CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #6

[T4Tide]

Mark said he tried texting Dylan all afternoon in an area with spotty cellphone service. When he didn't hear anything back by late afternoon, he went to Dylan's friend's house in Vallecito. That friend hadn't seen him.
Mark became alarmed and drove the 20 miles to Bayfield. Dylan's friends there hadn't seen him either. Mark called Elaine Redwine and went to the Bayfield Marshal's Office.
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Ok. So now we know it is possible to text from Dad's house. He would not have spent the entire day texting if not.

So WHY didn't Dylan try to text anyone that morning?


And I didnt know he had a friend in Vallecito too? Why wouldn't he call that friend and hang out with him, or try to get a ride from them?

WHY would he try to hitch hike 17 miles before he tried to call or text any of these friends?

And if Dad said he was coming back at 11 to pick him up, then why try to hitch a ride? He didnt even call his friends first to see if he should hurry over or wait an hour for his dad. It makes no sense to me.

But Dad was planning on giving him a ride, and comes home, and his kid is gone. No message, no note. And he gets no reply to his first text or two.

Dylan has a friend in Vallecito, and he still waits hours before he goes to check if he is there? Hmmmmm....

Just a thought, but Dylan and his dad could have two different service providers. I have AT&T, and my mother has Verizon.... two pretty common providers. However, when she is at my home, she has absolutely no service, and I do. Granted, she's too much of a tightwad to buy a plan that doesn't include roaming, and has her phone set not to roam. I didn't even know roaming still existed.

 

[WideOpen]

Meet Dylan, a very real boy, with real friends and a real family that miss him dearly! (His friend made this for him.)

https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine#!/FindMissingDylanRedwine

516992501644744 10228 - YouTube

Thank you for this. It's my first post on Dylan's thread and am in tears watching this. What a boy!

I know it's been said by his mother that Dylan was not an outdoorsy kid but I beg to differ after watching this. My girls all 6 of them wouldn't be that active outdoors in their lifetime. Maybe the difference between city kids and country kids-mine are city and I wish now after seeing Dylan they could have that beautiful God's country more than they have.

Following along and praying for you Dylan.

jmo

 

[Seajay]

The next morning, Dylan was sleeping on the couch where Mark Redwine now sits and where Dylan's blankets still lie jumbled. Mark said he waited until 7:30 a.m. but still couldn't rouse his son, so he told him he would return about 11. When he got back at 11:30, his son's dirty cereal bowl was beside the sink. The television was on Nickelodeon. His son's fishing pole was gone. So was his black-and-gray backpack. A few articles of clothing were left behind on the couch.

According to this there was some DNA evidence of Dylan being in the house. The blankets, a cereal bowl/spoon and some clothing.

Mark said he tried texting Dylan all afternoon in an area with spotty cellphone service. When he didn't hear anything back by late afternoon, he went to Dylan's friend's house in Vallecito. That friend hadn't seen him.

This addresses cell phone service again.

Lt. Ray Shupe, a spokesman for the task force, said the group has broken into teams this weekend. One is looking into all information that has come into a tip line; another is investigating the registered sex offenders who live in the Vallecito area. There are nine of them in Vallecito and Bayfield.

Doesn't look like the RSO's have all been cleared yet as a poster stated. They are still working on that.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222

 

[Seajay]

Also dad has contacted a defense attorney to help him with the accusations.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222

I'm glad to see he's done that. Dude is gonna be hung without a trial otherwise...........

 

[katydid23]

About mom saying he wasn't 'outdoorsy'----I think we need to keep it in context.

At the time she made the statement, imo, she was saying that in response to the scenario being laid out by dad, that Dylan woke up and grabbed his fishing pole and hiked 4 miles to fish all alone at the dam.

I think the point she was trying to make was that he was NOT tjhe kind of kid who goes all alone out into the outdoors to hike and fish. He is more of a social, fun loving kid who would have wanted to be with his friends. JMO

 

[sorrell skye]

It's never ceases to amuse me how a timeline changes after an "official interview" with investigators.

 

[katydid23]

According to this there was some DNA evidence of Dylan being in the house. The blankets, a cereal bowl/spoon and some clothing.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222

We don't know that for sure. I doubt the cereal bowl was still there when the forensics techs were there. It was 2 weeks already.

And the blanket wqs probably also used when he visited in September. So who knows if he used it Sunday night?

The clothing could have just been taken from his backpack...

 

[Seajay]

What time was a main question. Jeez, sorry if there were already a thousand posts about it:what:

<edit>You know, I hope I'm misinterpreting your tone here, bc I sure as hell don't jump on anyone else who asks about / mentions stuff that has already been stated a thousand times.....there are so many pages of posts here, and new information is constantly added, and as much as I am trying to keep up with every single post, its just not that easy..<edit>

What I meant was after so many posts about the same thing, I don't know if I have the true facts right any longer, not after reading all the interpretations of each detail of the case.

 

[katydid23]

It's never ceases to amuse me how a timeline changes after an "official interview" with investigators.

Original story: Dad left at 7:30 to do errands, son was out like a light, Dad returns at 11:30 and 'notices' son is missing along with fishing pole.


Version 2.o: Dad had to leave for errands, but first he nudged his boy gently awake, to promise him he would be back to give him a ride to his friends house later, and his son acknowledged everything he said, and then when he came home and found he was gone, he began texting him, and waited for a reply, all afternoon.

 

[margarita25]

What I meant was after so many posts about the same thing, I don't know if I have the true facts right any longer, not after reading all the interpretations of each detail of the case.

Thanks.

 

[SuziQ]

So why didn't MR provide dog handlers with scent items he states he had?

 

[cluciano63]

Ok then if Dylan WAS there are 7:30AM and texting was working...what would have made him get up and out without contacting anyone? Was he actually removed from the house by someone? The details coming out make it stranger than ever for me. I have kind of assumed something happened early on in the previous evening with Dad, or that Dad is completely uninvolved. I am still stuck in the same place.

 

[katydid23]

So why didn't MR provide dog handlers with scent items he states he had?

Maybe the clothing was clean still. And if he slept on the couch, he had a blanket, but maybe others used it too. ???

 

[sorrell skye]

Original story: Dad left at 7:30 to do errands, son was out like a light, Dad returns at 11:30 and 'notices' son is missing along with fishing pole.


Version 2.o: Dad had to leave for errands, but first he nudged his boy gently awake, to promise him he would be back to give him a ride to his friends house later, and his son acknowledged everything he said, and then when he came home and found he was gone, he began texting him, and waited for a reply, all afternoon.

I know - right?

And in his media appearances, he makes it a point to come across as oh so soft spoken & oh so gentle - all the while his ex-wife is describing him as something different.

Let's see - who's version will I tend to believe? Based on my expereince, I think I'll go with ER's description.

 

[Seajay]

I'm burnt out on this. I'm going to go work on other cases. This is exhausting.

 

[katydid23]

Ok then if Dylan WAS there are 7:30AM and texting was working...what would have made him get up and out without contacting anyone? Was he actually removed from the house by someone? The details coming out make it stranger than ever for me. I have kind of assumed something happened early on in the previous evening with Dad, or that Dad is completely uninvolved. I am still stuck in the same place.

So far the details are ones that ONLY dad would know about and see. The TV was set to Nick and there was a cereal bowl and spoon. I am curious if LE ever saw or tested that bowl and spoon.

And it does not answer the question of why he would hitch hike without first trying to get a ride. Or even texting his waiting friends and making sure they were still there and waiting. A group of 13 yr olds on a vacation day are usually coming and going. I can't see Dylan going out and hitching a rider 17 miles without making sure which place to hitch to. jmo

 

[katydid23]

Also, somethijng else that jumped out at me in Dad's new article.

He said that after waiting for a reply, he went over to D's friend in Vallecito, but he had not heard from him. :what:

It seems very odd that Dylan had a friend there in that same town, and he wouldnt have contacted HIM that morning. He could have ridden his bike over there if nothing else, if he was impatient waiting for dad.

But at the least he could have texted him to see if they were going to town and if he
could get a ride.

I just cannot accept the scenario that Dylan decided to hitch hike to B-town, without first contacting some of those friends and or texting his dad to see when he was coming to get him.

And now that we know that dad told him he was coming to get him at 11, it seems even less likely that he would have stomped off mad and tried to hitch a ride. imo

 

[Annie1004]

Lots of new info from dad. They went to Walmart and McDonald's. Dylan wanted to see friends that night dad said no. Dylan slept on the couch, cereal bowl beside sink from when dad returned to house. Backpack, fishing pole missing.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222

For those of you wanting a link to the information I posted earlier today stating that Dylan slept on the couch at his father's house, here is the MSM link confirming same. I know I heard it on NG or JVM last week -- it was stated by the family friend, IIRC.

 

[momrids6]

< respectfully snipped>
But I do think if LE thought a community was in any way
threatened by a lurking predator, they would make some
type of statement saying so. It's negligent and dangerous
not to and they'd be really in a rough spot if no warning
was made and a child was abducted next week in the same
area. JMO

( just wishful thinking)
Looking at just how many sexual predators there are in varying places due to the differing laws ? Sometimes one, sometimes many, really close to someone's home zone. Then look at another category of criminal. Then another, etc. Communities are threatened every single solitary day by many types of criminals. LE are in a rough spot every day because no warning is made...and it is so sad we all have to be vigilant all of the time. I wish there was a guarantee my family could be crime free on a particular day- if only a warning was given.

 

[margarita25]

Just a thought, but Dylan and his dad could have two different service providers. I have AT&T, and my mother has Verizon.... two pretty common providers. However, when she is at my home, she has absolutely no service, and I do. Granted, she's too much of a tightwad to buy a plan that doesn't include roaming, and has her phone set not to roam. I didn't even know roaming still existed.

There was a greeeeat post way back, sorry I can't remember by whom or where it was but I did respond to it as "awesome"...looking for it now...It was a link with all the providers and their reception in the area of the home...