CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #8

[PlainJaneDoe]

Glad you called and got through...

Can you tell us who answered the question? LE or not LE?

I'm DVR'ing the show, it'll be a last minute tossup between her and the Giants game... depending on my mood.

Fooooootballl! :great:

 

[kkdj]

I dont think Dylan was abused I think Mom was!
I guess ill have to wait and see.
I think if Dylan was abused we wouldnt be sitting here.
He would never have gone.

And do you think mom is continuing to be abused?

 

[Ransom]

I've noticed this before as I inch along the satellite maps of this area

(kinda O/T)

on CR500 north of the Vallecito Lake, right near Chain Lakes there's an aptly named resort called Wit's End Resort.

Somewhat appropriate during this investigation, no?

(Their resort does look beautiful)

Let's all make reservations there!!! Does seemed aptly named for our merry band of sleuthers.

 

[Seek&Find]

I think it's bad enough that MR has been accused here so many times without projecting the accusations onto his own son. I have seen absolutely nothing that CR has said that would indicate this.

I was responding to this post that posited the "if" first, and my post likewise says "if".

Well, if Cory thought Dad killed Dylan, I don't think he would sit anywhere near him.. IMO

 

[Eileen730]

And do you think mom is continuing to be abused?

Well they said orders of protection before and after the divorce. that to me says this was between Mom and dad. Even if mom and dad hate each other
dosent mean the kids hate too.

I can understand her fears tho its not a good situation to be in.
Abusive men can be the nicest guys on the face of the earth
To everyone else. Most ppl dont have a clue.

I dont think she is being abused now but I think she has firsthand knowledge of his temper. JMO

If you notice he has never denied the charges he just says dont focus on me
focus on Dylan.

 

[Seajay]

Out the gate, the mother struck the first blow when she accused her ex of doing something to the boy and that blow resonated around the U.S. Well, at least it resonated here at WS.

He's been playing catch up ever since. I imagine she has all kinds of support as the "innocent" parent who was in another town when the boy disappeared, I just wonder how much support the father has since he's the one under the microscope?

If he didn't do anything to his son, if what he says is true, this is about 300x worse for him than it will ever be for her.

 

[katydid23]

You probably aren't behind at all. We are just spinning our wheels. There really hasn't been anything new except yesterday we found out Dylan slept on couch, left a cereal bowl in kitchen, left some clothes behind, and Nickelodeon was on the tv.

Or, at least Dad said so. :angel:

 

[Eileen730]

Out the gate, the mother struck the first blow when she accused her ex of doing something to the boy and that blow resonated around the U.S. Well, at least it resonated here at WS.

He's been playing catch up ever since. I imagine she has all kinds of support as the "innocent" parent who was in another town when the boy disappeared, I just wonder how much support the father has since he's the one under the microscope?

If he didn't do anything to his son, if what he says is true, this is about 300x worse for him than it will ever be for her.

Well why not believe her if there are orders of protection out there? Not sure she is not being truthfull
I know if my son was missing and he was with his dad and dad has these anger issues Nothing would keep me quiet.

I think she is being truthfull and is saying exactly what she thinks and feels.

JMO

 

[kkdj]

Well they said orders of protection before and after the divorce. that to me says this was between Mom and dad. Even if mom and dad hate each other
dosent mean the kids hate too.

I can understand her fears tho its not a good situation to be in.
Abusive men can be the nicest guys on the face of the earth
To everyone else. Most ppl dont have a clue.

I dont think she is being abused now but I think she has firsthand knowledge of his temper. JMO

If you notice he has never denied the charges he just says dont focus on me
focus on Dylan.

Well, I guess my question is, is this further abuse?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Or, at least Dad said so. :angel:

Yes, to the media where everyone including LE could hear it but imo LE already knew this before it came out publicly.

IMO

 

[OtherEyes]

Glad you called and got through...

Can you tell us who answered the question? LE or not LE?

I'm DVR'ing the show, it'll be a last minute tossup between her and the Giants game... depending on my mood.

To be honest I don't know who the lady was, you only get to hear the part of the show while you are waiting for them to address you. Then after my question they were answering it and I didn't get to hear the whole thing because then they went back to the producer and she said to me "Thank you, that was great!" So I only got a snippet.:sigh:That's the story of our lives here...A snippet here, a snippet there!:waiting:

 

[Seajay]

Well why not believe her if there are orders of protection out there? Not sure she is not being truthfull
I know if my son was missing and he was with his dad and dad has these anger issues Nothing would keep me quiet.

I think she is being truthfull and is saying exactly what she thinks and feels.

JMO

But what if she's wrong??? What if MR is innocent and didn't do anything to his son??? The court of public opinion has been horrible to him based on what she said.

 

[Seek&Find]

If I try to imagine being mom, sending my son to see dad, he goes missing the first day he's there, he won't return our calls or texts trying to figure out what happened and how, while sitting anxiously for almost a week (at that time), things being said about my son don't seem to ring true with what I know, and I'm scared and likely sleepless, and especially if I'm privy to other reasons for concerns, and LE hasn't told me not to state my concerns, I can see them spilling out. She may, from past and/or current info, have reason to honestly be concerned that he could in some way be involved. LE hasn't ruled anyone out yet. Honestly stated concerns are very different to me than going into past squabbles abt direct vs transfer flights, insisting (now) that they should meet, especially after not responding to her before. I haven't seen her rushing to make daily accusations that dad did it or anything like that.

It's intriguing to me that some don't question dad's statements, but do mom's. I'm curious about both. :dunno:

Moo

 

[Seajay]

I guess this is what has me still firmly planted on the fence.

Other TYPE A type killers are OUT THERE and IN YOUR FACE with LE and the media .. not shy, willing to talk, TOO MUCH .. almost taunting .. etc.

I don't see this.

Of course, we don't know him and have barely seen enough of him to form a valid opinion .. but I'm struggling with him as a killer .. especially one that planned this and did away with Dylan before they even got home.. as some have suggested.

Where in the heck is that kid??

I think he looks tired, like he hasn't slept for days, like he's in emotional agony over the disappearance of his child. My heart goes out to him and Dylan's family. This is a tough time for all of them.

 

[Eileen730]

But what if she's wrong??? What if MR is innocent and didn't do anything to his son??? The court of public opinion has been horrible to him based on what she said.

Well lets say he didnt do anything to him.
Those protective orders are still out there they dont go away.
Seems to me she had reason to say what what she did
she has never gone back to apologize either like she said it in the heat of the moment because she is angry.

I think she believes he harmed their son.
I dont think she is the only one.

All JMO

 

[kkdj]

You know what?!?!
If my child were missing, my first and foremost focus would be finding my kid!!!

Now, if I believed I knew who did something to my child I would scream it out to anybody who would listen!

If mom didn't believe dad was the culprit she would want us to be open to look elsewhere!

She's not trying to get back at him! She's trying to find her baby!!!

Jmo

 

[Rougelatete]

This is such a sad, frustrating case. I poured myself into my work today, trying not think about it (for sanity's sake) but Dylan and his adorable little face kept popping into my head. I came on here tonight to see if there were any updates, refreshed my google searches....and nothing.

All we know is that Dylan is missing, it is highly likely something horrible happened to him one way or another, and we don't have many answers.

I'm taking a moment now to send out a silent prayer for answers and resolution for Dylan's sake....

raying:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Well why not believe her if there are orders of protection out there? Not sure she is not being truthfull
I know if my son was missing and he was with his dad and dad has these anger issues Nothing would keep me quiet.

I think she is being truthfull and is saying exactly what she thinks and feels.

JMO

Im not sure she is being truthful. What happened between her and Mark has nothing to do with his love for Dylan and I highly doubt he has been abusive to his child or the Judge wouldnt have given him the right to see Dylan alone for a week at a time. Dylan was just there for a visit in September.

Frankly I think he is being railroaded by his ex who wants to blame someone...anyone no matter if they did it or not.

She may be telling how she feels and thinks but I dont think she has one thing to back up her accusations that he has harmed his child. Thats the problem imo.

I had a RO against my ex but he was the best father ever to his children. He never hit me in front of them either and today he isnt even that man he use to be. He has changed completely and has profusely asked for our forgiveness long ago. No matter what happened between he and I ...........I would never accuse him of something this horrific unless I knew LE had the evidence that said he was guilty. I sure wouldnt play leap frog and say it beforehand.

IMO

 

[Eileen730]

If I try to imagine being mom, sending my son to see dad, he goes missing the first day he's there, he won't return our calls or texts trying to figure out what happened and how, while sitting anxiously for almost a week (at that time), things being said about my son don't seem to ring true with what I know, and I'm scared and likely sleepless, and especially if I'm privy to other reasons for concerns, and LE hasn't told me not to state my concerns, I can see them spilling out. She may, from past and/or current info, have reason to honestly be concerned that he could in some way be involved. LE hasn't ruled anyone out yet. Honestly stated concerns are very different to me than going into past squabbles abt direct vs transfer flights, insisting (now) that they should meet, especially after not responding to her before. I haven't seen her rushing to make daily accusations that dad did it or anything like that.

It's intriguing to me that some don't question dad's statements, but do mom's. I'm curious about both. :dunno:

Moo

I agree with you!

 

[Seajay]

If I try to imagine being mom, sending my son to see dad, he goes missing the first day he's there, he won't return our calls or texts trying to figure out what happened and how, while sitting anxiously for almost a week (at that time), things being said about my son don't seem to ring true with what I know, and I'm scared and likely sleepless, and especially if I'm privy to other reasons for concerns, and LE hasn't told me not to state my concerns, I can see them spilling out. She may, from past and/or current info, have reason to honestly be concerned that he could in some way be involved. LE hasn't ruled anyone out yet. Honestly stated concerns are very different to me than going into past squabbles abt direct vs transfer flights, insisting (now) that they should meet, especially after not responding to her before. I haven't seen her rushing to make daily accusations that dad did it or anything like that.

It's intriguing to me that some don't question dad's statements, but do mom's. I'm curious about both. :dunno:

Moo

As am I. About not questioning the mom's as well as the dad's.

Time will tell. I have issues with the phone silence of Dylan's, not of his fathers. I think it would depend on what was going on when she tried getting ahold of him. He may have been in police interviews or they may have been going through is house to look for clues at the time. I wouldn't pick up the phone at that time.