CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #7

[CALSAR]

They leave a huge bloody mess where they kill their prey. After their prey is dead, they may feed on it at that site or drag it. There is a huge bloody trail when they drag their meal. If this is why Dylan disappeared, there would be a lot of evidence. Large scavenger birds would also appear near the site and would be more prevalent in the sky. (My niece's horse and llama were partial eaten by a mountain lion last year.)

Here is a link to this very website detailing the case I referred to when I suggested this possibility.

Now remember, I held this boys skull and jaw bone in the very hands that I am typing this post with.

There was not a drop of blood and the area were the body parts were found a year later had been searched 20-40 times during the nine days the active search was occurring.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-24284.html

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

BBM

But if he was bored and impatient, why wouldn't he contact his friends? Why would he attempt to hitchhike 20 miles, without calling his friends first? He could have asdked for a ride, or at the very least, asked if they were still going to be there. He was supposed to be there at 6:30 am. If he decide to hitch a ride at 9 or 10, wouldnt he ask if they were still there waiting, before he set off on his trip?

And why not call and see if he could get a ride before he tried to hike and/or hitchhike the 20 miles? Or why not call or text his dad to see what time he was coming back? he apparently had some cereal and watched Nickelodean when he woke up. What time was that?
His dad said he was coming back at 11 to give him a lift.After he woke up, had some cereal and watched some cartoons, what time was it? Was 11 am really so far away that he needed to hitchhike? That is hard for me to accept.

And this is what keeps eating a way at me. AND if he was going to try to hitchhike/walk into town was he not afraid his Dad might be on his way back home and see him?

Him not contacting his friends (when he was obviously very late) is the strangest thing of all to me. If they were a 5-10 minute walk away I can see him just taking a chance they were still there and heading over but they lived a long ways away.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

SBM

Then , if it happened like that, there IS evidence that Dylan was there Sun. night. And why didn't MR produce the spoon/cereal bowl for the tracking dogs ? Then Dylans' mom wouldn't have had to bring clothes for the sar dogs.
Just saying.

a)I was not arguing this whole case, just this point made that his story is changing. His story could be very much the same as what he originally told LE.

b)Dirty dishes for tracking?

c)Did you see the article Yoda posted last night saying that there was an outfit, cereal bowl, and crumbled linens left behind? We do know the ER was asked to bring clothes for tracking. We do not know if that was because MR did not have dirty clothes, or if his were found unsuitable, or if the dogs simply hadn't arrived yet and it was a precaution based on ER's concerns that MR was involved. If she said "I know it was him" than good police work would be to have her bring clothes in case the clothes MR provided were tainted at all. That would be wise. Being told that she brought in scent articles does not mean they were the only scent articles provided.

Right now we do NOT know if they can substantiate that Dylan made it to dad's Sunday night or not. We only have his word that Dylan arrived. I think that's the big piece of the puzzle that is needed, and LE seems to be working on it.

Look, I'm not arguing guilt or innocence. I don't have a judgment yet. All I'm pointing out is that we get tid-bits and extrapolate from them, as is human nature. So when we get new data we need to consider that we may have extrapolated inaccurately rather than assume the new data is a inaccurate or a contradiction.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

But Dylan doesn't live with dad, so dad is unlikely to know how Dylan texts. Divorce was in 2007. So dad has not lived with Dylan in a long time.

I would think even more so that they text then. My daughter lives 3000 miles away and we text daily.

 

[jjenny]

I would think even more so that they text then. My daughter lives 3000 miles away and we text daily.

I don't know how close of relationship Dylan had with his father. They might not be texting often.

 

[vasportsmom]

SBM

Then , if it happened like that, there IS evidence that Dylan was there Sun. night. And why didn't MR produce the spoon/cereal bowl for the tracking dogs ? Then Dylans' mom wouldn't have had to bring clothes for the sar dogs.
Just saying.

Even if those items could be used, MR was home for a number of hours before reporting Dylan missing. It wouldn't be odd for him to have maybe straightened up the living room, loaded the dishwasher etc. At that point he presumably thought Dylan was safe with friends and would have no reason to imagine preserving those items would ever become important.


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[Psychic Sleuth]

Something is not right with that phone going off at 8pm the night before he supposedly went missing and never coming back on again.

 

[katydid23]

Interesting "new" article(s) from last night where we get a few more details from dad about that Monday morning.... more specifics ---> more questions ---> more confusion.

Given LE's own description of their initial search of MR's house in the day(s) after Dylan went missing, I'm guessing almost none of the details dad gave are verifiable... the cereal bowl is likely to have been rinsed if not washed, the clothes are likely not in place (and likely were not photographed or noted by LE during the first search of home)... the home wasn't treated as a potential crime scene (potential break in, abduction, staged crime, etc). The nature of the first search and now the search on Thursday w/the SW left a week-and-a-half to alter the home, potentially.

My daily refrain remains the same today... a little baffled and frustrated about the specifics we're hearing on the task force's work:


I'm sorry, and I know I would be the absolute worst PITA family member of a missing loved one, but we're two weeks out and this weekend the task force broke into groups to dig into RSO's?? It makes my stomach turn. I have to believe what's going on is top notch but it seems very slow to me; this could be my emotions trumping reality, as nothing is fast enough when there's a missing child and there's no sign of him after 2 weeks.

It's extremely hard for me to believe that LE is unable to verify many of the things we spend so much time& so many pages of threads lamenting over. Especially as details trickle out, like dad telling MSM he and Dylan went to Walmart and McDonalds. It seems MR is cooperating with LE and has been all along, the only question is, is he being honest about everything... if he is, we're really only dealing with that 4 hour time frame of 7:30-11:30 where Dylan went missing and MR is not involved (directly). If he's not being completely forthcoming-- is it because his memory is faulty due to stress, is he trying to minimize some lesser miscue, or he is flat out lying?

If MR's story is completely accurate, which is a possibility, it's down to those 4 hours + any premeditation, communication, or planning that took place in the hours or weeks earlier on someone else's part to take Dylan. I'm struggling to believe that someone or someone(s) were able to take/abduct/hurt Dylan within basically a 23 hour maximum time frame (6pm Sunday - 5pm Monday... being liberal with the time)... with no witnesses, evidence, DNA, trace, whatsoever. And we know LE knows much more than we do, but they're not able to get closer to something concrete (seemingly).

I don' t think they had a 23 hr window--unless Dad was included.

An RSO or random abductor only had from 7:30 until 11:30 am. And they had to get Dylan to bring his backpack and most of his belongings along with him.

 

[LietKynes]

Something is not right with that phone going off at 8pm the night before he supposedly went missing and never coming back on again.

SBM

Seems as if the phone silence has everyone worried !
I'm assuming ALL the texts made by Dylan happened before 8 pm.
When was the last time anyone SPOKE with Dylan ?

 

[byo]

Something is not right with that phone going off at 8pm the night before he supposedly went missing and never coming back on again.

Jumping-off your post:




Possible scenerio:

The phone is dying in the car on the way home. Dad suggests to turn it off until they get home, and put it on the charger.

Dylan complies, and proceeds to nod off to sleep.

When they arrive at Mark's house, Dylan is awakened and it's time to off-load the truck; the phone is forgotten.

The phone could have fallen under the truck seat. The phone might have fallen out in the house.

When Dylan awakes in the morning, Mark is gone, and Dylan's not really even sure if he talked to his dad that morning. Plus now, he can't find his phone, and his friends are expecting him.

We don't know if LE has found the phone . . . do we?


:seeya:

 

[jjenny]

SBM

Seems as if the phone silence has everyoneworried.

Because Dylan is normally a prolific cell phone user.
So obviously absence of cell phone use is very worrying.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I wonder just how upset Dylan was that he couldn't go to his friends that night? I wonder what kind of attitude he got with Dad? A 13 year old can get quite an attitude.

 

[cluciano63]

If Dylan's phone broke or crashed at 8pm, I can't believe he would not have told him father, probably in a panic.

 

[nikb]

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Unless he somehow dropped or damaged the phone when he woke up Monday morning. That is the only possibility I can come up with for why he didn't use the phone Monday.

Not saying that was what happened, but it is a possibility (says the mom who has a son who not once, but twice, dropped his cell phone in the toilet.) That's the only scenario that I can think of that would fit the story as we have been given it.

Otherwise I have to agree that the phone not being turned back on Monday makes no sense for a 13 year old boy.

The only other possibility I can think of re: the phone is if his dad took it from him for some reason on Sunday night - maybe trying to visit and irritated that Dylan kept texting and not fully paying attention or something? And then he forgot to give it back Monday or figured he'd give it back when he got home from his errands?

I would think he would've mentioned that by now, both to LE and the media, so it seems pretty unlikely but it's another thought I've had.

ETA: I know that Dylan had the phone on him, so if dad did take it from him Sunday night, Dylan must've found it on Monday. I dunno... I think I just talked myself out of this even being a possiblity.

 

[jjenny]

Jumping-off your post:




Possible scenerio:

The phone is dying in the car on the way home. Dad suggests to turn it off until they get home, and put it on the charger.

Dylan complies, and proceeds to nod off to sleep.

When they arrive at Mark's house, Dylan is awakened and it's time to off-load the truck; the phone is forgotten.

The phone could have fallen under the truck seat. The phone might have fallen out in the house.

When Dylan awakes in the morning, Mark is gone, and Dylan's not really even sure if he talked to his dad that morning. Plus now, he can't find his phone, and his friends are expecting him.

We don't know if LE has found the phone . . . do we?


:seeya:

There is nothing to suggest LE found the phone. And they looked for it right from the start.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

Something is not right with that phone going off at 8pm the night before he supposedly went missing and never coming back on again.

I started thinking, and wondering if Dylan might of misplaced his cell phone while he was in town with dad, and he had forgotten his charger at his mothers....Just my thought on those two things. That could be reason enough for the phone to be off, and stay off. That could also explain why he wouldn't call his friends if he was planning on coming to there home by hitching a ride....lord knows I hardly can even remember my own phone number these days.

 

[jjenny]

The only other possibility I can think of re: the phone is if his dad took it from him for some reason on Sunday night - maybe trying to visit and irritated that Dylan kept texting and not fully paying attention or something? And then he forgot to give it back Monday or figured he'd give it back when he got home from his errands?

I would think he would've mentioned that by now, both to LE and the media, so it seems pretty unlikely but it's another thought I've had.

Then he would have said so to the police. Police said that during even first search they looked for the cell phone, so father didn't tell them that he had it.

 

[cluciano63]

I started thinking, and wondering if Dylan might of misplaced his cell phone while he was in town with dad, and he had forgotten his charger at his mothers....Just my thought on those two things. That could be reason enough for the phone to be off, and stay off. That could also explain why he wouldn't call his friends if he was planning on coming to there home by hitching a ride....lord knows I hardly can even remember my own phone number these days.

No way his dad wouldn't know if he lost his phone; it would be a major crisis. Same if it stopped working.

 

[jjenny]

I started thinking, and wondering if Dylan might of misplaced his cell phone while he was in town with dad, and he had forgotten his charger at his mothers....Just my thought on those two things. That could be reason enough for the phone to be off, and stay off. That could also explain why he wouldn't call his friends if he was planning on coming to there home by hitching a ride....lord knows I hardly can even remember my own phone number these days.

His mother would have known if he had forgotten the charger at home.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

The only other possibility I can think of re: the phone is if his dad took it from him for some reason on Sunday night - maybe trying to visit and irritated that Dylan kept texting and not fully paying attention or something? And then he forgot to give it back Monday or figured he'd give it back when he got home from his errands?

I would think he would've mentioned that by now, both to LE and the media, so it seems pretty unlikely but it's another thought I've had.

Didn't Dad report the cell phone and charger as missing along with Dylan?