CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #50

[Ghostwheel]

I'm not sure where Mark is "blaming" anyone and if he is that could just be his personality. I need some evidence. Not statement analysis.

I'm sorry if I come across too harsh and I thank you for sharing your thoughts Ghostwheel. I appreciate it.

No worries. If you don't see blaming, good for you. It makes your life easier, probably.

 

[azgrandma]

IMO Mark has only one motive for bringing up mediation. Personal gain. If Elaine refuses, it makes her look bad in some people's eyes. Which, again MOO, Mark seems fond of doing. If she accepts, he gains a forum with her in which he can be controlling and demeaning. Win, win for MR.

Elaine needs to conserve her strength for the genuine search for Dylan and not be pulled in by MRs seemingly endless self-serving games.
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JMO

I agree with you. If MR was serious about mediation and really meant to establish it since way back to 1/23/2013, he has had ample time to arrange it. It wouldn't seem too difficult since the mediator could contact EH for appointment times. IMO IF he was actually meant what he said, then we would be hearing a different song - I've scheduled x amount of mediation meetings and EH won't attend. or I have a mediator that has been in contact with EH and we are attempting to schedule something.

Not 4 months later saying still that he wants to go to mediation. Wanting and acting on your wants are two different things. IMO, MR is full of gonna's, thinking of's, want to's and looking into's but very little action. MOO

 

[Ghostwheel]

I get where you're coming from, but that's merely your opinion. LE's actions show me (IMO) that they haven't a clue. Of course there'd be some suspicion, MR was the last KNOWN person to see Dylan. Again, it's a potAto/potAHto kind of thing.

I meant to thank you a hundred times for the potAto/potAHto kind of thing. I so prefer when people can see that they just look at things differently.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

All I can say about mediation between Mark and Elaine is that it will never happened unless both parties agree.

But Elaine Redwine says mediation isn’t necessary because she “has no qualms with speaking to him.”
“He continues to say let’s go to mediation, but he hasn’t done anything to start it,” she said in an interview Friday afternoon. “Frankly, I don’t think we need one.”

If she doesn't feel that they need a mediator then it's never going to happen. Period. And that's what she said. MOO.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20130517/NEWS01/130519520/-1/s

 

[azgrandma]

Just commenting on the topic of Dylan maybe being alive and stashed somewhere...

If he is, I believe he'd have to be held against his will or through some kind of heavy lies and coercion - why would a boy who was happy with life at his mother's, his friends, his school, etc NOT make a call to his mother or anyone else at all, in all this time?
My gut says Dylan isn't anywhere voluntarily. So IMO he's either dead, or being held prisoner. I almost -hope- this is all a deluded kidnapping stunt on Mark's behalf. The alternatives don't bear thinking about.

IMO also: whether he harmed Dylan or not, Mark seems to me to be using the situation to keep his claws in his ex-wife.

BBM, I think that a perfect example of why Dylan would not make a call if he were hidden somewhere can be found in the recent rescue of MK, GD & AB. Ten years and neither of them made a single call to family. In hearing details (thankfully sparse because they need time to heal IMO) they were in so much fear of being beaten that they dared not attempt to make a call. Makes my stomach turn, beating someone into submission and compliance.

My hopes are that this is some deluded kidnapping attempt on MR's part, then Dylan woud IMO be alive. I hope that someone else kidnapped Dylan. I fear that none of those are viable options and Dylan may no longer be with us but it doesn't stop me from hoping he is alive, somewhere with someone. Hope.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

All I can say about mediation between Mark and Elaine is that it will never happened unless both parties agree.


If she doesn't feel that they need a mediator then it's never going to happen. Period. And that's what she said. MOO.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20130517/NEWS01/130519520/-1/s

if he is the one suggesting mediation but he hasn't done anything to start it then its never going to happen is it.

IMO his words are contrary to his actions.

IF he wanted mediation then HE should have taken steps to start it.
IF he wanted to speak to EH then HE should have called her

IMO he talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk

 

[Deleted member 39678]

if he is the one suggesting mediation but he hasn't done anything to start it then its never going to happen is it.

IMO his words are contrary to his actions.

IF he wanted mediation then HE should have taken steps to start it.
IF he wanted to speak to EH then HE should have called her

IMO he talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk

If Mark did do all of the things needed, and maybe he did, to get mediation going, it wouldn't matter because Elaine said that she doesn't feel that mediation is necessary. End of story. MOO.

 

[cluciano63]

I am kind of hoping some sort of action is in the works...I was shocked by the arrest in Jennifer R.'s case, as LE was so silent and many people had given up hope that they had enough clues to lead to an arrest. So you never know.

Granted, it is less likely with Dylan not being found, but not unheard of either.

 

[AnotherSetOfEyes]

Not proof of guilt for either MR or RR, but an interesting comparison of statements none-the-less:

MR: ..."Over the last several months the focus in finding Dylan seems to have changed to blaming and disrespect..." ..."The truth always comes out..."

RR: ..."The people that don't know us, the mudslinging and everything else. I have nothing to say," Ramsaran said in January. "The truth always comes out."

http://www.wbng.com/news/video/Remy-Ramsaran-Mourner-to-Murderer-207965801.html
http://durangoherald.com/assets/pdf/DU136844517.pdf

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JMO

 

[catswhiskers]

Across Colorado, dozens of families are looking for missing children. Some have been searching for months, some, like the Abeytas, for decades. For some, it can be hard to convince investigators to go after very cold leads, hard to keep hoping, harder still to give up hope.

The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children website and the Colorado Bureau of Investigation website list dozens of missing children. The majority are teenage runaways, many others were taken due to a custody battle between parents. Then there are the roughly 15 — from Dylan Redwine who disappeared last November, to Christopher Vigil, who was 9 when he vanished while hiking in Poudre Park in 1978 — whose fates are a genuine mystery.

Denver Post - March 19, 2013

 

[TxLady2]

All I can say about mediation between Mark and Elaine is that it will never happened unless both parties agree.


If she doesn't feel that they need a mediator then it's never going to happen. Period. And that's what she said. MOO.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20130517/NEWS01/130519520/-1/s

I agree. With that attitude going in, it will not accomplish anything. Maybe I'm a little cross-eyed but it makes little sense to me to criticize him for not setting it up, and at the same time say that it's not necessary to engage a mediator.

From what I saw on Dr. P, they cannot have a normal conversation, and it seems to have been the pattern for a long time. Strange to me to think that two people who once loved each other and created children together could end up with so much animosity and resentment between them, that they could not find a way to come together to find their missing child. I don't understand that at all, but if they have not been able to talk for the past six months, then they never will. So in all fairness, maybe she realizes that and is opting to avoid any more unpleasantness.

 

[AnotherSetOfEyes]

I agree. With that attitude going in, it will not accomplish anything. Maybe I'm a little cross-eyed but it makes little sense to me to criticize him for not setting it up, and at the same time say that it's not necessary to engage a mediator.

From what I saw on Dr. P, they cannot have a normal conversation, and it seems to have been the pattern for a long time. Strange to me to think that two people who once loved each other and created children together could end up with so much animosity and resentment between them, that they could not find a way to come together to find their missing child. I don't understand that at all, but if they have not been able to talk for the past six months, then they never will. So in all fairness, maybe she realizes that and is opting to avoid any more unpleasantness.

I might be the cross-eyed one here. The way I see it is:

One parent is calling for mediation, doing nothing about making that happen, while the other looks on without interest.

One parent is calling for her child, doing everything she possibly can to find him, while the other looks on without interest.

 

[azgrandma]

Denver Post - March 19, 2013

Thank you so much for that article! From the article, I think this sums up how people have hope & fear.

Goodwin, who is now police chief at Arapahoe Community College, said his training and experience tell him Anthony is probably not alive.

"But," he said, "in Cleveland they were saying the same thing. You can't give up. You hope."

 

[neverletgo]

It's been six months today. :cry: Where is Dylan?

 

[dlc]

Yes - talk about inserting yourself into an investigation. His many posts containing not so thinly veiled threats have been reported to LE - I sure hope he is on their radar.

Maybe it's my computer, but I only see a total of four posts. Two are by the same person, but that doesn't seem like all that many. Who has been reported to LE? And on their radar for taking Dylan?

 

[*Lash*]

Why? If I knew nothing of this case and all I had to go on was the FMDR page, which links to other pages, well I don't think I'd invest any time in looking for him. I'd believe he was at the bottom of the lake. The mixed message of love and light and the uber focus on the lake tells me one thing. They believe Dylan is dead but keeping up appearances tell them to "pray" and "hope."

IMO you can't state MR killed his son in one sentence and have hope in another. You should always have hope until a body is found. You=general you.

MR is the reason they began searching the lake, the fishing pole story, etc...MR wanted the lake to be searched, yet he has never organized one search of the lake. MR talking about the lake and the cadaver dog hits are the reason there is still some focus on the lake. MR started the lake speculation. In my opinion, this gave LE/EH plenty of reason to focus on the lake and continue to rule it out. Even though it now appears MR wants to go in a different direction.

 

[*Lash*]

bbm - I have never seen any evidence of this. In fact imo MR is on the receiving end of all of that kind of treatment from many individuals - taunting, goading, insulting, teasing, and I will add threatening to the mix as well.

Absolutely an astute observation. Thanks just wasn't enough!

Do you remember when MR accused EH of hanging with criminal types on the DP show? MR accused EH of drinking and driving with the kids. MR made a jab about sending Dylan w/o a coat. MR suggested EH may have had something to do with Dylan's disappearance. MR stated it was no secret where EH works...I disagree, the jabbing has not been one sided.

 

[*Lash*]

It wasn't a letter, it was a statement. A statement from an individual. A public statement. People have been asking why MR doesn't speak. He's speaking. He's speaking to Dylan through a public format. Can someone give me an example of a statement from MR that would be acceptable? TIA

JMO

I would have appreciated his statement had he left Elaine and Cory's name out of it. If MR wants to let Cory know how he feels, call him or write him an email. Dylan is missing, not Cory. Once Dylan is found, MR can focus on mending his relationship with Cory. If that is even possible. MR's focus should be finding Dylan.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Do you remember when MR accused EH of hanging with criminal types on the DP show? MR accused EH of drinking and driving with the kids. MR made a jab about sending Dylan w/o a coat. MR suggested EH may have had something to do with Dylan's disappearance. MR stated it was no secret where EH works...I disagree, the jabbing has not been one sided.

what appears to be forgotten or overlooked is that what EH has said is in relation to Dylans disappearance. What MR has said is not in reference to Dylans disappearance, eg The interview where he spoke with Melissa Blasius and was talking about how Elaine was out getting a career and that she hadn't bonded with Dylan or when he accused her of drink driving with the children in the car.

 

[azgrandma]

Do you remember when MR accused EH of hanging with criminal types on the DP show? MR accused EH of drinking and driving with the kids. MR made a jab about sending Dylan w/o a coat. MR suggested EH may have had something to do with Dylan's disappearance. MR stated it was no secret where EH works...I disagree, the jabbing has not been one sided.

I would have appreciated his statement had he left Elaine and Cory's name out of it. If MR wants to let Cory know how he feels, call him or write him an email. Dylan is missing, not Cory. Once Dylan is found, MR can focus on mending his relationship with Cory. If that is even possible. MR's focus should be finding Dylan.

what appears to be forgotten or overlooked is that what EH has said is in relation to Dylans disappearance. What MR has said is not in reference to Dylans disappearance, eg The interview where he spoke with Melissa Blasius and was talking about how Elaine was out getting a career and that she hadn't bonded with Dylan or when he accused her of drink driving with the children in the car.

Thank you for saying what I wanted to, IMO I think that if I had said that my opinion may have been misunderstood.