CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #49

[Ghostwheel]

I didn't even try to interpret anything. If someone misinterpreted, it was the reporter who wrote it. My entire post was copy pasted from the news article.

My apologies. You were using italics for the quote. I was expecting quotation marks or a quote box for a quote....never assume.....

 

[The Cheese]

My apologies. You were using italics for the quote. I was expecting quotation marks or a quote box for a quote....never assume.....

I had no idea we were supposed to use quote marks or a quote box when posting news articles. I've only rarely seen them used. I'll start using quote boxes then.

 

[Money Girl]

Did LE perform any searches today?

 

[Seajay]

For myself, I know and have known for a long time that just because LE isn't giving PL every week, it doesn't mean they aren't working a case. It takes time and most of it is behind the scenes. They only tell us what we need to know or if in some way they need the public's help. Other than that it's business as usual. I have a lot of LE in my life so I know how this works. I wasn't a bit concerned during the silence of La Plata County LE. I have trust and faith in that they know what they are doing.

And they will find Dylan eventually. Maybe not in our time frame but in their own. IMO.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

This got me thinking. An AMBER ALERT is a request for help. LE is asking people in Vallecito for help. Yeah, when one asks for help----one should be prepared for the questions that come with it. That goes for LE and for the families of the missing. The public didn't make this crime public.....journalists didn't either.

an AMBER ALERT has set criteria/restrictions that apply. such as Child, Suspect and Vehicle.

the following page is specific to Colorado AMBER ALERTS http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDPS-CBIInvestigations/CBON/1251621993529



No AMBER ALERT was issued for Dylan.

'Dylan Redwine is listed as endangered missing, but an Amber Alert has not been issued.'

http://missingpersonsnews.com/dylan-redwine-missing-from-vallecito-colorado/

 

[Emma Ems]

So, now that LE has said they have been out there as many times as they have, do you think they will end up diving again?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

This got me thinking. An AMBER ALERT is a request for help. LE is asking people in Vallecito for help. Yeah, when one asks for help----one should be prepared for the questions that come with it. That goes for LE and for the families of the missing. The public didn't make this crime public.....journalists didn't either.

BBM

Here's a link showing that LE asked for the public's help early in this case.

Dylan Redwine Task Force asking for help from public in criminal investigation


http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...or-help-from-public-in-criminal-investigation

 

[Deleted member 39678]

So, now that LE has said they have been out there as many times as they have, do you think they will end up diving again?

If any of the areas that HRD dogs alerted to are underwater it would be a good idea to dive and check it out. MOO.

 

[Money Girl]

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/search-for-dylan-redwine-shifts-to-lake

Video included from Wed. search

 

[Emma Ems]

If any of the areas that HRD dogs alerted to are underwater it would be a good idea to dive and check it out. MOO.

My opinion is, despite what they said about going back out earlier, I think they may very well end up going back in at some point.

 

[azgrandma]

an AMBER ALERT has set criteria/restrictions that apply. such as Child, Suspect and Vehicle.



No AMBER ALERT was issued for Dylan.

'Dylan Redwine is listed as endangered missing, but an Amber Alert has not been issued.'

http://missingpersonsnews.com/dylan-redwine-missing-from-vallecito-colorado/

The criteria is pretty strick for Amber Alerts as you mentioned. Dylan didn't come close to meeting the criteria. Had LPSO had any information on a suspect, vehicle, anything at all then it could possibly be looked at as an abduction. 5 months into it and still nothing other than a strong look at MR. Perhaps that is why their last press release was asking for information on his and Dylans activities Sunday and Monday.

 

[cluciano63]

I guess I am too cynical. In the cases I have been following in recents years (missing persons) silence from the police has not been a fair indicator of progress. Even knowing the police are working hard does not seem to guarantee any success in these cases. Missing person cases are unlike any other kind. I think LE is mostly silent and "secretive" by nature, perhaps even when it might serve them better to be more open.

I only say this after waiting and watching for up to four years on some other cases here where LE is mostly silent. They may still be investigating, but apparently have not made much progress. And since it is often the public who finds a missing person by chance, if they are found at all, maybe a new approach to these cases would be fruitful.

With LE searching and re-searching, interviewing and re-interviewing, that could be taken as still having nothing to move forward with, as much as being thorough.

JMO of course

 

[The Cheese]

There's a video and photos of the search with this news article. ETA. The depth of the water can more clearly be seen in the video. The coffer is fully set up, and there's a man standing at the far end. The water comes up almost to his thighs.

Dan Bender, spokesman for the La Plata County Sheriff's Office, said search teams returned to the reservoir earlier this week and that cadaver dogs picked up on a scent. While cadaver dogs have picked up scents in that area many times during this search, no evidence of Dylan has been found.

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Sky News 13 flew over the search site Wednesday and spotted divers in small 20-by-10-foot area that was sectioned off by a cofferdam. The area was being pumped so that searchers could get a better look.

Other searchers were digging nearby in the sand

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/search-for-dylan-redwine-shifts-to-lake

 

[azgrandma]

I guess I am too cynical. In the cases I have been following in recents years (missing persons) silence from the police has not been a fair indicator of progress. Even knowing the police are working hard does not seem to guarantee any success in these cases. Missing person cases are unlike any other kind. I think LE is mostly silent and "secretive" by nature, perhaps even when it might serve them better to be more open.

I only say this after waiting and watching for up to four years on some other cases here where LE is mostly silent. They may still be investigating, but apparently have not made much progress. And since it is often the public who finds a missing person by chance, if they are found at all, maybe a new approach to these cases would be fruitful.

With LE searching and re-searching, interviewing and re-interviewing, that could be taken as still having nothing to move forward with, as much as being thorough.

JMO of course

I agree with you, it's very sad that we can't really say - no news is good news. Your comment, withthe reality of it and potential of where this can go, along with the video or the search has pretty much broken my heart for the day.

 

[azgrandma]

duplicate post - sorry

 

[The Cheese]

link for pics http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/search-for-dylan-redwine-shifts-to-lake

 

[Bayou Mistress]

The criteria is pretty strick for Amber Alerts as you mentioned. Dylan didn't come close to meeting the criteria. Had LPSO had any information on a suspect, vehicle, anything at all then it could possibly be looked at as an abduction. 5 months into it and still nothing other than a strong look at MR. Perhaps that is why their last press release was asking for information on his and Dylans activities Sunday and Monday.

I agree that the amber alert criteria is strict. West Virginia is in the process of changing the criteria for alerts after the disappearance (and then discovery of her murdered body) of Sklyar Neese. It's my understanding that other states are looking at enacting similar legislation. A missing child is endangered, no matter and the folly of LE acting slowly in cases labeled as "runaways" has led to ineffective and sometimes disastrous delays in efforts at finding a missing child. I now know that no amber alert was issued for Dylan...but there should have been. Assistance was requested by LE and the family to help find Dylan.

 

[cluciano63]

I agree with you, it's very sad that we can't really say - no news is good news. Your comment, withthe reality of it and potential of where this can go, along with the video or the search has pretty much broken my heart for the day.

Not my intention at all. I'm sorry. But I have become attached to many of these cases over the years and my frustration is with the way LE handles them. It is like when in doubt, keep silent. And meanwhile, kids are missing. I think the cases need to be front and center and in the public's face every day in the communities affected. Not just an article now and then.

 

[ColdHands]

That dammed area doesn't look that big to clear and the spot where they're digging seems random - not marked off or anything. They seem to be looking for little things in the sand, at least IMO. And interesting that they didn't bring any dogs with them again.

Sigh, wish I could be a fly on the wall - peer into the brains of these investigators.

 

[The Cheese]

Jordyn Dahl ‏@Jordyn_Dahl 3h Durango Herald

Investigators will be back at Vallecito Reservoir tmrw to clean up sandbags and black tarps used for dam in search for #DylanRedwine clues