CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #49

[azgrandma]

Schmae - thanks for calling LPSO to let them know they had funds - just kidding of course.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20.../Warming-temperatures-rekindle-Redwine-search

 

[The Cheese]

What profile from Sutter would make you believe that he would snatch a little boy? I'm not defending this low life by any means, IMO there are so many levels of crimes and one does not equal the other. Women get raped & killed but that doesn't mean that every rapist is a killer. Children (sadly) get abused sexually all the time, but the family pedo may never ever touch the neighbor down the street and vice versa. IMO pictures of child is sick enough, but thatat doesn't mean that this guy goes out and kidnaps strangers or kids in the area. He could look at pictures for his own gratification/satisfaction, he could look at pictures and get gratification/satisfaction somewhere else with an adult, he could look at pictures and abuse family members, his own children, his nieces/nephews/cousins etc. It's also vice versa, a person could snatch a child and do horrific things all the while never once looking at a child photo.

IMO - one does not equal the other. This guy IMO is disgusting and I would think that LE is carefully looking at many previous investigations and cases that he may have touched just to make certain that no cases have been compromised based on the knowledge that they now have. I just can't see this being linked to Dylan other than the location.

In my opinion, anyone who collects child is apt to molest a child, and anyone who molests a child is apt to kill a child.

Where there's smoke, there's fire, I suppose.

It's just based on knowledge I've gained in studies and so forth I've read, and observations in cases I've followed, for decades. I have no links to offer.

All just my :cow:

 

[The Cheese]

In reference to my previous post on the proximity of this guy to where Dylan was living in Bayfield, here's the address for Bayfield Middle School

615 East Oak Bayfield, CO 81122

And this from MSM will give you a close idea of where Dylan lived in Bayfield

“We lived off CR 223 for about eight years,” she said

http://www.pinerivertimes.com/news.asp?artid=1091

LPCSO, where he worked, address

742 Turner Dr., Durango, CO 81303

 

[TxLady2]

You're probably right but in a small jurisdiction like this , with little other crime going on, isn't is reasonable to assume anyone who wasn't busy might have helped with this or that ? Maybe one group went out and did the interviews and bring back their info and someone at the office is to sift through and look for red flags or check the alibis via phone or what not. I'm just thinking out loud.

He worked for the sheriff's dept. Not exactly a small jurisdiction.

Normally, it would be the detectives who handle questioning people. Plain officers are not usually involved in investigations, although they may have asked him to talk to the ones in that area just to get an idea where they were in that time period.

 

[Seajay]

I'd like to know if the Redwine family members from Bayfield knew this guy. If Dylan knew this guy. Because if Dylan did, then he probably would have trusted him, being a cop and all. Dylan probably would have felt safe with him. I wonder also if this guys family knew any of the Redwine family. I'm trying to figure out how much of a tie there is between the two families.

 

[Emma Ems]

He worked for the sheriff's dept. Not exactly a small jurisdiction.

Normally, it would be the detectives who handle questioning people. Plain officers are not usually involved in investigations, although they may have asked him to talk to the ones in that area just to get an idea where they were in that time period.

I am kind of with you on that one...that they probably would be used to weed out others. See where they were at the time of the disappearance, gauge reactions to see if any may have acted hinky, while investigators interviewed the RSOs in the area and others they needed to clear.

 

[azgrandma]

I don't know about anyone else, but I think it's great that they are out searching the shoreline. Hopefully they find something that can help them out, fingers & toes crossed.

 

[azgrandma]

I'd like to know if the Redwine family members from Bayfield knew this guy. If Dylan knew this guy. Because if Dylan did, then he probably would have trusted him, being a cop and all. Dylan probably would have felt safe with him. I wonder also if this guys family knew any of the Redwine family. I'm trying to figure out how much of a tie there is between the two families.

IMO - if anyone in the Redwine family from Bayfield knew this guy, we would have heard about it long ago. MR & EH were each assigned an officer as a liaison and to help them out (I believe MR mentioned that in one of the msm reports) I would think that if either of them knew an officer from LPSO or any of the other agencies, they would assign that person to be the liaison from a pure comfort level. I know that EH (from communications, so no link) did not know of him.

 

[Bayou Mistress]

In my opinion, anyone who collects child is apt to molest a child, and anyone who molests a child is apt to kill a child.

Where there's smoke, there's fire, I suppose.

It's just based on knowledge I've gained in studies and so forth I've read, and observations in cases I've followed, for decades. I have no links to offer.

All just my :cow:

You know, I would be more inclined to dismiss Sutter if he was interested in girls. But he had a sexual interest in BOYS. He will remain on my radar until LE says he isn't connected to Dylan's case.

 

[Angelonline]

Interesting data on the link between Child and Sex Abuse
76% of individuals who were arrested for Internet child had molested a child. More at link-

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_child_pornography_and_child_sexual_abuse"]Relationship between child and child sexual abuse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Now molestation is not kidnapping or murder, but it seems that child does lead to progression.

 

[azgrandma]

Interesting data on the link between Child and Sex Abuse
76% of individuals who were arrested for Internet child had molested a child. More at link-

Relationship between child and child sexual abuse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now molestation is not kidnapping or murder, but it seems that child does lead to progression.

Thanks for that link! It was very informative. It says that the Mayo Clinic studies indicate that 30% to 80% of individuals who viewed child and 76% of individuals who were arrested for internet child had molested a child. --- It would be interesting to find out if this so called "officer" had pictures or a pictures from the internet or a combination. Scary when you take into account the number of offenders that are never caught. Yikes!!!

 

[mixologist74]

You know , this gives me a new idea. I was thinking before maybe this deputy was involved but surely they would know by now. BUT people who look at child have to get it somewhere and send it somewhere. They have a network of other child viewers. It's very interesting it's involving boys. So could this deputy have been in charge of interviewing any of the RSO or unknown SO's that he might have KNOWN were into the child as well but didn't interview them too deeply so as not to get them caught and in turn put himself in the limelight ? Run on sentence/question, sorry. Did that make sense?

ETA for clarity. Could the deputy know a perv through his contacts who knows something about Dylan and deputy covered for it because he didn't want his own perversion to become public ?

I believe that this is absolutely a possibility.

 

[mixologist74]

I am absolutely convinced that LE is looking at this guy with Dylan in mind. I can't discount this guy and his proximity raises tons more questions. I'm not certain that perversion regarding children follows a path, although child would seem a gateway into actual actions. <modsnip>

I 100% agree with you. I can't discount this guy either. I hope LE checks into his whereabouts very, very well.

 

[cluciano63]

IMO, it is ridiculous to even think that LE would not have investigated this man in relation to Dylan. Unless one thinks they are completely incompetent.

 

[azgrandma]

IMO, it is ridiculous to even think that LE would not have investigated this man in relation to Dylan. Unless one thinks they are completely incompetent.

I agree!

 

[NC Analyzer]

IMO, it is ridiculous to even think that LE would not have investigated this man in relation to Dylan. Unless one thinks they are completely incompetent.

Absolutely agree, Clu. This would have been done even before the public became aware of the allegations against this cop. Good grief, anyone who doubts this doesn't have any idea how an investigation is conducted.

 

[Emma Ems]

You know, I would be more inclined to dismiss Sutter if he was interested in girls. But he had a sexual interest in BOYS. He will remain on my radar until LE says he isn't connected to Dylan's case.

I agree with everything you stated. Would you think that LE would put something out, a press release, something, to let the public know there is no connection to him and Dylan's disappearance if they have determined that thus far?

 

[Bayou Mistress]

IMO, it is ridiculous to even think that LE would not have investigated this man in relation to Dylan. Unless one thinks they are completely incompetent.

I agree and I didn't see anyone say they thought LE failed in this regard. I did see Mix say that she hopes they looked very closely. I believe they did and that they still are investigating this man as the prosecution builds it's case. What is speculation is whether or not there is a connection to Dylan--either the case of him missing or with his family.

 

[azgrandma]

I agree with everything you stated. Would you think that LE would put something out, a press release, something, to let the public know there is no connection to him and Dylan's disappearance if they have determined that thus far?

Why would they make a press release saying he has no connection? They wouldn't make a press release saying he has no connection in any of the other unsolved La Plata County crimes so why this one?

 

[mixologist74]

IMO, it is ridiculous to even think that LE would not have investigated this man in relation to Dylan. Unless one thinks they are completely incompetent.

It's ridiculous to think that they aren't still investigating him. They could very well be.