CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #5

[Tennlyn]

You're not alone, Lotus. He strikes me as apathetic.

I wouldn't say apathetic. He strikes me as someone who must maintain control.

 

[katydid23]

So Dad nudged Dylan and told him if he needed anything to call. At this point Dad knew Dylan was not meeting the friends and expected him to be home when he got home? So when did Dad go to the friends house where he thought Dylan would be? I guess what I'm asking is did Dad go home to find Dylan gone then headed back to Bayfield or did he try to call Dylan and no answer so he headed to the friends home directly from running his errands? At what point did Dad go to the friends house? Anyone know?

Early on I read that Dad went to the home where he expected Dylan to be. Why would he expect him to be there and how did he expect him to get there?

According to the family FB page, Dad went to the friends house at 4:15 and said ' where is Dylan.' He knew since 11:30 that Dylan was not home. So I wonder the same thing. How did he think Dylan got to his friends? And why didnt he go earlier or call them to find out if Dylan was even there? I wonder if he called Dylan's cell to ask him where he was?

 

[Linda7NJ]

The LaPlata sheriff's office is not behaving like Jefferson County's sheriff's office did when precious Jessica Ridgeway went missing. Within 72 hours we knew a monster was out there.

What does not make sense is that the divorce is from 5 years ago and any rage should be long gone. In addition, the moving parent must pay costs for visitation. I pay $220 per month for that in Colorado. Even if the parenting time plan was re-done and MR's time got below the magic number of 93 overnights, the visitation costs would've negated any increase in child support. In addition, my bet the Mom's new job was a substantial increase in salary (state Fort Lewis College versus elite private Colorado College) and it could be that MR got a reduction is cs through that. Even if he paid any cs. I know Moms who pay cs because they have the better job.

There should've been no rage about money. There should be no rage about the divorce because that fury was five years ago. There should be no rage about lack of parenting time because the Mom stated MR did not exercise all of his decreed parenting time and a poster at a news site stated MR worked away from home a lot in the O&G fields.

There should be no unhappiness about changing houses because Dylan had done that for five years. There should've been excitement about seeing childhood friends. I put no weight in the scowl emoticon because a child can do that to please the other parent.

Nothing makes sense.

Yet mom has lots of animosity. She was the victor in the custody war which ended in September. Dad did go to his lawyer. So all was not over and rosey




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['Ailina]

I wouldn't say apathetic. He strikes me as someone who must maintain control.

Maybe "indifferent" is a better-suited word.

He has seemed more passionate in his statements about LE than he has the statements about Dylan.

And I agree with you re: control. I don't think apathy/indifference and a need for control are mutually exclusive. I think dad just associates them with different concerns.

 

[scorekeeper]

The task force concluded its door-to-door canvassing that began Tuesday and have shifted its focus to following up on leads and evidence.

"Until we put together any leads or information that leads us in a certain direction, most work is going to take place internally," he said.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/probe-into-missing-dylan-redwine-now-a-criminal-investigation

BBM

hmmm.....evidence??

 

[Ransom]

Yeah I just looked there vacation for Thanksgiving was the start of the 19th....so no children were in school.

http://bayfield.k12.co.us/static/cms_page_media/2/BSD 2012-13 Academic Calendar_1.pdf

Well I'll be no school huh!! lol. I've posted that link twice already. Glad someone read it. lol

 

[AlexisFresca]

The LaPlata sheriff's office is not behaving like Jefferson County's sheriff's office did when precious Jessica Ridgeway went missing. Within 72 hours we knew a monster was out there.

What does not make sense is that the divorce is from 5 years ago and any rage should be long gone. In addition, the moving parent must pay costs for visitation. I pay $220 per month for that in Colorado. Even if the parenting time plan was re-done and MR's time got below the magic number of 93 overnights, the visitation costs would've negated any increase in child support. In addition, my bet the Mom's new job was a substantial increase in salary (state Fort Lewis College versus elite private Colorado College) and it could be that MR got a reduction is cs through that. Even if he paid any cs. I know Moms who pay cs because they have the better job.

There should've been no rage about money. There should be no rage about the divorce because that fury was five years ago. There should be no rage about lack of parenting time because the Mom stated MR did not exercise all of his decreed parenting time and a poster at a news site stated MR worked away from home a lot in the O&G fields.

There should be no unhappiness about changing houses because Dylan had done that for five years. There should've been excitement about seeing childhood friends. I put no weight in the scowl emoticon because a child can do that to please the other parent.

Nothing makes sense.

Unless he didn't want the divorce and didn't know how to let go. There could be other things that haven't surfaced yet about this family that might shed light on that.

Thinking back, when Steve Powell divorced Josh Powell's mom (her name escapes me at the moment, sorry) he drug out the divorce and custody battle for 11 years!!! Just something to think about.

 

[Seajay]

I'm looking forward to an arrest, but unfortunately, I think it will come once a body is found. IMO, JMO, MOO.

 

[katydid23]

Well in all fairness, who among us wouldn't be?

Remember Mark Lunsford ? He and his parents were dragged through the mud. It was even reported that little Jessica's grandmothers' polygraph was "inconclusive" and Fox News was reporting she failed the poly.

Elizabeth's Smarts dad was also.


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But neither Lunsford nor Smart came off as detached or dispassionate. I never suspected Mark Lunsford but I have to admit I had suspicions about his father.
It was hard to believe someone could have snuck inside in the middle of the night like that. Jessica' L's case still haunts me to this day. :rose: BlessHerHeart.

For me personally it is the specific circumstances and details of this sad case that are making me look twice at Dad. Not his persona or his voice, or even his use of the past tense. Just the timing of events and the way it unfolded, seemed to point towards him.

 

[scorekeeper]

Well I'll be no school huh!! lol. I've posted that link twice already. Glad someone read it. lol

I read it the first time you posted it :blushing::blushing:

 

[AlexisFresca]

According to the family FB page, Dad went to the friends house at 4:15 and said ' where is Dylan.' He knew since 11:30 that Dylan was not home. So I wonder the same thing. How did he think Dylan got to his friends? And why didnt he go earlier or call them to find out if Dylan was even there? I wonder if he called Dylan's cell to ask him where he was?

Yes! Why wait 5 hours to go see if your son found a way to get to his friends' house? He could have called or gone there right away. Where did he go locally for almost 5 hours before that? :waitasec:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Whatever else is going on, it is clear (to me, anyway) that LE seems unable to verify Dad's story.

In Jessica's case, they were pretty quick to state very clearly that her parents were both ruled out.

That is another jurisdiction though and each jurisdiction has their own way of doing things. They may never come out publicly and eliminate him just like other parents had to twist in the wind until an arrest was made of the real suspect.

I saw where they have confirmed his alibi of where he said he went that morning.

It may have been from Sgt. Bender when he was on NGs show the other night. Yes, I believe that is where I read it....in the transcripts of the show since I dont watch NG anymore and havent in years.

IMO

 

[scorekeeper]

I wouldn't say apathetic. He strikes me as someone who must maintain control.

kinda' like sitting on your hands??? :what::what: :floorlaugh:

 

[katydid23]

The task force concluded its door-to-door canvassing that began Tuesday and have shifted its focus to following up on leads and evidence.

"Until we put together any leads or information that leads us in a certain direction, most work is going to take place internally," he said.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/probe-into-missing-dylan-redwine-now-a-criminal-investigation

BBM

hmmm.....evidence??

Sounds to me like they think they have some 'internal' data to sort through.

 

[cattlekate]

Thinking about the fishing pole a bit, since LE just searched the house and let's pretend a fishing pole was never ever brought up in the scenario by MR, would LE even know that a fishing pole was missing on their own? Let alone that it was Dylan's? Unless dad has a 'fishing pole holder' in the garage with labels as to who's pole belongs to who, honestly, would they even know if a fishing pole was missing or not?

My first thought. However, an earlier poster mentioned the sheriff's office could've planted the seed, and MR would've looked and maybe thought one was missing. Our fishing poles are in pieces in the basement and it's hard to tell if one is missing or not, as we have quite a few (lake versus creek, fly versus casting).

One thing about mountain lions - they are not stressed in Durango, like they are on the Front Range of Colorado. We live on the Front Range and have a lair 0.6 miles from my house. It has collars from cats and dogs according to the ranger. The wildlife biologists know exactly where the lairs are. The lair by my house has been there over a decade, and the two times my kids have seen the cat, it padded away up the trail or got up from its sandstone rock, glared, and darted away. They go after small domestic animals if they can't get a bunny. But not teens.

 

[scorekeeper]

Yes! Why wait 5 hours to go see if your son found a way to get to his friends' house? He could have called or gone there right away. Where did he go locally for almost 5 hours before that? :waitasec:

i believe dad thought he had gone fishin' and would be back in a bit

 

[Linda7NJ]

Unfortunately, we don't have the ability to hear his 911 call to LE and have no idea what he told them. LE can only begin their starting point based on what MR tells them initially.

MR saw the friends before they were interviewed by LE and they were the ones who mentioned hitchhiking. Did he put that idea into their minds or is that actual fact?

Another thing that bothers me, is that when ER wondered if MR did something to 'remove Dylan from the situation' he said she was 'making more of it than need be'. Really? Her son is missing - YOUR son is missing, MR! This is not a misplaced ipod that can resurface when you least expect it.

The family tried to text him and he would not respond. Media tried to contact him and his phone rang and rang and rang. He never complained to the media until now he felt LE was going about it all wrong.

We just don't know because we only have his version of what he tells us. We don't know what was said or done 'behind the scenes' outside talking to LE, like the errands and so on. We only have his word and nothing else to support it either way.

:sigh:


p.s. btw, anyone else find it interesting he hasn't said things like, 'if only I had just made him go with me', 'if only i had this' or 'of only i had that' and so on then he would still be here and not missing.

Speaking from my own personal experience, I only played the "if only" game when I was alone. I stayed on auto pilot through much of the police interviews. Honestly, I was on auto pilot for a few months. I had to hold it together. It wasn't till things calmed waaaay down that I totally broke down. Thankfully the district attorney told me on day one to keep a diary and document everything. When something so traumatic happens you'd be surprised at the huge gaps in memory even a year later,

( my child was not abducted or missing, he was the victim of a violent crime)


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[tiredblondy]

According to the family FB page, Dad went to the friends house at 4:15 and said ' where is Dylan.' He knew since 11:30 that Dylan was not home. So I wonder the same thing. How did he think Dylan got to his friends? And why didnt he go earlier or call them to find out if Dylan was even there? I wonder if he called Dylan's cell to ask him where he was?

I guess he assumed the friends picked him up and Dylan was with them. I can't tell you how many times I heard my children making plans and assumed that's what they were doing only to find out later plans had changed and who did they not tell- Me.

I left my son at the school once because I thought he was coming home with someone else. Imagine my embarrassment when someone brought him home and he was furious with me for leaving him.

I can see Dad returning, seeing the fishing pole gone and thinking his friends had come to pick him up. I would have assumed the same thing.

I can also see Dylan waking up and thinking I'll just go on now and not wait for Dad to get home. Taking his backpack, fishing pole and walking out the door thinking he can hitch a ride if he needs to. That is where I see the danger.

I don't know if this man had anything to do with Dylan's disappearance or not but if he stays quiet he's wrong and if he's talking he's wrong. I've sensed some emotion in his voice.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yes! Why wait 5 hours to go see if your son found a way to get to his friends' house? He could have called or gone there right away. Where did he go locally for almost 5 hours before that? :waitasec:

I thought he showed up at the friends house around 3 that afternoon. He probably thought he was closer to home hanging out with some of his other friends and may have thought the kids he had planned to visit lived too far away. Then he may have started thinking that Dylan may have walked there or hitched a ride with someone.

He said he canvassed the neighborhood looking for Dylan before he called LE.

A lot of parents have done the same thing at first when they find their child missing. Dylan may have had a habit of going down the road somewhere to kids houses that he knew and his dad may have thought he would be back shortly.

I have found that fathers arent as excitable as moms are anyway. They will try to weigh the situation reasonably and think their child will come back soon and has just gone to a friends house. Imo, they dont freak immediately thinking something bad has happened.

IMO

 

[scorekeeper]

That is another jurisdiction though and each jurisdiction has their own way of doing things. They may never come out publicly and eliminate him just like other parents had to twist in the wind until an arrest was made of the real suspect.

I saw where they have confirmed his alibi of where he said he went that morning.

It may have been from Sgt. Bender when he was on NGs show the other night. Yes, I believe that is where I read it....in the transcripts of the show since I dont watch NG anymore and havent in years.

IMO

yes, but what about from the time Dylan was picked up at the airport until 7:30 am (12+ hours)....then from 11:30 until he reported him "missing" around 6:00 pm (another 6 hours)

it seems LE is trying to confirm if Dylan even made it to dad's house. We have not even heard if the dogs found his scent at the house...

Yes, I believe somebody is "twisting in the wind" and we may know fairly soon (I hope for Dylan and his family).