CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #8

[Chili Fries]

no convictions...only accusations by an ex wife...

I believe it said he pleaded guilty to menacing in the late 1990s.

In Colorado:

Menacing involves the use of threat or by physical action knowingly placing a person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury, or attempting to do so.

Menacing is a Class 3 misdemeanor, but can be a Class 5 felony if a deadly weapon is used, a perceived deadly weapon is used, or when one claims being armed with a deadly weapon.

http://www.lawinfoboulder.com/areas_criminal_litigation/menacing.html

 

[vasportsmom]

He did plead it down by accepting lesser charges. And I think we can discuss it now because it was already on MSM. Correct?

I hope so!


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[Psychic Sleuth]

We should be able to talk about it. Do you have more info?

 

[jjenny]

Dad has been using the past tense a lot...and many people have determined that it really doesn't mean much. That is why I asked about why Mom's using present tense was any different.

Who are those "many people?" Even polygraph experts apparently look for statements like that (using past tense).

 

[SCHMAE]

"IS going to get him one for Christmas"

awww

I caught that . Bless her heart.
I hope her baby is home for Christmas !

 

[OneLove]

We absolutely have no evidence whatsoever though as to what happened to Dylan and its been two weeks.

IMO

I do believe that WE at WEBSLEUTHS have no evidence, yes. I believe that LE may well have much more than we know, and NO, they don't arrest the minute they have something, as has been suggested. We've certainly seen enough cases here that we know better than that by now.

Has it ever been confirmed that dogs tracked scent from the house to the lake, and then cadaver dogs had several independently verified hits on cadaver scent in the lake? It's been published and yet also left to dangle. It's hard to completely discount this, as though it did not even happen.

 

[hogwash]

Dylan texted his mother at 7:06 pm Sunday evening so if the mother left her home and drove 5 hours to pick up her son, he would have been gone before daybreak yet the father alleges he saw his son lying on the couch when he left to run errands in the morning. Besides, ER's other son came with her so she can prove where she was before she received a text from MR stating their son was missing.

If the last text Dylan sent was to his mom at 7:06 pm, when did he send the text to his friend stating he would see him on Monday instead of Sunday evening? TIA

Not if she spent half the night wondering if she should go get him and the other half driving JMO

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

It is my understanding that he texted his Mom at 7:06pm as he landed then after that he was texting his friends as Dad and he were driving around and at 8pm the phone shut off.

 

[Ransom]

Forgive I am catching up so MR has hired a attorney now.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/12/02/Colorado-youth-missing-two-weeks/UPI-85631354470782/

 

[Abby Normal Again]

Re: BBM. Does this apply to Dad as well? Does it make sense for him to be discussing their squabbles and differences in his interviews?

Yes, the police are investigating. Dad has continued to voice many frustrations with LE.



In contrast to mom's opinion of LE:

link

Yes, LE had narrowed this case down to two possibilities: runaway or foul play. They then stated they'd ruled out that Dylan ran away, and that this is now a criminal investigation. IMO, they have far more info than we do, and concrete reasons for both narrowing the investigation and choosing to publicize that they'd done so. (links in prev threads)

Moo

This is probably wrong to articulate, but the dynamics between mom and dad is probably why this case is getting so much attention. It makes for a good story, good media.

While I don't LIKE it, what is that they say? Any press is good press? I hate that that we, as a society, have become so sensationalized that we don't want to pay much attention unless it's full of drama. But if we're being honest, her accusation and his appearance as a low key guy is basically what is getting Dylan's face and story out there.

Or so it seems, I could be wrong. I think there is something about Dylan's face and shaggy hair that we all fall in love with as well. Seems like such a sweet kid.

 

[SCHMAE]

So she is back to using present tense this time? Good.

She said ' i was going to get him a smart phne for Chrsitmas' , then corrected herself and said "I am getting him one for chrsitmas'. I took it more as ' dont give up hope' . Maybe shes' really thinking he'll never be found but trying to keep a positive outlook, he will be home for Christmas !

 

[jjenny]

I do believe that WE at WEBSLEUTHS have no evidence, yes. I believe that LE may well have much more than we know, and NO, they don't arrest the minute they have something, as has been suggested. We've certainly seen enough cases here that we know better than that by now.

Has it ever been confirmed that dogs tracked scent from the house to the lake, and then cadaver dogs had several independently verified hits on cadaver scent in the lake? It's been published and yet also left to dangle. It's hard to completely discount this, as though it did not even happen.

No, it hasn't been confirmed that dogs tracked his scent from the house to the lake. I believe that be inaccurate reporting.

 

[DylansMom34]

Its impossible to say what occurred during their marriage and divorce. Obviously, it was pretty adversarial.

The only thing important is what happened to this boy. She put him on a plane, trusted that he would be safe. Obviously, he wasn't safe. Sorry but she is justified in being hurt, angry, blaming. The boy was Mark's responsibility. Plain and simple, he failed that responsibility. Whether he actually did anything to Dylan will be worked out by investigators, etc. and no matter who harmed that child, I hope that person is prosecuted fully!

You would think since Elaine and Mark have children together they both could try and work together and be united in finding Dylan. However, it doesn't seem to be happening. And, sorry again, but I don't know who is making efforts and who isn't. None of us know that. She's been out there pleading for her child pretty much since the beginning.

 

[SCHMAE]

It raises some questions about the timeline, doesn't it?

We don't know whether he texted her the minute his plane landed, though. Or whether it was en route to dad's house. Unless I need to re-read or re-watch, too much too fast.

I'm thinking that 8 pm text, the last he was heard of , was to a friend to say "im too tired, i'll come tomorrow instead of tonight' .

 

[Linda7NJ]

We absolutely have no evidence whatsoever though as to what happened to Dylan and its been two weeks.

IMO

We do have lots of red flags though, don't we!

 

[jjenny]

It is my understanding that he texted his Mom at 7:06pm as he landed then after that he was texting his friends as Dad and he were driving around and at 8pm the phone shut off.

My understand as well. He texted mom after he arrived. Then told dad that he wanted visit friends, dad told him it was too late. So he texted friends changing their meeting for tomorrow morning. At 8 pm no more activity on the phone.

 

[Seek&Find]

Forgive I am catching up so MR has hired a attorney now.

Yes, he already had a divorce attorney, but he disclosed in an article released yesterday that he now has a criminal defense attorney.

And he is trying to deal with the added weight of knowing that some people think he had something to do with his son's disappearance because he was the last one to see him. He has contacted a criminal-defense attorney to help him with that. And he said he is helping in the search in any way he can.

link

 

[katydid23]

Here is what was shown on NG:


2003 - Child Abuse, Menacing, Trespass, Assault, Disorderly Conduct


I don't think this is against TOS because it was just in MSM, right? I didn't sleuth him, just watched NG. :angel:

(with all these charges, he pled to the disorderly conduct charge only and the others were dismissed)

 

[Seajay]

Well then someone lied because there is a huge difference between failing a poly than one that was inconclusive.

And then did she say she is not sure he has taken one or did I read that wrong?

She is backtracking now..........shes all over the place.

imo

Yes, she actually said that she didn't even know if he took a poly test to start with. She had no knowledge of one. Then she says that she isn't sure if he failed it or not. Then she said she thought it was inconclusive. Then she said LE and other are asking him to take ANOTHER one. My head was spinning. First she had no knowledge, then she didn't know if failed it, then it was inconclusive, then he was asked to take another one. Which is it???? Dang.

 

[jjenny]

I'm thinking that 8 pm text, the last he was heard of , was to a friend to say "im too tired, i'll come tomorrow instead of tonight' .

Dylan wasn't too tired. According to dad's interview, dad was the one who told him it was too late.