CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #50

[Emma Ems]

Going with this theory, Deputy Sutter would have a difficult time hiding Dylan while in jail. IMO.

I do not believe Sutter was in jail at the time Dylan went missing. In fact Sutter was not in jail for very long, IIRC correctly he bonded out very soon after he was arrested.

 

[Crosby87]

Mark has been interviewed several times. Why didn’t anyone ask him why he believes Dylan didn’t use his phone on Monday to contact his friends after he got up?

 

[Seajay]

I do not believe Sutter was in jail at the time Dylan went missing. In fact Sutter was not in jail for very long, IIRC correctly he bonded out very soon after he was arrested.

Sutter wasn't arrested for MONTHS after Dylan disappeared. He was only arrested last month. Dylan has been missing 5 1/2 months. Sutter was out and definitely could have had a hand in Dylan's disappearance.

Like you, I'm so glad that LE looks at different avenues, different scenerios of what could have happened and don't get stuck on the first one that crosses their minds. I'd say LE is overpaid if they did because they really wouldn't be doing their job at all. As it is, it's a detriment to the investigation if they need the public's help for anything, because who would bother if they thought the case was already solved??? JMO, MOO, IMO.

 

[Elley Mae]

I have not been here for a bit, this one bothers me. Poor Dylan. But I am reading again that Mark said, Dylan was watching Nickelodeon, isn't that a channel and not a show? Just sounds weird to say. It has bothered me enough to say it. Now I feel better.

 

[TxLady2]

Nickelodeon is actually a network with several channels. I don't know how many there are in total, but between Nick and the Disney channels, there are about 10 or 12 channels geared to children, anywhere from toddlers to teens.

 

[Tennlyn]

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=DNR

Praying that this will be the week Dylan is found.

 

[The Cheese]

Mark has been interviewed several times. Why didn’t anyone ask him why he believes Dylan didn’t use his phone on Monday to contact his friends after he got up?

Maybe he knows that Dylan made a call to someone from the landline, or received a call from someone, that morning, but LE has asked him not to reveal it. Or Mark may not know that Dylan made or received a landline call. I think local landline calls aren't listed on your bill - just long distance. Just speculating.

A call by Dylan from the landline Sunday night or Monday night morning, or Dylan answering the landline, would also verify that Dylan had made it to the house.

LE's press release about the 9:37 communication addressed specifically only texting - not voice calls.

Elaine wouldn't know about voice calls to or from Mark's landline like she did with Dylan's cell phone record, because Dylan's cell was her account, and I doubt Mark's landline is.

LE has only talked about activity on Dylan's cell phone. They've never addressed any possible voice activity on Mark's landline. When NG asked Bender about it, he said he didn't have that info. When LE has mentioned communication to or from Dylan they just say he hasn't been heard from "since he went missing" and "since he was reported missing" and "since he disappeared", and they've never given the time they consider that happened to pinpoint Dylan's last communication of any kind - just texting.

I've asked many times if anyone knew of LE saying something that would rule out landline communication from or to Dylan on Sunday night or Monday morning, but no one has come up with anything.

I wish LE would address it in a press release or interview, because it continues to make me crazy not knowing.

If that was answered, I would put more weight onto lack of communication after 9:37 Sunday and on Monday morning, but I can't do that without something from LE stating that Dylan had no communication of any kind to include that landline after 9:37. Until LE states that, it remains an open question, and an open possibility for me.

The links for this post:

Deputies have released an update timeline about Dylan’s activities on Sunday, November 18:

5:46 p.m. Dylan arrived at Durango-La Plata airport.
7:05 p.m. Dylan at Durango Walmart
7:22 p.m. Dylan at Durango McDonalds
9:37 p.m. Dylan’s last electronic device communication (texting)

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...3-year-old-dylan-redwine-in-durango-vallecito

GRACE: OK. So his whereabouts are accounted for. Question. Sergeant, was there any activity on the home telephone or the computer while Dad was gone?

BENDER: Those are things that the investigators have looked into, and I don`t have that information.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1211/28/ng.01.html

 

[Lordeebee]

I don't get it. Why would LE ask MR to keep quiet about calls Dylan would have made the next day?

 

[The Cheese]

I don't get it. Why would LE ask MR to keep quiet about calls Dylan would have made the next day?

For the same reason they went so long without saying anything about the 9:37 text - they don't want certain info released to the public until they're ready to, sometimes not even until trial.

It's common for LE to keep information confidential, and ask others who are aware of it to do the same.

:cow:

 

[Cherry]

So do most of the board members feel that he is deceased or do some hold out hope that the father has stashed him somewhere with a friend or a family member...or something like that. Why Kill him? He just lost him. This could be good news; and hopeful news that he is alive not deceased. If he lost him forever; (basically) in custody and by living so far apart, why kill him? I need better Motivation in this case. To understand or think him dead at this point. Like in Kyron's case.

 

[Emma Ems]

So do most of the board members feel that he is deceased or do some hold out hope that the father has stashed him somewhere with a friend or a family member...or something like that. Why Kill him? He just lost him. This could be good news; and hopeful news that he is alive not deceased. If he lost him forever; (basically) in custody and by living so far apart, why kill him? I need better Motivation in this case. To understand or think him dead at this point. Like in Kyron's case.

I think the very best we can hope for in this situation is that one of his parents has him stashed somewhere, if that isn't the case I am not sure which to hope for because I am uncertain which is worse. I personally would not want to taken, held hostage, and used as a "sex slave" to some perv and I feel that if in that situation I would wish for death, but that's me. I would never want that type of fate for a child at ALL. At this point in time I feel it's completely impossible to rule any number of possibilities out. There is not enough information presented for me to jump on board with ONE theory alone.

 

[Lordeebee]

For the same reason they went so long without saying anything about the 9:37 text - they don't want certain info released to the public until they're ready to, sometimes not even until trial.

It's common for LE to keep information confidential, and ask others who are aware of it to do the same.

:cow:

I don't see how its the same thing. The 9:37 text was letting us (and maybe the purp) know when Dylan was last heard from (at least texting- I get you were discussing the possibility of some other form of communication- although Imo it was to let us know when Dylan ceased communicating in any way).

But if Dylan talked to someone the next day, I would guess LE knows who he was talking to and this would be a major suspect since it would be the last person he ever spoke with! So this person would be either checked out thoroughly or arrested by now one would think. Mark himself said he tried but couldn't reach Dylan the next day!

 

[The Cheese]

I don't see how its the same thing. The 9:37 text was letting us (and maybe the purp) know when Dylan was last heard from (at least texting- I get you were discussing the possibility of some other form of communication- although Imo it was to let us know when Dylan ceased communicating in any way).

But if Dylan talked to someone the next day, I would guess LE knows who he was talking to and this would be a major suspect since it would be the last person he ever spoke with! So this person would be either checked out thoroughly or arrested by now one would think. Mark himself said he tried but couldn't reach Dylan the next day!

Believe me, Lordeebee, I wish I could get this settled in my own mind, but I can't until LE rules it out. I really wish they would say something. Maybe next press release.

 

[Lordeebee]

Believe me, Lordeebee, I wish I could get this settled in my own mind, but I can't until LE rules it out. I really wish they would say something. Maybe next press release.

Maybe if we all meditate and chant, "press release, press release...":rolling:

 

[neverletgo]

Maybe if we all meditate and chant, "press release, press release...":rolling:

It'll be 6 months soon . . . I really hope we get one. lease: Or better yet, DYLAN HIMSELF!

 

[Crosby87]

If there’s proof Dylan used Mark’s landline phone and/or computer on Monday you’d think Mark would want the public to know because it would prove Dylan was alive after Mark left; however, afaik, he wasn’t asked this crucial question during any of his interviews.

If Dylan’s fingerprints were on the video he watched Sunday evening, and they should be since he brought the DVD player downstairs, that’s all it would take to convince me that he made it to his father’s place.

Even if someone else ejected the video from the DVD player, LE should still find Dylan’s fingerprints on it because you use all your fingers to pull the tape out of the slot and I don’t think two people would grab the tape in the exact same spot. This discovery would also benefit Mark.

Dylan used his cell phone to communicate with his mom and friends Sunday evening so there’s no apparent reason why he would need to use Mark’s landline phone and/or computer because Mark said Dylan could text from his place. Besides, Dylan had his cell phone charger with him and he would have charged his phone before he went to sleep if he needed to.

moo

 

[The Cheese]

If there’s proof Dylan used Mark’s landline phone and/or computer on Monday you’d think Mark would want the public to know because it would prove Dylan was alive after Mark left; however, afaik, he wasn’t asked this crucial question during any of his interviews.

If Dylan’s fingerprints were on the video he watched Sunday evening, and they should be since he brought the DVD player downstairs, that’s all it would take to convince me that he made it to his father’s place.

Even if someone else ejected the video from the DVD player, LE should still find Dylan’s fingerprints on it because you use all your fingers to pull the tape out of the slot and I don’t think two people would grab the tape in the exact same spot. This discovery would also benefit Mark.

Dylan used his cell phone to communicate with his mom and friends Sunday evening so there’s no apparent reason why he would need to use Mark’s landline phone and/or computer because Mark said Dylan could text from his place. Besides, Dylan had his cell phone charger with him and he would have charged his phone before he went to sleep if he needed to.

moo

Mark may want the public to know, but he might not know about it. If LE didn't tell him, there would be no record of a local call on his bill.

Dylan was texting on his cell phone, and he did have his charger, but if the landline phone rang - let's say after MR went to bed or in the morning after he left - Dylan would most likely have answered it, and he couldn't use his cell phone to do that.

Just explaining some of the questions that go through my mind on this, and keep me wondering about it, and unable to come to a definite conclusion about it without a statement from LE to confirm it.

:cow:

 

[catswhiskers]

If there’s proof Dylan used Mark’s landline phone and/or computer on Monday you’d think Mark would want the public to know because it would prove Dylan was alive after Mark left; however, afaik, he wasn’t asked this crucial question during any of his interviews.

If Dylan’s fingerprints were on the video he watched Sunday evening, and they should be since he brought the DVD player downstairs, that’s all it would take to convince me that he made it to his father’s place.

Even if someone else ejected the video from the DVD player, LE should still find Dylan’s fingerprints on it because you use all your fingers to pull the tape out of the slot and I don’t think two people would grab the tape in the exact same spot. This discovery would also benefit Mark.

Dylan used his cell phone to communicate with his mom and friends Sunday evening so there’s no apparent reason why he would need to use Mark’s landline phone and/or computer because Mark said Dylan could text from his place. Besides, Dylan had his cell phone charger with him and he would have charged his phone before he went to sleep if he needed to.

moo

I'm not sure this is so important as IIRC LE have already confirmed that Dylan was at MR's place haven't they? Just wanting to clarify that the movie would have been a disk, not a tape, and as such they are handled differently. IMO most people pick them up by the edges, or edge and center hole - so perhaps not such a good source of prints. IMO it's also likely that the disk was just left in the player after it finished.

 

[Ghostwheel]

So do most of the board members feel that he is deceased or do some hold out hope that the father has stashed him somewhere with a friend or a family member...or something like that. Why Kill him? He just lost him. This could be good news; and hopeful news that he is alive not deceased. If he lost him forever; (basically) in custody and by living so far apart, why kill him? I need better Motivation in this case. To understand or think him dead at this point. Like in Kyron's case.

Not saying this is the case in this case, but go read why a father would take away or possibly kill his children at the Skelton case.
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Happens more often than you might think:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/05/05/fathers-who-kill-their-kids.html While I am not familiar with The Daily Beast, I did research the names in the articles, and at least those cases are factual.

Just saying it is possible. There is no accounting for anyone's thought processes.

 

[Lordeebee]

I don't think it's so important who touched the movie, but I think the movie was playing in the background while something BAD was happening. I feel physically ill when I listen to that portion of the MB uncut interview with MR.

"the movie we would (and right here I thoroughly believe he caught himself from saying 'would've', which is why he stumbled through the rest of the diatribe) watch that night...you know...when we were together...and...you know...

Plus why not just say "the movie we watched"??? I looked for other instances of the future tense speaking in this interview and couldn't find it.

Then goes on to say "I remember the movie being finished." Who says this??? Unless the ending of the movie signified something important?

"..taking care of a few things you know over here at the kitchen table while we were doing that, you know..." You and Dylan were doing WHAT??

Yep I think the movie was extremely important to MR, but not so much whose fingerprints might be on it.