CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #6

[nursebeeme]

folks we are NOT going to discuss the divorce or visitation situations as we do not have the documents and speculation about them is off the table.

 

[Bravo]

So LE has said ' we are not calling MR a suspect' ? Correct.
Have they said anything like ' at this time' ?
Also why not just say ' we do not have a suspect at this time' .
It seems as they are singling him OUT to not be a suspect , which means
he's likely close to being a suspect as soon as they find that one little tiny something.
Is that correct?
I mean does it not seem odd to just say nothing about a suspect or there are no suspects.

Seems they are telling the Public nothing other than nobody ruled in or out. I find lately in following cases this often happens. Until they are ready to make an arrest. If and when they have something that will hold up in Court we will see an arrest. If they have anyone on their radar I'm sure they are being watched 24/7. MOO

 

[momrids6]

<respectfully snipped>.

I've spent alot of time looking at the maps of dad's neighborhood and Vallecito lake and the general area and I guess my thinking needs to change from "someone random would stick out" to "someone who belongs there wouldn't stick out". So who might belong there? Who could potentially be driving down that "one way in, one way out" road and not raise alarms?

Just more thoughts.

Scorekeeper pointed out a "For Sale " sign on the corner across the street from the home.

 

[jennapuppy]

Sometimes it not about the child, sometimes it's all about hurting the other parent

I understand what you're saying, and I agree, but I was speaking specifically to the notion of MR kidnapping Dylan. If he kidnapped him, how is he going to keep Dylan's location a secret when there is a missing persons investigation going on?
How could he tend to Dylan unobserved with media and LE everywhere?

 

[momrids6]

So LE has said ' we are not calling MR a suspect' ? Correct.
Have they said anything like ' at this time' ?
Also why not just say ' we do not have a suspect at this time' .
It seems as they are singling him OUT to not be a suspect , which means
he's likely close to being a suspect as soon as they find that one little tiny something.
Is that correct?
I mean does it not seem odd to just say nothing about a suspect or there are no suspects.

"Bender said investigators would meet Monday night to plan search efforts for the following day.

He said there are no persons of interest in the case, and that Dylan's mom and dad have both been working closely with investigators.

"Both parents have been cooperative with not only our investigators, but FBI investigators," said Bender."

BBM

http://www.krdo.com/news/Investigat...rance/-/417220/17558900/-/im35x1/-/index.html

 

[vasportsmom]

So LE has said ' we are not calling MR a suspect' ? Correct.
Have they said anything like ' at this time' ?
Also why not just say ' we do not have a suspect at this time' .
It seems as they are singling him OUT to not be a suspect , which means
he's likely close to being a suspect as soon as they find that one little tiny something.
Is that correct?
I mean does it not seem odd to just say nothing about a suspect or there are no suspects.

That really is strange wording. "We are not calling MR a suspect" is not the same as "MR is not a suspect". It sounds more like cya wording than anything.

I made a comment the other day about having to run my son's sax to him and somebody messaged me asking if my son plays the sax. I responded:

"You will have to consider that a rumor. The facts are I bought my son a sax at his request, allowed him to sign up for band and have spent 2 years paying for additional private lessons."

This case reminds me of that. If you read between the lines you will bring ear phones if you visit me when he is practicing but I didn't say it.


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[nursebeeme]

That really is strange wording. "We are not calling MR a suspect" is not the same as "MR is not a suspect". It sounds more like cya wording than anything.

I made a comment the other day about having to run my son's sax to him and somebody messaged me asking if my son plays the sax. I responded:

"You will have to consider that a rumor. The facts are I bought my son a sax at his request, allowed him to sign up for band and have spent 2 years paying for additional private lessons."

This case reminds me of that. If you read between the lines you will bring ear phones if you visit me when he is practicing but I didn't say it.


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this is from Shupe:

Redwine has been cooperating with authorities and has not been named a suspect or person of interest, Shupe said.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...121139996/Investigators-end-search-of-house--

as for the word "calling"... it doesn't matter at this point. He is not a suspect or person of interest.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.9news.com/news/article/302104/339/Task-force-continues-search-for-missing-boy

"The Sheriff's Office is not calling Mark Redwine a suspect," Dan Bender

http://abcnews.go.com/US/investigators-search-home-missing-colo-boys-father/story?id=17840755

"We are not calling Mark Redwine a suspect," La Plata County Sheriff's spokesman Dan Bender said in a prepared statement.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingn...icials-looking-missing-teen-search-home-dylan

MARK REDWINE NOT A SUSPECT IN DISAPPEARANCE OF 13-YEAR-OLD SON

 

[Linda7NJ]

I do too but I generally wait until multiple people get a shocked look and ask if that was really the last time I had my oil changed before I give up and get it done. I hate garages. They are not female friendly. Then again there could be a connection between the blonde jokes and the length of time between my visits


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I drove my first car for 3 years without ever getting an oil change. No one ever told me anything about oil changes!! Lol maybe there is something to those blonde jokes.... Speaking only for myself of course.

 

[AlexisFresca]

Scorekeeper pointed out a "For Sale " sign on the corner across the street from the home.

Does that home belong to the family? Or was this pointed out as a possible hiding place for Dylan? Just trying to understand

 

[Houston Mom]

TRAFFIC CAMERAS IN DURANGO

http://trafficland.com/city/DRO/index.html

 

[pinkfly]

This has really gone on awfully long to have no release of information and no pressers. I wonder if the locals are wondering if there is an abductor on the loose or if they have other ideas. I worry that this really means that the LE does not have much of a handle on this case. I really hope I am wrong and they think their silence will help bring Dylan home alive.

 

[Bravo]

I understand what you're saying, and I agree, but I was speaking specifically to the notion of MR kidnapping Dylan. If he kidnapped him, how is he going to keep Dylan's location a secret when there is a missing persons investigation going on?
How could he tend to Dylan unobserved with media and LE everywhere?

That would be the best case scenario here. It would mean an accomplice caring for Dylan and he would be alive.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I understand what you're saying, and I agree, but I was speaking specifically to the notion of MR kidnapping Dylan. If he kidnapped him, how is he going to keep Dylan's location a secret when there is a missing persons investigation going on?
How could he tend to Dylan unobserved with media and LE everywhere?

I wasn't speaking about this case specifically. I was making a blanket general statement. I have known of quite a few couples that during and after divorcing spent all of their time, effort and money to hurt the other parent, using the children as pawns in the process. Hurting the other parent becomes more important than their children. I was just tossing it out there

 

[AlexisFresca]

TRAFFIC CAMERAS IN DURANGO

http://trafficland.com/city/DRO/index.html

Interesting. Wonder if LE got little, or no info from those cameras, in light of the fact they are asking for video/pictures of the route from Durango to Vellecito, verify every step as much as possible, the route from point A to point B.

 

[Bravo]

Does that home belong to the family? Or was this pointed out as a possible hiding place for Dylan? Just trying to understand

I just took it to mean that out of towners may have come to view the house.

 

[scorekeeper]

Volunteers can resume searching the area surrounding Vallecito Reservoir. Authorities earlier this week requested that they stay away for a few days while investigators canvassed the area.

Some volunteers have gone back into the area to search side roads and check any buildings they were not able to get to before authorities requested they stop, local resident Denise Hess said.


Law-enforcement officials have ruled out that Dylan ran away from home.


He was last seen Nov. 19. Authorities also have ruled out the possibility that the teenager wandered into the wilderness and got lost around Vallecito Reservoir.


&#8220;Task force members are looking at this investigation as a criminal investigation,&#8221; Shupe said in a news release.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...121139996/Investigators-end-search-of-house--

BBM

This is interesting -

first, LE thought Dylan may have been near the reservior; so LE suspended public searches - did their own - now LE doesn't believe he was lost in that area - public searches allowed back in the area

this is a criminal investigation

I think LE has incriminating evidence - this article was written yesterday

the day AFTER their other thorough/CSI SW was served and executed

JMO

 

[vasportsmom]

I wasn't speaking about this case specifically. I was making a blanket general statement. I have known of quite a few couples that during and after divorcing spent all of their time, effort and money to hurt the other parent, using the children as pawns in the process. Hurting the other parent becomes more important than their children. I was just tossing it out there

This is true is most situations. If my hate for you is greater than my love for what you hold most dear ...


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[Bravo]

Sure sounds like they got something scorekeeper lease:

 

[Rougelatete]

I wasn't speaking about this case specifically. I was making a blanket general statement. I have known of quite a few couples that during and after divorcing spent all of their time, effort and money to hurt the other parent, using the children as pawns in the process. Hurting the other parent becomes more important than their children. I was just tossing it out there

I would have to agree with you. I have seen this is my professional work as well and, as we were discussing domestic batterers in an earlier thread, I'll just throw it out there that domestic batterers often used minor children as pawns in divorce proceedings because it was the one last thing the abuser had control over and the one last way he could hurt his victim/ex-wife.