CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #6

[aust amateur slueth]

question: its one road into and out of Vallecito? what would be the chances of some random person with bad intentions towards a boy traversing that road without anyone noticing something odd and no one seeing Dylan either? IMO if LE thought this was the situation then they would have asked the public to keep a look out.

it doesn't make any logical sense.

I wish we had more info about the September visit and how that went.

 

[margarita25]

I wonder if he had an actual appointment with his lawyer for Monday or just went there suddenly. I am sure LE knows, whatever the case.

Wait a minute....is there a link with what time he went to this lawyer and more info about this lawyer visit? What type of lawyer is this? Custody lawyer? Criminal lawyer? Had he seen this lawyer before? What I'm getting at is IF he went to see this lawyer before he came home and found Dylan missing, this could be important (unless the visit was strictly related to the custody issue or something else unrelated)...

 

[katydid23]

Hoping this is the case. Sudden spark of renewed hope.

For me it is a matter of 'motive.' In this case with the runaway girl, she was wanting her mom to worry and miss her and appreciate her more. I guess her mom was really hard on her all of the time so she wanted her mom to see what it would be like without her or something like that. [ 13 yr old logic is great.]

Anyhow, what would be the motive for Dylan and his friends to hide Dylan for weeks?

I can see motives for Mom, to want dad to look bad. But I do not think she was involved in this. She had primary custody and was allowed to move, so she really did not have that much to worry about, imo.

And I don't even see a reason for dad to hide Dylan anywhere. I can't think of any because eventually he would have to release him. And then what?

I think there was an accident from an argument that went sideways...

 

[Dixie811]

Jumping off Katy & Margarita's posts...

I believe the "hiding out" theory to be extremely extremely unlikely. But IF I allow myself to think along those lines, I think the only possible reason for it to continue this long is out of embarrassment-- how to end this with dignity in tact.

Again, I do not believe this is what has happened to Dylan... JMO.

 

[Yoda]

Lots of new info from dad. They went to Walmart and McDonald's. Dylan wanted to see friends that night dad said no. Dylan slept on the couch, cereal bowl beside sink from when dad returned to house. Backpack, fishing pole missing.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222

 

[margarita25]

I think there was an accident from an argument that went sideways...

very possible.

 

[Dixie811]

Lots of new info from dad. They went to Walmart and McDonald's. Dylan wanted to see friends that night dad said no. Dylan slept on the couch, cereal bowl beside sink from when dad returned to house. Backpack, fishing pole missing.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222

Great info, thanks Yoda. Finally we get a few more details.

 

[Yoda]

Also dad has contacted a defense attorney to help him with the accusations.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222

 

[margarita25]

Jumping off Katy & Margarita's posts...

I believe the "hiding out" theory to be extremely extremely unlikely. But IF I allow myself to think along those lines, I think the only possible reason for it to continue this long is out of embarrassment-- how to end this with dignity in tact.

Again, I do not believe this is what has happened to Dylan... JMO.

Indeed. Just incase, That's why I think its important for everyone to reiterate that nobody is going to get in trouble if this indeed the case, that we just want you home, we'll work it out, we're sorry for whatever we did to make you run away, just come home, nobody is in trouble, etc, etc...

But LE, neither the family, seems to think this is the case.

 

[Seajay]

You know, the is no need to be rude. I was making a comparison on how MEN handle the media when their children are missing.. If you don't like it scroll and roll, or use your ignorer button.

Hey Wendy, I get what you are saying and what point you were trying to make. Kyron's dad's reaction over his missing son isn't unlike Dylan's dad's reaction.

There are several similarities. Divorce and child custody has nothing to do with those. No case is exactly the same.

Thank you for bringing up other cases here at WS that are relevent to this case in places. I've brought up Pierre Barnes case, I've seen people bring up Jessica Ridgeway's case and Jennifer (?) Lunsford's case.

 

[Seajay]

question: its one road into and out of Vallecito? what would be the chances of some random person with bad intentions towards a boy traversing that road without anyone noticing something odd and no one seeing Dylan either? IMO if LE thought this was the situation then they would have asked the public to keep a look out.

it doesn't make any logical sense.

I wish we had more info about the September visit and how that went.

I watch a lot of documentary type stuff on Investigation Discovery and there have been several stories where people bent on violence will hit the road, then stop someplace random and maime or kill whoever happens to be in their way at any given moment. So what you are saying could be possible in scenerio like that.

 

[Seajay]

Wait a minute....is there a link with what time he went to this lawyer and more info about this lawyer visit? What type of lawyer is this? Custody lawyer? Criminal lawyer? Had he seen this lawyer before? What I'm getting at is IF he went to see this lawyer before he came home and found Dylan missing, this could be important (unless the visit was strictly related to the custody issue or something else unrelated)...

If I remember right after thousands of posts about the same thing......he visited his divorce/custody lawyer on that Monday.

 

[sorrell skye]

Also dad has contacted a defense attorney to help him with the accusations.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222

Well ain't that a surprise.

According to media reports, LE hasn't called MR a suspect (or have they, unbeknownst to the public?).

If LE hasn't accused MR of a crime, why then, the need for a defense attorney's advice regarding "accusations" - unless he's planning on bringing a libel suit? If LE hasn't accused and/or charged him with a crime, who cares what the public may think?

ETA: Furthermore - why would a father of a recently missing child be concerned with a possible libel suit? IMO, I think he was consulting an attorney because of the recent forensic search of his home & vehicles.

 

[T4Tide]

Where was this video taken? Have they searched here where the boys are swimming?

I was coming to post the same thing.


In the beginning, it was stated by family members that Dylan wasn't an "outdoorsy" type kid, but by the looks of that video, he seems VERY outdoorsy to me. And gutsy!


I know we aren't supposed to post FB comments, but one of the minors in this video posted on his FB page on 11/23 and basically reached out to Dylan. He told Dylan that he had talked to his dad, and he's not in trouble, and that Dylan's dad really misses him, and to call him and listed a few other friends Dylan could call.

 

[margarita25]

I'm just wondering. In the latest above mentioned Denver Post article, (thanks Yoda, it is stated "It's unlikely he was abducted from this home in a tiny community where everyone knows everyone else in the offseason and few lock doors."

If I'm reading this correctly, it is a statement by the reporter, right? What I'm trying to say is there have been many kids abducted from tiny communites where everyone knows everyone...In my opinion, the community itself is not a basis for ruling an abduction unlikely because predators don't have boundaries...Now, I'm not saying that the reporter is inferring this, but what I am saying is I just want to know why they keep saying it is unlikely. This is very telling to me. I don't see why this is so "unlikely" unless there is evidence otherwise!

So, in summary, there is evidence otherwise, in my opinion.

 

[katydid23]

Lots of new info from dad. They went to Walmart and McDonald's. Dylan wanted to see friends that night dad said no. Dylan slept on the couch, cereal bowl beside sink from when dad returned to house. Backpack, fishing pole missing.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222

Mark said he tried texting Dylan all afternoon in an area with spotty cellphone service. When he didn't hear anything back by late afternoon, he went to Dylan's friend's house in Vallecito. That friend hadn't seen him.
Mark became alarmed and drove the 20 miles to Bayfield. Dylan's friends there hadn't seen him either. Mark called Elaine Redwine and went to the Bayfield Marshal's Office.
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Ok. So now we know it is possible to text from Dad's house. He would not have spent the entire day texting if not.

So WHY didn't Dylan try to text anyone that morning?


And I didnt know he had a friend in Vallecito too? Why wouldn't he call that friend and hang out with him, or try to get a ride from them?

WHY would he try to hitch hike 17 miles before he tried to call or text any of these friends?

And if Dad said he was coming back at 11 to pick him up, then why try to hitch a ride? He didnt even call his friends first to see if he should hurry over or wait an hour for his dad. It makes no sense to me.

But Dad was planning on giving him a ride, and comes home, and his kid is gone. No message, no note. And he gets no reply to his first text or two.

Dylan has a friend in Vallecito, and he still waits hours before he goes to check if he is there? Hmmmmm....

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Lots of new info from dad. They went to Walmart and McDonald's. Dylan wanted to see friends that night dad said no. Dylan slept on the couch, cereal bowl beside sink from when dad returned to house. Backpack, fishing pole missing.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222

is it really new info or just a change to the story?

IMO the jury is out on which it is

 

[T4Tide]

Also, the picture with the short hair is from when Dylan was 11. His hair is longer and shaggier now. That might have been stated already, but I somehow missed this info, so I'm repeating it for anyone else that might have missed it.

 

[katydid23]

I watch a lot of documentary type stuff on Investigation Discovery and there have been several stories where people bent on violence will hit the road, then stop someplace random and maime or kill whoever happens to be in their way at any given moment. So what you are saying could be possible in scenerio like that.

True. But don't they usually dump the bodies as they go. [ sorry to even type that.]

But a random serial killer often just leaves the body and goes..and they have been searching the area for weeks.

 

[sorrell skye]

Mark said he tried texting Dylan all afternoon in an area with spotty cellphone service. When he didn't hear anything back by late afternoon, he went to Dylan's friend's house in Vallecito. That friend hadn't seen him.
Mark became alarmed and drove the 20 miles to Bayfield. Dylan's friends there hadn't seen him either. Mark called Elaine Redwine and went to the Bayfield Marshal's Office.
=======================================================

Ok. So now we know it is possible to text from Dad's house. He would not have spent the entire day texting if not.

So WHY didn't Dylan try to text anyone that morning?


And I didnt know he had a friend in Vallecito too? Why wouldn't he call that friend and hang out with him, or try to get a ride from them?

WHY would he try to hitch hike 17 miles before he tried to call or text any of these friends?

And if Dad said he was coming back at 11 to pick him up, then why try to hitch a ride? He didnt even call his friends first to see if he should hurry over or wait an hour for his dad. It makes no sense to me.

But Dad was planning on giving him a ride, and comes home, and his kid is gone. No message, no note. And he gets no reply to his first text or two.

Dylan has a friend in Vallecito, and he still waits hours before he goes to check if he is there? Hmmmmm....

IMO, it sounds as if MR may be adding to/adjusting his timeline, after meeting with investigators & hearing their questions.