CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #8

[Seajay]

Im not sure she is being truthful. What happened between her and Mark has nothing to do with his love for Dylan and I highly doubt he has been abusive to his child or the Judge wouldnt have given him the right to see Dylan alone for a week at a time. Dylan was just there for a visit in September.

Frankly I think he is being railroaded by his ex who wants to blame someone...anyone no matter if they did it or not.

She may be telling how she feels and thinks but I dont think she has one thing to back up her accusations that he has harmed his child. Thats the problem imo.

I had a RO against my ex but he was the best father ever to his children. He never hit me in front of them either and today he isnt even that man he use to be. He has changed completely and has profusely asked for our forgiveness long ago. No matter what happened between he and I ...........I would never accuse him of something this horrific unless I knew LE had the evidence that said he was guilty. I sure wouldnt play leap frog and say it beforehand.

IMO

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Can we be friends?? Hang out, go swimming or something some time? LOL j/k about the swimming part.

 

[looks like rain]

Well why not believe her if there are orders of protection out there? Not sure she is not being truthfull
I know if my son was missing and he was with his dad and dad has these anger issues Nothing would keep me quiet.

I think she is being truthfull and is saying exactly what she thinks and feels.

JMO

I tend to agree!

 

[SmoothOperator]

moo..moo

In addition to the issues with dad's statements the one single, solitary issue for me that is impossible to explain away is the very simple fact that according to dad Dylan spent the night there, refused to get up to go to his friends the following morning(the same friends that dad repeats were so very very important to Dylan to go spend time with) but rather slept in, and then somehow supposedly set out to get to his friends after 730 Monday morning...

Yet Dylan's phone has never once been powered on since Sunday night..you simply cannot explain that away. There is zero possibility that Dylan's phone would not have been CHARGED AND POWERED ON MONDAY MORNING WHATEVER TIME WHEN DYLAN GOT UP..

I DON'T CARE IF DYLAN WAS SICK, IN A BAD MOOD, SAD, OR ANY OTHER HUMAN EMOTION THERE IS..DYLAN REDWINE WOULD HAVE POWERED THAT PHONE ON REGARDLESS OF HOW HE FELT, WHAT , OR WHERE HE WANTED TO GO..HIS CELL PHONE WOULD HAVE BEEN POWERED ON, PERIOD!

 

[Seek&Find]

IMO, she's not interested in "railroading" anyone. Her focus is on finding Dylan. And for all the statements criticizing those just trying to analyze info and interviews with Dad, it seems ironic to then criticize or accuse mom.

Moo

 

[LotusPawprint]

Let's all make reservations there!!! Does seemed aptly named for our merry band of sleuthers.

I wonder if they have group rates. And special activites for us like:
Sleuthers Spa,
Mods Meditation,
Speculation Smores
Can-You-Provide-A-Link Canoeing
bbm Birdwatching

lol.. They should definetly do custom packages like this.

 

[kalekona]

If she suspects Dad she clearly should express that to LE- but by voicing those accusations in the media she turns the public eye to her ex rather than on finding her son.
I think it does more damage than it does good.

 

[Eileen730]

Im not sure she is being truthful. What happened between her and Mark has nothing to do with his love for Dylan and I highly doubt he has been abusive to his child or the Judge wouldnt have given him the right to see Dylan alone for a week at a time. Dylan was just there for a visit in September.

Frankly I think he is being railroaded by his ex who wants to blame someone...anyone no matter if they did it or not.

She may be telling how she feels and thinks but I dont think she has one thing to back up her accusations that he has harmed his child. Thats the problem imo.

I had a RO against my ex but he was the best father ever to his children. He never hit me in front of them either and today he isnt even that man he use to be. He has changed completely and has profusely asked for our forgiveness long ago. No matter what happened between he and I ...........I would never accuse him of something this horrific unless I knew LE had the evidence that said he was guilty. I sure wouldnt play leap frog and say it beforehand.

IMO

OMG I never said he abused Dylan someone here posted that they asked on NG if the orders of protection were because he had abused dylan i just came back and said
I dont think he ever harmed his son it was probably his wife....
.
There are orderes of protection out there so obviously there were problems.

 

[Kamille]

But what if she's wrong??? What if MR is innocent and didn't do anything to his son??? The court of public opinion has been horrible to him based on what she said.

If there are orders of protection between the husband and wife, kudos to her for extracting herself from what may have been a toxic marriage. How many times on here do we wish that other women had been as fortunate? But unfortunately, when it comes to the children, they are bound by the court regarding visitation.

I wonder when the last time was that the 21yr old son visited with his father?

I think in a situation like this, it is prudent to listen to the woman who knows this man probably better than anyone else. I'm sure she has good reason to be concerned.

He is not the first, nor will he be the last person to be questioned by the "court of public opinion". It's an unfortunate situation for him for sure. Especially if his past behaviour on the domestic front and/or elsewhere is less than stellar.



MOO

 

[jennapuppy]

I'm curious about the fact that she said he wouldn't initially return her phone calls or texts. If my ex accused me of murdering my child when I hadn't, I might be tempted to do the same thing. We don't know what she said to him when he called to tell her that Dylan was missing, but it probably wasn't pretty. Maybe he just didn't want to argue with her anymore.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Well lets say he didnt do anything to him.
Those protective orders are still out there they dont go away.
Seems to me she had reason to say what what she did
she has never gone back to apologize either like she said it in the heat of the moment because she is angry.

I think she believes he harmed their son.
I dont think she is the only one.

All JMO

What? Protective orders have time lines. They dont go on forever.

If he didnt do anything to his child then what she has done is disgraceful and one of the most hurtful things that can be said ever to anyone. It would show that one needs to wait before they pre-judge.

Just ask Mark Lunsford how much it hurts for a parent and grandparents to be accused falsely for something they did not do or the Smart family. They know all too well how much it hurts because they lived it.

 

[Eileen730]

Im not sure she is being truthful. What happened between her and Mark has nothing to do with his love for Dylan and I highly doubt he has been abusive to his child or the Judge wouldnt have given him the right to see Dylan alone for a week at a time. Dylan was just there for a visit in September.

Frankly I think he is being railroaded by his ex who wants to blame someone...anyone no matter if they did it or not.

She may be telling how she feels and thinks but I dont think she has one thing to back up her accusations that he has harmed his child. Thats the problem imo.

I had a RO against my ex but he was the best father ever to his children. He never hit me in front of them either and today he isnt even that man he use to be. He has changed completely and has profusely asked for our forgiveness long ago. No matter what happened between he and I ...........I would never accuse him of something this horrific unless I knew LE had the evidence that said he was guilty. I sure wouldnt play leap frog and say it beforehand.

IMO

OMG I never said he abused Dylan someone here posted that they asked on NG if the orders of protection were because he had abused dylan i just came back and said
I dont think he ever harmed his son it was probably his wife....
.
There are orders of protection out there so obviously there were problems.

 

[SCHMAE]

I think he looks tired, like he hasn't slept for days, like he's in emotional agony over the disappearance of his child. My heart goes out to him and Dylan's family. This is a tough time for all of them.

Hey good points, to you and texas charm.
Scott Peterson was more in your face, MR TV over night.
That is not what's going on here. MR is talking when asked
and basically doesn't seem to be seeking attention .
Who was that other one, Drew Peterson? He could not
get enough face time !

 

[SCHMAE]

moo..moo

In addition to the issues with dad's statements the one single, solitary issue for me that is impossible to explain away is the very simple fact that according to dad Dylan spent the night there, refused to get up to go to his friends the following morning(the same friends that dad repeats were so very very important to Dylan to go spend time with) but rather slept in, and then somehow supposedly set out to get to his friends after 730 Monday morning...

Yet Dylan's phone has never once been powered on since Sunday night..you simply cannot explain that away. There is zero possibility that Dylan's phone would not have been CHARGED AND POWERED ON MONDAY MORNING WHATEVER TIME WHEN DYLAN GOT UP..

I DON'T CARE IF DYLAN WAS SICK, IN A BAD MOOD, SAD, OR ANY OTHER HUMAN EMOTION THERE IS..DYLAN REDWINE WOULD HAVE POWERED THAT PHONE ON REGARDLESS OF HOW HE FELT, WHAT , OR WHERE HE WANTED TO GO..HIS CELL PHONE WOULD HAVE BEEN POWERED ON, PERIOD!

Right on !

 

[Bravo]

Until LE clears Dad he is on my radar. Am i open to any other plausible theory? Absolutely. There are a lot of holes in this saga. Until LE clears some of them up it's got my hinky honked :moo:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

OMG I never said he abused Dylan someone here posted that they asked on NG if the orders of protection were because he had abused dylan i just came back and said
I dont think he ever harmed his son it was probably his wife....
.
There are orders of protection out there so obviously there were problems.

Oh sorry.

He didnt even have to physically harm her for her to get a protection order. He could have just threatened her or all she had to say is she feared him. How long has she been with this other dude.......is he a live in or a stepfather?

imo

 

[Kamille]

If she suspects Dad she clearly should express that to LE- but by voicing those accusations in the media she turns the public eye to her ex rather than on finding her son.
I think it does more damage than it does good.

I do agree with this point. As much as we like to get information here, I think it would have been much better for ER to have expressed her concerns to LE only. I can only think that perhaps she spoke out of frustration for the way the search started out. With LE considering the situation as a possible runaway. I don't believe ER ever believed that her son would just run away from his father's home, not without contacting her at least.

MOO

 

[Annie1004]

If I try to imagine being mom, sending my son to see dad, he goes missing the first day he's there, he won't return our calls or texts trying to figure out what happened and how, while sitting anxiously for almost a week (at that time), things being said about my son don't seem to ring true with what I know, and I'm scared and likely sleepless, and especially if I'm privy to other reasons for concerns, and LE hasn't told me not to state my concerns, I can see them spilling out. She may, from past and/or current info, have reason to honestly be concerned that he could in some way be involved. LE hasn't ruled anyone out yet. Honestly stated concerns are very different to me than going into past squabbles abt direct vs transfer flights, insisting (now) that they should meet, especially after not responding to her before. I haven't seen her rushing to make daily accusations that dad did it or anything like that.

It's intriguing to me that some don't question dad's statements, but do mom's. I'm curious about both. :dunno:

Moo

Huh? I have never seen so much speculation re the father on WS while the mother can do no wrong! MOO.

 

[Chili Fries]

If she suspects Dad she clearly should express that to LE- but by voicing those accusations in the media she turns the public eye to her ex rather than on finding her son.
I think it does more damage than it does good.

I don't know if there's truth in what Elaine has said or not, but I do know that in many of these cases the best way to find the missing person is to have the perp lead law enforcement to him or her. It's too easy to hide a body.

Often I don't think you can separate finding the perp from finding the missing person.

Again, I don't know if Elaine is speaking the truth and if Mark had anything to do with Dylan's disappearance, but if one of my loved ones went missing and I thought I knew who was responsible - I'd be pointing the finger and saying very loudly, "ask that person, he knows what happened".

 

[SmoothOperator]

Let me say something as a divorced mother who went through a hellacious, bitter divorce that latest years where there were domestic violence issues and orders of protection and all of these years later I still despise the man..

If our son were to go missing(who is only one year older than Dylan Redwine) if he were to go missing and I even believed there was a sliver of a chance that SOMEONE OTHER THAN MY EX HUSBAND WAS RESPONSIBLE..OR SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENED TO OUR SON THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY EX HUSBAND BEING THE ONE THAT HARMED HIM...I WOULD NOT BE WASTING MY BREATH ON AIRING OUT MY LONG HATRED FOR MY DOG EX HUSBAND!!..NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD THAT BE MY FOCUS!..I WOULD NOT BE WASTING A PRECIOUS MILLISECOND IF EVEN IT WAS THE SLIGHTEST OF POSSIBILITIES THAT SOMEONE ELSE HARMED OR TOOK HIM..

MOO THIS MOTHER IS NOT WORRIED ABOUT ALL THE PAST ISSUES AND HER PERSONAL DISLIKE FOR HER EX HUSBAND...

SHE IS ONLY WORRIED ABOUT HER CHILD AND THERE IS A REASON WHY HER FOCUS HAS BEEN NOWHERE EXCEPT ON THE FATHER.

JMO!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Until LE clears Dad he is on my radar. Am i open to any other plausible theory? Absolutely. There are a lot of holes in this saga. Until LE clears some of them up it's got my hinky honked :moo:

Im the opposite.

Until LE says he is a POI or suspect he is not on my radar.

Most LE do not ever clear anyone publicly by name anyway. They will just announce an arrest and who the suspect is. Thats the way they did it in the Van Dam, Greone and Lunsford cases.

IMO