CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #52

[Eileen730]

They can't move on until they've cleared the logical. And that's why, IMO, it would have been so great if they had been able to have full cooperation and clear MR quickly, if possible. This is from the link to Klaas Kids provided by WS:

"As intrusive as it may become and as irrelevant as it may seem, fully cooperate with law enforcement and eliminate yourself as a suspect. They will ask questions that seem irrelevant and may even ask you to take a polygraph examination. It is not fair, but it is necessary. Remember, like you, law enforcement doesn’t know where your child is and the sooner they are able to gather and assimilate information and evidence, the sooner they are going to be able to direct their investigation toward the solution.

In your efforts to create good relations with law enforcement try to establish mutually beneficial ground rules. Ask for a law enforcement contact that can work as an official liaison. This will establish necessary stability, create trust and ease the flow of information. Work with your law enforcement liaison to ensure that relevant information about your child’s case will be relayed to you through official channels instead of through the media..."



JMO, but I really do feel bad for LE in this case. I am sure many of them are parents, and being unable to charge anyone to date must be incredibly frustrating and weighing heavily on them.

Blended families can become harmonious, but rarely start out that way. The emotional health of the players and their willingness to ferret out sources of conflict, take ownership of their own feelings, and respect the feelings of other parties is important. I stand by my perspective that Dylan was bound to have some conflicting emotions as this major change was exacted in his life, living arrangements, school situation and geographical separation from his father. Was Dylan enrolled in some sort of counselling? The situation seems to warrant it.

What Situation?

We have not seen nor read where Dylan was Unhappy being in a blended family!
Many times the changes are better for the kids and they THRIVE!

Im not so sure Elaine and Marks relationship was wonderful!
Kids move all the time .

Fact
Dylan went to see his father.
Fact
Dylan was never seen again!


Dad has some explaining to do as I see it!

JMo

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Even his own family have only spoken out about once or twice. Where is his support from his family and community ?


We known from Elane's side she is getting masses of support and help which is normal in such situations as people rally around you .


:cow:

good question, its interesting that there is so much support for EH from the community that MR still lives in, that makes me wonder why there doesn't appear to be much if any local support for MR.

 

[Bayou Mistress]

Even his own family have only spoken out about once or twice. Where is his support from his family and community ?


We known from Elane's side she is getting masses of support and help which is normal in such situations as people rally around you .


:cow:

Do we really want to get into the psychology of hate and blaming?

I do see Mark having the support of his family.

 

[Eileen730]

Even his own family have only spoken out about once or twice. Where is his support from his family and community ?


We known from Elane's side she is getting masses of support and help which is normal in such situations as people rally around you .


:cow:

Exactly!

Where is the support!
How about friends? No one talks about this guy!

WHY????


JMO MOO

 

[*Lash*]

Blended families can become harmonious, but rarely start out that way. The emotional health of the players and their willingness to ferret out sources of conflict, take ownership of their own feelings, and respect the feelings of other parties is important. I stand by my perspective that Dylan was bound to have some conflicting emotions as this major change was exacted in his life, living arrangements, school situation and geographical separation from his father. Was Dylan enrolled in some sort of counselling? The situation seems to warrant it.

In my opinion, Dylan is in that rare category where blended families start out harmonious. I personally think Dylan was happy his mom had found happiness. Towards the end, Mark and Elaine's marriage does not appear to have been a healthy environment for the boys. I believe Dylan and Cory witnessed some ugly things. I get an overall picture that Elaine's boys were protective of her. It appears the further she removed herself from Mark, the happier she became. I believe her children found comfort in Elaine's happiness. I don't share the same opinion that Dylan had conflicting emotions about the separation from his father. I can agree the changes in school may have been a challenge, but I tend to believe Dylan had matured and was seeing a side of his father he did not like. It doesn't appear Dylan even responded when his dad tried to communicate with him in the months before their visit. Mark admits Dylan was distant before and during their time together. It appears Dylan ignored him. I personally don't think Dylan cared to spend time with Mark at all. In my opinion, the only thing Dylan wanted to do during the visit was spend time with his friends. I can only imagine this hurt Mark considering it does appear he and Dylan did have a good relationship at one time. In my opinion, the only person who had conflicting emotions with the major change exacted in his life, the living arrangements and custodial changes is Mark. I don't believe Mark had taken ownership of his feelings. It is interesting how we all see things differently. Our views are so different as I see Mark as the one having a difficult time adapting and would likely benefit from counseling.

 

[asyousay]

What Situation?

We have not seen nor read where Dylan was Unhappy being in a blended family!
Many times the changes are better for the kids and they THRIVE!

Im not so sure Elaine and Marks relationship was wonderful!
Kids move all the time .

Fact
Dylan went to see his father.
Fact
Dylan was never seen again!


Dad has some explaining to do as I see it!

JMo

IMO - The marriage sounds toxic for the kids and the parents. Did MR not have sex on the lawn with somebody and Cory and Dylan saw this ? - also Dylan struck out at MR when he took a swing at Elaine or Cory when MR was drunk?
:cow:

 

[Eileen730]

Do we really want to get into the psychology of hate and blaming?

I do see Mark having the support of his family.

Where?

 

[Eileen730]

IMO - The marriage sounds toxic for the kids and the parents. Did MR not have sex on the lawn with somebody and Cory and Dylan saw this ? - also Dylan struck out at MR when he took a swing at Elaine or Cory when MR was drunk?
:cow:

Yes! toxic for sure!
So it was the better choice to end the marriage as I see it.
Elaine didn't leave the state and MR had a truck and could drive to see Dylan if he was so inclined.

IMO Elaine and the boys were having a better life in CS. with MH.

 

[Bayou Mistress]

Where?

Where do any of them have support?

Dylan being found is the one thing that I think everyone wants. There is unmitigated support for that goal, apparent by the local community participation in searches found in MSM.

 

[asyousay]

Where do any of them have support?

Dylan being found is the one thing that I think everyone wants. There is unmitigated support for that goal, apparent by the local community participation in searches found in MSM.

Elaine has raised over $50,000 for the reward fund and that involved her friends and support system to arrange events and on so . On the searches friends have helped her including her family as well and there are photos of them all on searches . The facebook page is ran by her close friends . So i can see a clear picture of support from Elaine's side .

Apart from the guilty party or Dylan would of been found by now IMO

 

[Eileen730]

Where do any of them have support?

Dylan being found is the one thing that I think everyone wants. There is unmitigated support for that goal, apparent by the local community participation in searches found in MSM.

There is ONE person that does not want Dylan found!
JMO

 

[Emma Ems]

I did. I said it was not a joyous occasion for Dylan to move six hours away from all he knew in Bayfield, his friends, his father, his school. I said that Dylan would be conflicted about moving even if he wanted to go. Even the world of children is rarely black and white.

I can imagine, even if MH was somehow integrated into Dylan's life, how hard the move must have been. You are talking major change, all at one time. Unless MH was previously living with ER in Bayfield, you are talking moving in with a new family, leaving behind close childhood friends, having to make new friends, a new school, a new town, and all while probably going through puberty. That's a lot to go through at one time, IMO.

 

[Bayou Mistress]

Exactly!

Where is the support!
How about friends? No one talks about this guy!

WHY????


JMO MOO

All that is talked about here is Mark Redwine. There is a great deal of resistance to discussing anything else including profiling the victim, who in my opinion, is Dylan Redwine.

 

[asyousay]

All that is talked about here is Mark Redwine. There is a great deal of resistance to discussing anything else including profiling the victim, who in my opinion, is Dylan Redwine.

We talk about MR because he is pretty much the only suspect we have here :cow:

There is no proof that a random perp snatched Dylan on Monday morning and MR's story has more holes than a tennis racket IMO

Dylan is the victim and everybody on here feels the same IMO - which is why we are all here when there is very little news as we want Dylan home and for justice to be served !!

 

[Bayou Mistress]

I can imagine, even if MH was somehow integrated into Dylan's life, how hard the move must have been. You are talking major change, all at one time. Unless MH was previously living with ER in Bayfield, you are talking moving in with a new family, leaving behind close childhood friends, having to make new friends, a new school, a new town, and all while probably going through puberty. That's a lot to go through at one time, IMO.

It was a lot to go through, even for a well adjusted youth. Unfortunately, your comment is likely to be perceived as insulting someone when your intent is to look clearly at Dylan's situation.

 

[*Lash*]

I can imagine, even if MH was somehow integrated into Dylan's life, how hard the move must have been. You are talking major change, all at one time. Unless MH was previously living with ER in Bayfield, you are talking moving in with a new family, leaving behind close childhood friends, having to make new friends, a new school, a new town, and all while probably going through puberty. That's a lot to go through at one time, IMO.

I can agree that Dylan had a lot going on. The disagreement lies with how these changes affected Dylan. Good or bad? It is my opinion, the changes affected Mark more than anyone. The question is what can this information do to help find Dylan? I only see two theories using the above information. the first being Dylan was so distraught he ran way or the second being Mark was so emotionally unstable something horrible happened. I personally don't believe Dylan ran away and from all accounts neither does LE.

 

[Eileen730]

I can imagine, even if MH was somehow integrated into Dylan's life, how hard the move must have been. You are talking major change, all at one time. Unless MH was previously living with ER in Bayfield, you are talking moving in with a new family, leaving behind close childhood friends, having to make new friends, a new school, a new town, and all while probably going through puberty. That's a lot to go through at one time, IMO.

He didn't even move out of state!

 

[Bayou Mistress]

We talk about MR because he is pretty much the only suspect we have here :cow:

There is no proof that a random perp snatched Dylan on Monday morning and MR's story has more holes than a tennis racket IMO

Dylan is the victim and everybody on here feels the same IMO - which is why we are all here when there is very little news as we want Dylan home and for justice to be served !!

There is no proof that MR did something to Dylan either. You see holes where I see details. MR is your only suspect. I have others....

 

[Emma Ems]

We talk about MR because he is pretty much the only suspect we have here :cow:

There is no proof that a random perp snatched Dylan on Monday morning and MR's story has more holes than a tennis racket IMO

Dylan is the victim and everybody on here feels the same IMO - which is why we are all here when there is very little news as we want Dylan home and for justice to be served !!

"Teal" By Me. I do not feel the same way, therefore I don't think everyone feels the same way. I do not get that a few others feel the same way either. Wait I may have misread this, Dylan is the victim, but if you mean that everyone feels MR is the only possible perpetrator, I do not agree. Let me clarify that.

BBM. I don't think that MR is the only suspect either, I think he is the only one we can really talk about. I personally have many, as I view this like CLUE. You have all these people in the picture and you have to kind of guess a conclusion, or come up with various possibilities, and see there is a way to rule out those possibilities, and if not, they remain on the board. I haven't ruled any out, as of yet, as there are still a great many questions that have yet to be answered for me personally, that satisfy my level enough to dismiss them.

 

[cluciano63]

LE has stated that they are not considering Dylan as a runaway. They have said his disappearance is a crime. Therefore, Dylan's state of mind, background or his character is NOT an issue. Someone did something to/with him. And so far, LE has not been able to clear his father, the last known to have seen him.