing pole had been found and it was not Dylan's. I was just speculating on whether there could be a reason that LE would not want a perp to know that it really was Dylan's. Even just to confuse him..

 

[Money Girl]

IIRC, MR travels for his job, so I don't think he would have requested full physical custody of Dylan when ER moved to CS.

 

[MissJ]

Lordeebee provided some great links and I included them in this response.



BIU - by me - Thank you Lordeebee for providing the links that indicate that the finding of a fishing pole has been ruled out and that talk of it being identified by Cory is a rumor from an unofficial source. IMO it can all be discounted as rumor. I appreciate the links!

Yes, thank you all.:rocker:

 

[Bayou Mistress]

IIRC, MR travels for his job, so I don't think he would have requested full physical custody of Dylan when ER moved to CS.

I don't imagine that any parent would relish the thought of his/her child moving 300 miles away, especially when the living arrangements prior had both parents residing within the same school district. I don't imagine a 13 year old made that move without some regrets himself, even if he/she was looking forward to new friends, school, and a new home. I think it's a mistake to look at this in black and white or good vs. evil. Most every decision in life carries a down side with the up. Dylan Redwine was looking very forward to seeing his friends in the Vallecito area which was the upside of his Thanksgiving visit.

 

[Kimster]

SUGGESTION: If someone posts and they say it is a rumor, don't comment on it. Rumors are not allowed on Websleuths. By commenting on it, it causes the mods more work and more work means closing the thread to take care of the problem.

:notgood:

 

[Salem]

I'm going to reopen this thread and then I'm going to do some back reading.

Salem

 

[cluciano63]

Yes, I posted on this page the link where LE said the owner of the fishing pole had been found and it was not Dylan's. I was just speculating on whether there could be a reason that LE would not want a perp to know that it really was Dylan's. Even just to confuse him..

I don't believe that would have been the case especially so early on. I really do not believe that LE is (or should) be worrying about tricking perps until they have a victim. Back when the pole was found, I am not even convinced that LE was not still thinking of Dylan as a runaway.

If LE does such "tricks" in cases where they have so little to go on, they are foolish, IMO, and I don't believe LE is foolish. All just JMO.

There are too many cases, again IMO, where it seems as though LE worries more about an imaginary court case somewhere down the road when a victim is still missing. At least that is the reason often given for total silence. I find that just plain wrong. Nothing is more important than finding the missing person. All of the rest comes later. Holly is one example, the young lady is Pueblo, CO another more recent example.

 

[Money Girl]

Agreed that it is frustrating not to have any more news of the search, but they have already stated that it can't be until mid-May so what else can they say?

Who said it can't be until mid-May?

 

[Lordeebee]

Who said it can't be until mid-May?

It was a recent update on FMDR.
https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine?fref=ts

 

[Money Girl]

It was a recent update on FMDR.
https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine?fref=ts

Thank you, Lordeebee. I had just been searching news reports for it.

 

[cluciano63]

Thank you, Lordeebee. I had just been searching news reports for it.

I guess the media probably will not report on searches until they happen, or at least until a definite date and details about the type of search are provided.

 

[margarita25]

Link: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/251948_586597674700173_1669277343_n.jpg

 

[rebeccaeee]

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/fire-rescue/divers-searching-missing-airman-find-body-lake-mead
Not about Dylan but an interesting article about a lake drowning recovery that happened in my town this week. The conditions were extremely windy and yet they still managed to find this fella in 280 feet of murky water in two days. Gives me great hope that if someone is in the lake a good search team will find them.

 

[azgrandma]

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/fire-rescue/divers-searching-missing-airman-find-body-lake-mead
Not about Dylan but an interesting article about a lake drowning recovery that happened in my town this week. The conditions were extremely windy and yet they still managed to find this fella in 280 feet of murky water in two days. Gives me great hope that if someone is in the lake a good search team will find them.

Thanks for the link, it's amazing what they were able to accomplish given all the hurdles they faced!

 

[Bayou Mistress]

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/fire-rescue/divers-searching-missing-airman-find-body-lake-mead
Not about Dylan but an interesting article about a lake drowning recovery that happened in my town this week. The conditions were extremely windy and yet they still managed to find this fella in 280 feet of murky water in two days. Gives me great hope that if someone is in the lake a good search team will find them.

Thanks for sharing that article. It makes me wonder if permission has been granted for an outside search group to use their resources and equipment on Lake Vallecito. And if the search groups have liability insurance. One would hope that these search efforts are being coordinated with LE or whoever has the authority to authorize use of the reservoir for this purpose.

Still wondering what the Dylan Redwine Task Force of LE think of the family-driven searches.

 

[rebeccaeee]

http://www.mynews3.com/mostpopular/...dy-missing-a-year/i1vHwLNB5E2yOR-ZPWowEQ.cspx Another case in Las Vegas highlighting the difficulty of searches on public lands. Keith Goldberg is missing, presumed dead and charges have been filed for his murder. His body, however, remains missing. The search group who wants to conduct an organized search on BLM land cannot without a specific insurance policy. The only obstacle presented here are BLM rules. As you can see, local LE in Las Vegas is not involved/interested in the search nor does the search team need their permission to search. I do not think involving LPCSO is necessary to conducting a search of the lake nor would it automatically provide exemption from BLM rules. Sometimes the obstacles are federal, not local, and sometimes the only obstacle, as FMDR mentioned, is the time it will take for a search team to be available.

 

[ColdHands]

These are great stories, but it really comes down to - what is LE's responsibility here? I tend to feel that based on what I'm aware of in this case, LE should be conducting this springtime search of the lake with specialized teams and equipment, instead of leaving it to the family. IMO.

 

[Bayou Mistress]

http://www.mynews3.com/mostpopular/...dy-missing-a-year/i1vHwLNB5E2yOR-ZPWowEQ.cspx Another case in Las Vegas highlighting the difficulty of searches on public lands. Keith Goldberg is missing, presumed dead and charges have been filed for his murder. His body, however, remains missing. The search group who wants to conduct an organized search on BLM land cannot without a specific insurance policy. The only obstacle presented here are BLM rules. As you can see, local LE in Las Vegas is not involved/interested in the search nor does the search team need their permission to search. I do not think involving LPCSO is necessary to conducting a search of the lake nor would it automatically provide exemption from BLM rules. Sometimes the obstacles are federal, not local, and sometimes the only obstacle, as FMDR mentioned, is the time it will take for a search team to be available.

So, Vallecito Resevoir is part of the San Juan National Forest. That would mean that the divers/sonar people would need a permit and liability insurance to search. FMDR did not mention these issues and I guess I was trying to say I hope they address this with the search teams etc.

 

[Bayou Mistress]

These are great stories, but it really comes down to - what is LE's responsibility here? I tend to feel that based on what I'm aware of in this case, LE should be conducting this springtime search of the lake with specialized teams and equipment, instead of leaving it to the family. IMO.

I very much agree with you and that's why I wonder what exactly they think of the search of the resevoir!

 

[Emma Ems]

You would think if LE has any evidence pointing to Dylan being in the lake they would be searching it or would pick up searches of it again as soon as they could. The fact that they haven't really leaves me with more questions than answers. If they don't plan on searching the lake again, why not? Did they find something to discount the HRD dog alerts that they didn't inform us of? Or what if they do plan on searching the lake again, but want to do it on the down low, would bringing in independent people be considered interfering with a police investigation?