CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #52

[katydid23]

IMO, I believe MR has been consistent that the nap was no more than an hour.

I disagree. He got home at 11:30. He says he did not 'realize' D was not home until 2:30. Sounds to me like he slept longer than an hour.

 

[katydid23]

That doesn't say that's when he woke up from his nap. That says when he got alarmed about him not being back. It doesn't even say how long the nap was.

It says he laid down for a nap when he returned home [which was around 11:30] and he did not realize that Dylan hadn't returned until 2:30. So it sounds like he slept until 2:30. Otherwise, how could he ' not realize' that D hadn't returned?

 

[katydid23]

"And it was probably 2:30 by the time I realized that Dylan still was not home ..."


How do you 'not realize' your kid is not home? Oh yeah, he was ASLEEP.

 

[Emma Ems]

It says he laid down for a nap when he returned home [which was around 11:30] and he did not realize that Dylan hadn't returned until 2:30. So it sounds like he slept until 2:30. Otherwise, how could he ' not realize' that D hadn't returned?

That is not at all what that stated. It stated that he took a nap. He then stated it was not until 2:30 that he realized Dylan was still not home. He COULD have taken a nap, got up pilfered around the house, then looked at the clock and said, "dang, that boy still isn't home yet!" The only time he addresses how long the nap was, is when he was directly asked about the nap. One time it was no longer than an hour(as provided up thread by Cold Hands) the other is in the interview that we are not allowed to discuss.

 

[Emma Ems]

"And it was probably 2:30 by the time I realized that Dylan still was not home ..."


How do you 'not realize' your kid is not home? Oh yeah, he was ASLEEP.

That's is what you are assuming from what you read. I do not see that, and it's not a FACT.

 

[Dee10]

I disagree. He got home at 11:30. He says he did not 'realize' D was not home until 2:30. Sounds to me like he slept longer than an hour.

IIRC he he hasn't given another explanation during the time period he got home until he left in his truck for what he was doing except for a nap.

 

[Bayou Mistress]

IIRC he he hasn't given another explanation during the time period he got home until he left in his truck for what he was doing except for a nap.

I agree, he hasn't. That's a question for the next blog talk show. I am certain that this was covered extensively by law enforcement however. We're on the outside wishing we knew it all.

 

[katydid23]

That is not at all what that stated. It stated that he took a nap. He then stated it was not until 2:30 that he realized Dylan was still not home. He COULD have taken a nap, got up pilfered around the house, then looked at the clock and said, "dang, that boy still isn't home yet!" The only time he addresses how long the nap was, is when he was directly asked about the nap. One time it was no longer than an hour(as provided up thread by Cold Hands) the other is in the interview that we are not allowed to discuss.

If that was the case then he is even more negligent and cold hearted than I previously thought:

---He would call his son, who is home alone waiting for a ride,and get no reply to three attempts to reach him.

---Upon his return, he finds the cabin empty, and no note.

---He takes an hour nap, then wakes up, and does not notice, for a couple MORE hours, that his son is still gone.

----He has not seen, nor spoken to his young son since 7:30 am, and it is not until 2;30 pm, that he NOTICES he is not home still. :no:

Something is wrong with this picture, imo.

 

[katydid23]

That's is what you are assuming from what you read. I do not see that, and it's not a FACT.

So what kept him so occupied and busy that he didn't 'realize' his son was still not home? That is a very small house. How could he NOT notice?

His son had just arrived the night before, hadn't seen him for months. Dylan, he says, was his entire world. Yet he leaves him at 7:30 am, all attempts to reach him failed, and after waking from his nap, it still takes him a few more hours to check and see if he came back home?


I have an eerie feeling that he was just wasting time, so that he did not have to officially report him until darkness fell JMO

 

[DylansMom34]

After not seeing his son for a couple of months and not seeing him, hearing from him, etc, afor so many hours that day, it's just hard to understand why it would be late afternoon/early evening before MR started making efforts to find Dylan. For those that do not live in Colorado, at that time of the year it starts getting dark by 4:30/5:00.

 

[dlc]

I don't know why you are saying he rarely visited there. I understand that prior to Elaine's move to Colorado Springs that Dylan spent much time with his father, including riding the school bus to his home.

Link, please.

 

[Emma Ems]

If that was the case then he is even more negligent and cold hearted than I previously thought:

---He would call his son, who is home alone waiting for a ride,and get no reply to three attempts to reach him.

---Upon his return, he finds the cabin empty, and no note.

---He takes an hour nap, then wakes up, and does not notice, for a couple MORE hours, that his son is still gone.

----He has not seen, nor spoken to his young son since 7:30 am, and it is not until 2;30 pm, that he NOTICES he is not home still. :no:

Something is wrong with this picture, imo.

I don't think it's at all odd for a kid to get caught up in what they are doing and be gone for a few hours. Dylan was not a baby. Kids this age can spend all day gone off with friends. People also lose track of time and sometimes think only 30 minutes have passed when it's really been an hour or so. Not that I want to be sexist but it's usually women who are more "worried" by kid's behaviors, than fathers. Sometimes when us women start stressing about our kids it's our hubs that tell us "NOT" to over react.

 

[katydid23]

That's is what you are assuming from what you read. I do not see that, and it's not a FACT.

Mark's home is pretty small. How could he not notice that his son wasn't there?

 

[cat28]

Ingle Hollow

Fairplains.

 

[ColdHands]

"Well, when I got home and he wasn't here I didn't think much of it at the time, because it's not unlike him to go wandering off. He'll walk down to the river across the street or you know, he might go up into the campground where he can be next to the river up there. I didn't think a whole lot about it. And, I had laid down and took a nap, which is something I try to do as much as I can when I'm not working because WE always work, you know, 14-hour days. It feels good to be home. And it was probably 2:30 by the time I realized that Dylan still was not home and so I'm thinking well, if he ain't gonna return my text messages and I ain't hearing my phone ringing 'cos he ain't calling me, I need to go find that boy."

[This is in my notes, but I can't find the original link. Anyone know which interview this is from?]

I just posted it, probably while you were posting yours, it's back on the previous page - it's from the uncut interview with MB.

 

[katydid23]

I don't think it's at all odd for a kid to get caught up in what they are doing and be gone for a few hours. Dylan was not a baby. Kids this age can spend all day gone off with friends. People also lose track of time and sometimes think only 30 minutes have passed when it's really been an hour or so. Not that I want to be sexist but it's usually women who are more "worried" by kid's behaviors, than fathers. Sometimes when us women start stressing about our kids it's our hubs that tell us "NOT" to over react.

My husband takes our kids safety quite seriously. If one of the kids is supposed to be somewhere and has made plans with my DH to pick them up, my DH is going to be very concerned if they are not there waiting. Concerned first, angry, second.

I cannot believe that Mark had no contact with him, and no idea where he was for SEVEN HOURS, and people are giving him a pass, by saying Men don't worry, men don't notice, no big deal. :no:

 

[margarita25]

Darn Colorado Wildfires again...

 

[Emma Ems]

Mark's home is pretty small. How could he not notice that his son wasn't there?

He never said that he didn't notice his son was not there. He noticed he STILL wasn't there, back from where MR thought he may have been, fishing, hiking, roaming the countryside. Whatever MR thought he may have been doing that Dylan usually does when he is there and not with MR and not with his friends.

 

[dlc]

That's is what you are assuming from what you read. I do not see that, and it's not a FACT.

"And, I had laid down and took a nap, which is something I try to do as much as I can when I'm not working because WE always work, you know, 14-hour days. It feels good to be home. And it was probably 2:30 by the time I realized that Dylan still was not home"



Maybe it's just in the phrasing -- it reads like he laid down and took a nap and before he knew it, it was 2:30.


JMO

 

[katydid23]

I don't know why you are saying he rarely visited there. I understand that prior to Elaine's move to Colorado Springs that Dylan spent much time with his father, including riding the school bus to his home.

Elaine has said that Mark rarely took advantage of all of his available visitation.

I think the times you are talking about were earlier, right after their divorce. In more recent times, Dylan has spent less time with Mark, according to what has been said.