CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #51

[Psychic Sleuth]

I am not trying to slight or discount anyone else. But I don't think it is a mischaracterization to call FMDR the 'official' Dylan is Missing website. JMO

ETA: I was going on the fact that her video store was made the SEARCH HDQTRS. And IIRC, LE saw it as such as well, and it as where the grid search map was kept so people could look at where the ares that needed to be cleared were.

I'm lost. So FMDR is not considered the official page here any more? I thought it was and it was the only one we could reference and paraphrase here on WS?

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Respectfully, that article does not mention the postal worker sighting at all.....

would that be because the postal worker sighting had already been found to be two other boys?

 

[The Cheese]

I did post an article that answered this already

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #51

Thanks. It doesn't answer it for me, because it's not a direct statement from Mark, but rather a separate sentence from the reporter, and that's why I asked TxJan if she would check to see if she has any statements from MR.

I'm fine if you accept the paragraph you posted as being a statement from MR that he reported Dylan missing. I don't accept it.

We interpret this differently.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

As far as others having access to Dylan's iPod texting account, if they tried to send a text say from another device using that account (if that's even possible IDK?) but it would be easy to see where the text was sent from since the iPod requires wifi and all texts could be traced back to an ISP.

 

[azgrandma]

Did he tell her Dylan was missing or did he say he couldn't find him and had she heard from him?

He didn't "tell" her anything, he sent a text. IMO, something in that text caused EH to call the Sheriff.

 

[katydid23]

Am I the only one who finds MR not taking note of the backpack being missing strange ???

He has no idea where his son is and he can't contact him , so surely he would look to see if he had take his bag with him ????

If my son was visiting from out of town, and was waiting impatiently for me to return to pick him up, and I had called/texted him a few times and he never picked up or replied, and then I arrived home and he was not there, with no note left behind, the very FIRST THING I would have done is look and see if his backpack was still there. If it was, I would assume he was outside close by, and if not then i might think he already went to his friends. JMO

But it is really hard for me to accept that Mark waited 2 days to even look and see if the backpack was still there, and he ONLY did so because LE 'posed' the question to him.

 

[katydid23]

Respectfully, that article does not mention the postal worker sighting at all.....

EXACTLY. :wink:

 

[azgrandma]

I am sure he was asked if anything was missing. MOO You would think he would have looked around and noticed it was gone right away. MOO seems like the backpack was an after thought. MOO

IIRC a cursory search was done by LPSO on Monday night, they wanted to search for Dylan's phone, etc. I would imagine that at that time, while waling around in the house with LPSO to try to find something to indicate where your child would be or could have gone, that MR would have noticed that the backpack was missing. Maybe he just doesn't pay attention to those little details? IDK

 

[azgrandma]

So are you saying that Mark would not follow his son's case on the official missing website?

Didn't he tell Tricia that he didn't pay attention to fb, but was reading here? Heck the postal lady sighting w/links was discussed to death so I would think he knew as much as we did.

 

[asyousay]

IIRC a cursory search was done by LPSO on Monday night, they wanted to search for Dylan's phone, etc. I would imagine that at that time, while waling around in the house with LPSO to try to find something to indicate where your child would be or could have gone, that MR would have noticed that the backpack was missing. Maybe he just doesn't pay attention to those little details? IDK

Maybe he was having another nap while the search went on ?!

:cow:

 

[aust amateur slueth]

I am not trying to slight or discount anyone else. But I don't think it is a mischaracterization to call FMDR the 'official' Dylan is Missing website. JMO

ETA: I was going on the fact that her video store was made the SEARCH HDQTRS. And IIRC, LE saw it as such as well, and it as where the grid search map was kept so people could look at where the ares that needed to be cleared were.

I don't feel that its a mischaracterization at all.

IIRC there were concerns about other pages, including requests for pages to be removed.

http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=304734

it would be interesting to know if those other pages were actually people who were known to the family prior to Dylan going missing and if they had asked if they could start a page, if not then IMO its rather rude of them to start a page without first getting permission from the family.

 

[katydid23]

. Monday the 19th Mark texted me and asked me if I had heard from Dylan.


GRACE: Everyone, taking your calls is Dylan`s mother. Now, Ms. Redwine, was -- did there come a time when you learned that Dylan was missing? How did that happen?

REDWINE: Well, his dad texted me at around, oh, 4:30. Maybe it was closer to 5:00 on Monday. And I texted him back. You know, it was like, Well, we should call the sheriff. So I went ahead and I actually called the sheriff that day. I don`t know if Mark had called the sheriff that day, either, but I called the sheriff right after I got the text from Mark.


GRACE: What were his words when the dad told you he couldn`t find Dylan?

REDWINE: He asked me if I had heard from Dylan. And I told him it was -- you know, it was discerning (sic) to me that I was, you know, six hours away, and he was asking me that question.

GRACE: And then you found out he hadn`t been seen. So did you actually call the police?

REDWINE: I did call the police. I don`t know if Mark did or not, but I did, as well. I called the Bayfield police.

GRACE: Have you had a hard time getting information out of the father?

REDWINE: Well, you know, I`ve tried reaching out to him. You know, we`ve texted -- he`s -- you know, he`s just not been -- we just haven`t worked together very well through all this. And like I said, I`ve really tried to reach out to him. But people react differently, I guess.

GRACE: What do you mean by that?

REDWINE: Well, I mean, you know, I just want to find my son. I mean, right now, that is my primary focus. And we need to get over anything that has occurred. We just need to find our son. And you know, unfortunately for Mark, he was the last person to see Dylan. So all the questions are going to come back to him, and he needs to, you know, try and understand what people are going through, what we`re going through, what Dylan`s brother is going through and help us find Dylan.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

VERY INTERESTING. Because Mark just said to Tricia that he texted ER from the marshals office. But I had never heard that before. I had heard him say he texted her when his frinds said they had not heard from Dylan. And that story fits better with this timeline that ER gave back then to NG. 4;30 or 4:45 was exactly when he said he went to Bayfield.

According to LE, he reported D missing about 6 pm. So I think he is LYING when he told Tricia he texted ER from the marshals office. Besides, why wouldnt he call or text ER or Cory before reporting the boy missing? Wouldnt there be a good chance they had heard from him and knew if he was OK?

 

[azgrandma]

I hope to God in heaven that no parent of a missing child goes to facebook, instead of to LE, to get info on whether or not LE has nailed down the status of a sighting of their child.

My opinion.

MR was going to LE for information on a regular basis. In the MB interview he mentioned that both he & EH had a liason that they would s/w on a weekly basis. Early on it was reported that a liason had been assigned to each parent. MR also mentioned calling LE for updates. I am certain that those meetings were to discuss what has been ruled in/out as a sighting, I think it would be safe to say that those updates with LE were to discuss the progress of the case. MOO

 

[azgrandma]

On one hand, we can point out how he insults her, intentionally or not, that's how it comes across to some. And we can point out how she does the same to him (one example-Brandon is not her stepson and laying claim to that title was a slight to MR perhaps). And at the same time, we say they should talk to each other without a mediator. It's completely clear to me why these two people can not and should not talk to each other with out facilitation. JMO

BBM - thanks for letting me know that, I'll make sure that his children, her grandchildren, don't call grandma.

 

[The Cheese]

MR was going to LE for information on a regular basis. In the MB interview he mentioned that both he & EH had a liason that they would s/w on a weekly basis. Early on it was reported that a liason had been assigned to each parent. MR also mentioned calling LE for updates. I am certain that those meetings were to discuss what has been ruled in/out as a sighting, I think it would be safe to say that those updates with LE were to discuss the progress of the case. MOO

Thanks, azgrandma. That's what I remember too, and I didn't know why he'd go to facebook to get info on the status of the postal sighting, when he could get it right from LE.

 

[katydid23]

T: When did u first find out that --or is it true that all of dYlans clothing and his iPod are missing?

MR: well, to answer your question, with a yes or no answer, yes, thats true, but to clarify that, it wasn't till you know a short time that law enforcement was aware of what was going on and was involved and I know that they immediately brought in some dogs to start tracking ya know, his movement, and try to figure out the direction that he was headed, and the question was posed to me, is his backpack here? and I'm like well I don't know, let me go look for it because I ..that's not something that I was looking for…so you know it probably took ..I wanna say the first day maybe even two before it was determined that yes, his backpack was not here..my only concern was Dylan and what have we got to do to find him…and where is he?

I was just rereading this, and imagining his reply to LE when they asked if the backpack was still there, and if he said " well I don't know, let me go look for it because I ..that's not something that I was looking for..."

Wouldn't that make the investigators a bit curious that he had never bothered to check for his missing son's belongings ? :what:

 

[aust amateur slueth]

BBM - thanks for letting me know that, I'll make sure that his children, her grandchildren, don't call grandma.

I think some people who maybe haven't experienced a step family themselves don't get the whole step family dynamics and how the ending of a marriage doesn't end all the associations.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

I was just rereading this, and imagining his reply to LE when they asked if the backpack was still there, and if he said " well I don't know, let me go look for it because I ..that's not something that I was looking for..."

Wouldn't that make the investigators a bit curious that he had never bothered to check for his missing son's belongings ? :what:

definitely, especially since he was so insistent about the fishing pole being missing.

odd very odd

 

[azgrandma]

I think some people who maybe haven't experienced a step family themselves don't get the whole step family dynamics and how the ending of a marriage doesn't end all the associations.

You are so correct aust! The adults divorced, not the adults & children.

 

[TxJan1971]

(very respectfully snipped for space)

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You say you think you have all the statements about Dylan being reported missing - could I impose on you, when you get a chance, to see if you have any statements at all where Mark states the he reported Dylan missing? I can't find any, and no one has posted any quotes from him.

Thanks!

Sure, if my cantankerous 87-year-old dad will allow me to leave the garage and stop making cornhole games (for strangers) long enough to go to my own home!!! I forgot the medicine to slip in his food today to make him sleepy! :floorlaugh:

I'll see what I have at home when I get the chance and get back to you!

Let me know if you or anyone has any info. to firm up the Time MR called.

We need a list of follow up questions (if an occasion arises.)