CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #6

[Dixie811]

Dylan/Him=5
I/me= 13


Yup.

I see your point, Ronso, but when I read the statement as a whole I do not get the same impression that it seems you do. JMO =)

 

[katydid23]

One thing I just thought of re: the last uncut interview with MR...(I hope I can make sense with this):

I think MR specifically states (looking for quote / need to watch interview again) that he would have no problem, and/or understands the need for Dylan to see his friends. Is he saying this due to specific accusations that this is not the case and perhaps is motive or cause for an accident, or he is he just saying this out of the blue (ugh, trying to explain this)...

Meaning, if he is not saying this in response to anything, then maybe this is an odd comment to go out of one's way to make. Ugh I know this isn't a very clear post, sorry.

Almost like a justification...

I totally understand what you are saying. His entire 'commercial' was like a PR strategy for his innocence. There was nothing there about what the nation could do to try and find his missing son. He didnt hold up a picture, describe the boy, and remind us of what he might have been wearing. He didnt ask the kidnappers to release him, or ask the truck drivers to be on the look out for a blonde, 5 ft tall scared kid. He told us all why he was a great father and why he
thought LE was so incompetent.

 

[margarita25]

That has been the scenario we have been discussing quite a bit. It is the major theory, right alongside the other, closer to home scenario.

But there are 3 major questions that arise.

1. Dad said that he told Dylan that he was coming back soon to give him a ride to his friends. So Dylan didnt need to be too upset. And why not just wait for dad to return? Or at least call dad first and find out how long before he comes back?


2. Dylan never called or texted his friends that morning. When he woke up and realized he was late in meeting them, why didn't he call and check in? He had a landline there and the numbers were in his cell phone. And WHY would he go and try to hitchhike 17 miles without calling his friends and asking if he could get a ride? Or at least telling them he was still planning to come.

3. There is only one road that leaves his town and goes into B-town. It is a long straight road, and IF Dylan had been on that road walking or hitching, someone would have seen him.
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Those are some of the questions that come up with the hitchhiking scenario.

Well stated.

 

[OneLove]

This person claims to be MR's sister, but it is the interwebs where anyone can be anyone , right? So grain of salt........... at least...

"My brother would not withhold information that would help to find his son. He has been just as upset as everyone else that his son is missing. His ex-wife Elaine and his other son Cory have been in the media, but he is himself just as distraught as they are over the disappearance of Dylan.

As far as the custody dispute, a lot of couples go through bitter and angry divorces, and as I have said before, children sometimes hear things that they were not meant to hear and interpret them as something entirely different than what it was meant to be. I do know that Dylan loved both his parents and his brother and his brothers from a prior marriage.

Unfortunately, in situations like this, they are going to look at my brother as having something to do with this, but they should be looking at both parents and or anyone involved or related to their divorce proceedings. As mothers and siblings have in the past had involvement in cases like this to get back at the other parent or parents if it is a sibling. Sad, but true.

In any case, that is all I have to say at the time. As now it is going on the 8th day of Dylan’s disappearance, and I am just praying to hear some news soon. Hopefully we will hear something from my brother soon hear on our end. Until then, all I have is hope that Dylan will be found." ....Bridget Redwine-Simmers; [link removed]
http://siriunsun.blogspot.com/


Is it strange she says '' children sometimes hear things that they were not meant to hear and interpret them as something entirely different than what it was meant to be'''
and ''they are going to look at my brother as having something to do with this, but they should be looking at both parents and or anyone involved or related to their divorce proceedings. As mothers and siblings have in the past had involvement in cases like this to get back at the other parent or parents if it is a sibling. Sad, but true. '''

When I read "he's been just as upset as everyone else", my mind read "competition/ contention in the family"

And on children hearing things they shouldn't and interpreting them differently , my mind interpreted that as "older son or both boys heard MR say something really really nasty or threatening and have been distant emotionally from dad since"

And then, quite obviously, she is creating suspicion of not just ER, but Dylan's older brother too, as to harm toward Dylan to get back at MR. Why would she do that? Why would she even do that? I am floored.

An earlier interview of MR in the video store asked him what plans he had made for Thanksgiving with his son. He fumbled around a few 'possibilities' with no plans having actually been made. One of the 'possibilities' was going to see his brother in Castle Rock for Thanksgiving. Isn't that quite a drive? And isn't it close to where Dylan would have been anyway had he been allowed to go see his grandmother and be in cherished family heirloom photos for posterity? I wondered when I watched that interview if his brother knew anything at all about Mark's plans to bring Dylan for Thanksgiving. Had he even been invited? When I see this sister from the linked article above implying that she hasn't heard anything from Mark, it makes me even more suspicious about the lack of plans for Thanksgiving.

 

[Indy Anna]

I had read something which sounded totally ridiculous at the time, but the harder it is to think of ways for him to still be alive, the more possible it seems. Is there any way that one of his friends could be hiding him out in his home without the parents knowing? I could definitely see 13 year olds trying, but I don't know if they'd ever be able to pull it off this long. If he was at the friend's house, there'd be no need to use his phone to contact him, his friends could bring him food, etc., and if he stayed quiet while the friend was gone and someone else was home, I'm almost starting to think it might be possible, and it would explain why his friends were so quick to suggest that he might have hitchhiked (maybe he did) and a stranger took him away (but maybe he was just dropped off in Bayfield). Either that or I need more sleep and another round of antibiotics. :waitasec:

I remember reading something like that earlier. But, it would be kind of hard to hide from the parents. ("Hey, we just ate. Where are you going with that plate of food?") The friend's parents would have detected him by now and not approved. Also, I think Dylan would realize by now how frantic his family is and come out of hiding. There's a slim possibility he headed for his friend's house (but a very loooong walk; why wouldn't he ride his bicycle; would he have enough money for a taxi service?) and was picked up by a pedo. That would not be a promising scenario.

I first read about the case on a FB post and in the media. My first impression, because of the sightings, was that he and a pal had gone on an adventure. But the sightings were false and with the passing of time this scenario seems highly unlikely. No other children have been reported missing in that area. I didn't start reading Dylan's thread here for a few days, thinking he would show up, but when he didn't I became concerned and started reading here. I was like "oh, no" because it appeared obvious to me what happened. Maybe it isn't so obvious after all, but I've feared that foul play, other than a stranger kidnapping, is involved and it appears that's the direction LE are now taking.

 

[cluciano63]

LE is the one making it sound as though he did not leave the house on foot and take a ride with a stranger; at least this is what I am getting. They seem to be slowly narrowing down options. But to me, it is the thing that makes the most sense, surely more sense than being abducted from the house that morning, or his father killing him sometime after he landed. The only thing holding me back is if he did not even try to use his phone after 8pm the night before, I wish we knew more about that. LE makes it sound as though there was no activity at all, not even attempted calls or texts. I cannot see Dylan doing anything in the morning without trying to contact someone first.

 

[margarita25]

I totally understand what you are saying. His entire 'commercial' was like a PR strategy for his innocence. There was nothing there about what the nation could do to try and find his missing son. He didnt hold up a picture, describe the boy, and remind us of what he might have been wearing. He didnt ask the kidnappers to release him, or ask the truck drivers to be on the look out for a blonde, 5 ft tall scared kid.

Again, well stated, I would have to agree with this. I don't believe this has anything to do with the "t" word, but rather a hit on the "hinky meter". (I hope we can use those words? I sure like them.)

Oh my goodness, I have to throw this in for levity, I hope its appropriate...My poor puppy has gas (she stole a block a cheese)...Anyway, she is asleep next to me, she keeps tooting and gets scared and jumps up and looks around like "what was that?!!"...It is the cutest thing in the world, poor thing.

 

[OneLove]

Also, another comment from the same video store interview was about flights for Dylan. MR mentioned Dylan's last flight having a connection and layover being an issue "for Dylan's mother". I took note that his focus was on ER not liking it, NOT on Dylan's best interests. Anyway, MR said in this interview that he flew him directly this time, but added something about the earlier flight being round trip and I thought "is he implying Dylan came for Thanksgiving on a ONE WAY flight?"

I don't know how to bring the link here, but if anyone can, I'd be curious what anyone else thinks about that.

 

[i8mypaint]

This person claims to be MR's sister, but it is the interwebs where anyone can be anyone , right? So grain of salt........... at least...

<modsnip> [link removed]

http://siriunsun.blogspot.com/


Is it strange she says <modsnip> and <modsnip>

I used "interweb" when that one person appeared ONCE, saying they were related. I see most of us who comment regularly and follow many cases and I believe what you say. But because I do not trust the "interweb" I am quite cenacle and I really super duper really appreciate the phrase

 

[vasportsmom]

But what if he sent them there, hoping they would think the boy had fallen into the lake or been abducted there. Maybe he wanted them there for a reason, which is why he told them urgently about the missing fishing pole.

I weighed that so many times. I finally came to the conclusion you just expressed. It would much better for MR if they find Dylan at the lake. He can hope for a drowning or at the very least an inconclusive ruling. If he isn't found the pressure and focus will be on him for a very long time.


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[hogwash]

is Thorton close by?

Its about 6 hours away, according to the article I read

 

[Confusion]

I remember reading something like that earlier. But, it would be kind of hard to hide from the parents. ("Hey, we just ate. Where are you going with that plate of food?") The friend's parents would have detected him by now and not approved. Also, I think Dylan would realize by now how frantic his family is and come out of hiding. There's a slim possibility he headed for his friend's house (but a very loooong walk; why wouldn't he ride his bicycle; would he have enough money for a taxi service?) and was picked up by a pedo. That would not be a promising scenario.

I first read about the case on a FB post and in the media. My first impression, because of the sightings, was that he and a pal had gone on an adventure. But the sightings were false and with the passing of time this scenario seems highly unlikely. No other children have been reported missing in that area. I didn't start reading Dylan's thread here for a few days, thinking he would show up, but when he didn't I became concerned and started reading here. I was like "oh, no" because it appeared obvious to me what happened. Maybe it isn't so obvious after all, but I've feared that foul play, other than a stranger kidnapping, is involved and it appears that's the direction LE are now taking.

I agree that it's extremely unlikely, but they could wait until the parents are in bed for him to eat and/or he could possibly eat while everybody's at work and school. The biggest problem would be figuring out how to reappear after all this time. I'm trying to avoid the possibilities that are most likely because there have been enough cases that end that way lately. Oh well, I tried.

 

[OneLove]

I weighed that so many times. I finally came to the conclusion you just expressed. It would much better for MR if they find Dylan at the lake. He can hope for a drowning or at the very least an inconclusive ruling. If he isn't found the pressure and focus will be on him for a very long time.


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Yes yes! And if he isn't found, MR will continue to owe child support to Elaine until he is found, or until he is declared legally dead, which might take 7 years?

I can see his hurry in getting them to that lake. And I wonder if he has asked his lawyer yet if he still has to pay if Dylan is missing. And I wonder if that was one of the questions he had for his lawyer Monday morning. :what:

 

[katydid23]

I had read something which sounded totally ridiculous at the time, but the harder it is to think of ways for him to still be alive, the more possible it seems. Is there any way that one of his friends could be hiding him out in his home without the parents knowing? I could definitely see 13 year olds trying, but I don't know if they'd ever be able to pull it off this long. If he was at the friend's house, there'd be no need to use his phone to contact him, his friends could bring him food, etc., and if he stayed quiet while the friend was gone and someone else was home, I'm almost starting to think it might be possible, and it would explain why his friends were so quick to suggest that he might have hitchhiked (maybe he did) and a stranger took him away (but maybe he was just dropped off in Bayfield). Either that or I need more sleep and another round of antibiotics. :waitasec:

I know of a situation like that--went on for a few weeks. A girl at my DD's middle school ran away. She had been fighting with her mom a lot and left a noter saying she was going to San Francisco to find her dad.

Turns out, she spent 2 weeks in her best friends bedroom. Her friend lived with a single dad, and he rarely barged into his daughters room. He was careful to always knock, and he worked long hours, so he never noticed LOL

But it is possible but not probable, if that makes sense.

 

[i8mypaint]

Its about 6 hours away, according to the article I read

Not even close, we used to go to vallacito for camping weekend trips, I grew up in Westminster. Hours upon hours in the motor home... When I was a teen I hated every minute of that drive!

 

[cluciano63]

I wonder if he had an actual appointment with his lawyer for Monday or just went there suddenly. I am sure LE knows, whatever the case.

 

[i8mypaint]

Sorry I meant not even close to Thornton

 

[i8mypaint]

I wonder if he had an actual appointment with his lawyer for Monday or just went there suddenly. I am sure LE knows, whatever the case.

I think he actually had an appointment and it was cleared by LE. If I'm wrong please tell me.

 

[vasportsmom]

Not being snarky, is there a link for this? Please and thanks.

http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/302378/222/Missing-boys-father-denies-involvement


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[jjenny]

I think he actually had an appointment and it was cleared by LE. If I'm wrong please tell me.

LE just said he was where he said he was during his errands. They never said whether he made this appointment in advance or if it was sudden.