CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #50

[katydid23]

Here is a clue from LE that they ARE currently investigating MR:


Mark’s and Dylan’s interactions and activities within the community on November 18th and 19th, as well as tips related to persons, locations and sightings remain under investigation.

Since when is the parent of a missing child described in a press release as being under investigation? :cop:

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I am being cryptic because of TOS. I don't want anymore 'vacations.' :smile:

I don't know if he still is their POI, but at one time they seemed to be focusing on him. I am sure you remember the many pages of discussions we all had about this very question. The mods even opened up sleuthing him because of LE's seeming interest in him as well.

Fair enough. I have always enjoyed posting with you and I definitely don't want to see you go on 'vacation.'

 

[Ausgirl]

Just commenting on the topic of Dylan maybe being alive and stashed somewhere...

If he is, I believe he'd have to be held against his will or through some kind of heavy lies and coercion - why would a boy who was happy with life at his mother's, his friends, his school, etc NOT make a call to his mother or anyone else at all, in all this time?

My gut says Dylan isn't anywhere voluntarily. So IMO he's either dead, or being held prisoner. I almost -hope- this is all a deluded kidnapping stunt on Mark's behalf. The alternatives don't bear thinking about.

IMO also: whether he harmed Dylan or not, Mark seems to me to be using the situation to keep his claws in his ex-wife.

 

[katydid23]

I honestly respect you more than anyone I disagree with on this case. However, ER and Co. pretty much share anything and everything publicly that would cast MR in a negative light. If there was any inkling that LE has shared their suspicions of MR, it would have been written in the sky over CO.

MOO

Thank you, and I respect you and your well thought out opinions as well.

As for Elaine, I believe she is being given 'clues' by the attitudes of LE when they discuss the searches, etc. I am not saying they are sharing evidence.

'But imo, if LE was sure that she was on the wrong track they would tell her that. If he had passed his poly and was being honest and cooperative and his stories were adding up, they would tell her so, imo. But I have a feeling that when they do ask her questions they have to do with Mark. But I don't think she would share any of that on FB, so not to hurt their future openness.

Didn't she just say a couple of days ago that she believes that LE is on the right track now? :websleuther:

 

[mijamawi]

Here is a clue from LE that they ARE currently investigating MR:


Mark’s and Dylan’s interactions and activities within the community on November 18th and 19th, as well as tips related to persons, locations and sightings remain under investigation.

Since when is the parent of a missing child described in a press release as being under investigation? :cop:

Well Dylan's interactions and activities within the community is also quoted there as well. I believe LE even said at one point that Dylan "was still at large."

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Here is a clue from LE that they ARE currently investigating MR:


Mark’s and Dylan’s interactions and activities within the community on November 18th and 19th, as well as tips related to persons, locations and sightings remain under investigation.

Since when is the parent of a missing child described in a press release as being under investigation? :cop:

I think that LE would want all the information about both Dylan and Mark's activities in order to establish timelines and any interactions with possible suspects that may have taken place. It doesn't say that they are solely investigating Mark as a suspect.

Is this quote from the press release of two months ago or further back?

 

[mijamawi]

Thank you, and I respect you and your well thought out opinions as well.

As for Elaine, I believe she is being given 'clues' by the attitudes of LE when they discuss the searches, etc. I am not saying they are sharing evidence.

'But imo, if LE was sure that she was on the wrong track they would tell her that. If he had passed his poly and was being honest and cooperative and his stories were adding up, they would tell her so, imo. But I have a feeling that when they do ask her questions they have to do with Mark. But I don't think she would share any of that on FB, so not to hurt their future openness.

Didn't she just say a couple of days ago that she believes that LE is on the right track now? :websleuther:

I honestly don't think LE would subtly hint that she's on the right track. As volatile as this whole situation is, how could they be sure she wouldn't go out there and blab to what they hinted at? Or someone she's close to would blab about it. I don't think LE is sharing anything with anyone right now, period. Either they have no clue or they're waiting on a body to show up.

 

[rebeccaeee]

Why? If I knew nothing of this case and all I had to go on was the FMDR page, which links to other pages, well I don't think I'd invest any time in looking for him. I'd believe he was at the bottom of the lake. The mixed message of love and light and the uber focus on the lake tells me one thing. They believe Dylan is dead but keeping up appearances tell them to "pray" and "hope."

IMO you can't state MR killed his son in one sentence and have hope in another. You should always have hope until a body is found. You=general you.

BBM: MOO is quite different. I hope he didn't kill his son but would not be surprised in the slightest to discover he had. Both possibilities coexist for me as I imagine they must for many of us. The uber focus on the lake is due to the several HRD hits from different dogs and handlers over the last six months. Without those hits. I think FMDR would be searching quite differently. Believing they will find a body does not exlcude hoping they won't. At least not for me. :cow::cow::cow:

 

[rebeccaeee]

I think that LE would want all the information about both Dylan and Mark's activities in order to establish timelines and any interactions with possible suspects that may have taken place. It doesn't say that they are solely investigating Mark as a suspect.

Is this quote from the press release of two months ago or further back?

i believe that is from the most recent press release.

 

[Ausgirl]

Quote from Mark's statement (bbm):

To Dylan: I know in my heart you are out there and can see all the things that are going on. "I want you to know I love you and will never give up to bring you home safe". Myself as well as many in our community and across the nation have you in our thoughts and prayers everyday. Each day many including me, search for the truth and the person or persons responsible for your disappearance. Speaking for myself, I will not rest until the truth comes out and justice has been served.

from: http://durangoherald.com/assets/pdf/DU136844517.pdf

Me, me, me..

".. you are out there and can see all the things that are going on" --- what, like, from the spirit world, Mark? Gave me a shiver.

The whole statement is just weird. IMO.

 

[cluciano63]

Maybe LE does not care if people believe MR is under investigation because he is under investigation. It is not like it would be an earth-shattering revelation if we were suddenly told, in no uncertain terms, that MR is the focus of the case. LE would still carry on as they are. Lots of people are POI's in cases and knowing it does not change anything.

My belief is that LE considers MR the prime and perhaps only known POI at this time. I have never heard of LE coming out and contradicting a grieving parent of a missing child, they way they did when MR made his (stupid, IMO) crack about untrained polygraph examiners. They would have let that roll off their backs if he was cleared in their minds, putting it down to stress. They also made a point of stating that ER and MC's whereabouts have been confirmed, after MR tried accusing her on national TV, another thing they could have ignored from a stressed-out parent.

Again, I am not convinced MR did this. But I do think he is the primary POI, named or not and will remain so until/unless this case is solved and another perp charged. I think the chances of Dylan being kept "stashed" by MR are as close to zero without being zero as possible, so I hope he is not the perp. At least a slim chance remains he is alive if someone else took him, IMO. But if MR is the guy...Dylan is not alive.

JMOJMOJMOJMOJMOJMO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I think that LE would want all the information about both Dylan and Mark's activities in order to establish timelines and any interactions with possible suspects that may have taken place. It doesn't say that they are solely investigating Mark as a suspect.

Is this quote from the press release of two months ago or further back?

i believe that is from the most recent press release.

To answer my own question and for everyone's information it was two months ago from the March 19th LE press release. As far as I know that's the last LE press release that we have.

Here's a link to the post with the press release from our Media, Maps and Timeline thread.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9070775&postcount=106"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Dylan Redwine *Media , Maps & Timelines*[/ame]

 

[mijamawi]

Quote from Mark's statement (bbm):

To Dylan: I know in my heart you are out there and can see all the things that are going on. "I want you to know I love you and will never give up to bring you home safe". Myself as well as many in our community and across the nation have you in our thoughts and prayers everyday. Each day many including me, search for the truth and the person or persons responsible for your disappearance. Speaking for myself, I will not rest until the truth comes out and justice has been served.

from: http://durangoherald.com/assets/pdf/DU136844517.pdf

Me, me, me..

".. you are out there and can see all the things that are going on" --- what, like, from the spirit world, Mark? Gave me a shiver.

The whole statement is just weird. IMO.

This was a statement from MR, right? Should he not speak in first person?

 

[NC Analyzer]

Maybe LE does not care if people believe MR is under investigation because he is under investigation. It is not like it would be an earth-shattering revelation if we were suddenly told, in no uncertain terms, that MR is the focus of the case. LE would still carry on as they are. Lots of people are POI's in cases and knowing it does not change anything.

My belief is that LE considers MR the prime and perhaps only known POI at this time. I have never heard of LE coming out and contradicting a grieving parent of a missing child, they way they did when MR made his (stupid, IMO) crack about untrained polygraph examiners. They would have let that roll off their backs if he was cleared in their minds, putting it down to stress. They also made a point of stating that ER and MC's whereabouts have been confirmed, after MR tried accusing her on national TV, another thing they could have ignored from a stressed-out parent.

Again, I am not convinced MR did this. But I do think he is the primary POI, named or not and will remain so until/unless this case is solved and another perp charged. I think the chances of Dylan being kept "stashed" by MR are as close to zero without being zero as possible, so I hope he is not the perp. At least a slim chance remains he is alive if someone else took him, IMO. But if MR is the guy...Dylan is not alive.

JMOJMOJMOJMOJMOJMO

Not to mention that their latest press release neglected to mention anything about Mark "cooperating" with the investigation. Sometimes it's what isn't said as much as what is said. He is in their sights. Not a doubt in my mind.

 

[mijamawi]

Maybe LE does not care if people believe MR is under investigation because he is under investigation. It is not like it would be an earth-shattering revelation if we were suddenly told, in no uncertain terms, that MR is the focus of the case. LE would still carry on as they are. Lots of people are POI's in cases and knowing it does not change anything.

My belief is that LE considers MR the prime and perhaps only known POI at this time. I have never heard of LE coming out and contradicting a grieving parent of a missing child, they way they did when MR made his (stupid, IMO) crack about untrained polygraph examiners. They would have let that roll off their backs if he was cleared in their minds, putting it down to stress. They also made a point of stating that ER and MC's whereabouts have been confirmed, after MR tried accusing her on national TV, another thing they could have ignored from a stressed-out parent.

Again, I am not convinced MR did this. But I do think he is the primary POI, named or not and will remain so until/unless this case is solved and another perp charged. I think the chances of Dylan being kept "stashed" by MR are as close to zero without being zero as possible, so I hope he is not the perp. At least a slim chance remains he is alive if someone else took him, IMO. But if MR is the guy...Dylan is not alive.

JMOJMOJMOJMOJMOJMO

I would hope LE doesn't care what people think. They have a job to do. They don't owe anyone a damn thing except Dylan. If they are working to find Dylan, then it's all good. All the other circus sideshow crap is just that....crap.

 

[katydid23]

This was a statement from MR, right? Should he not speak in first person?

It is not just that he is speaking in the first person. It is that he interjects HIMSELF and words highlighting HIMSELF, repeatedly, and more often than he speaks of Dylan.

 

[Ghostwheel]

After reading the multi quote of my posts from the other day, I can sympathize with Mark and the critiques of his letter.

I have only one question about your post. Does Marks letter in anyway prove that he is responsible for Dylan's disappearance?

Odd question, but not in my opinion, why? IMO, I can't see how it would prove he did OR he didn't.

 

[ColdHands]

I believe it might be that Mark told someone some of the things to write as some of it has that “talking around a subject” that happens when he speaks verbally. And that person does not have very good grammatical skills either, which convolutes a few things a little more. (unless it is all him which would explain that) I give him credit for saying something, rather than nothing. I have only these things to say about Mark’s statement:

On the positive:

Should have been said months ago, but it’s never too late.


Best quote of the whole case, if you ask me, no matter who says it.


At least it feels angry at the right person: whomever is responsible for Dylan’s disappearance.


Enough said.


On the negative:

This just leaves my jaw on the floor. It can not be more blame shifting.


Why bring this up? How does it help? No specifications on what kind of hampering, or what can be done to fix the perceived problem. Is this worse than contributing little to search efforts? It is generic blame shifting.


BBM:Why bring this up? It comes across as petty and “Not my fault, not my fault”. Why publicly invite, why not just CALL her? Why not just show up at a search and talk to her?


Why regardless? Why not just say that he loves him and hopes they can connect again? That his door will always be open? Why tell the son that you appear to want to reconnect with that even though he says lousy things, you still care. Telling someone they say lousy things doesn’t make them want to snuggle up. It wasn’t directed at me and I just wanted to flick away the pettiness of the person writing this.

IMO, it was close to being a good statement.....

Nice post, Ghost. Pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

This was a statement from MR, right? Should he not speak in first person?

Your right. Mark's statement would look really strange if he tried to talk about his feelings without using words like myself , I or me in it. I'm confused too.

 

[cluciano63]

I would hope LE doesn't care what people think. They have a job to do. They don't owe anyone a damn thing except Dylan. If they are working to find Dylan, then it's all good. All the other circus sideshow crap is just that....crap.

My point was that if they did tell ER that MR was under the microscope and she revealed that...so what? They would carry on an usual and if he does not think he is anyway, he is really out there.