CO- Dylan Redwine's case discussed on Dr. Phil ONLY!- 2/26/13 ***SPOILERS***

[SCHMAE]

Oh dear !

https://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Support-Mark-Redwine/472976319435251?fref=ts

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Oh dear !

https://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Support-Mark-Redwine/472976319435251?fref=ts

Can you backdate fb pages? It says founded on nov 19? wth

Oh My Gosh.

How about a HELP ME FIND MY SON PAGE!!!

 

[KateNY]

Nothing against the (ex?)G/F at all. She seems sincere in her beliefs, and it was good that MR had someone there to show support for him.

However

I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell her if she really thinks her experience/opinion after 6months with MR outweighs the combined decades of experience of his 2 former wives

JMHO

 

[SmoothOperator]

and I would like to point out a piece of information that <modsnip> Elaine for months regarding her statement on Nancy Grace..

Now, I believe its crystal clear as to why she didn't know whether to say failed, inconclusive or what regarding Marks LDT.. LOOKS LIKE MARK STUMBLED ALL OVER EXACTLY WHAT TO SAY ABOUT IT..LOOKS LIKE ELAINE WAS BEING HONEST <modsnip>.

GLAD TO SEE THAT SET STRAIGHT!

 

[asyousay]

Oh dear !

https://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Support-Mark-Redwine/472976319435251?fref=ts

Mark , is that you !

 

[greenthumb]

In truth, when Phil originally offers the poly, MR agrees to it. That is MR's doing . He could have at that point said I dont think so, my lawyer said not to, I already took one, etc. But he did not. He said OK I'll take one. Then the mess began. So I'm not going to fault Phil for badgering someone to do something AFTER they made a declaration that they WOULD do it. At that point, you heard Phil at the end of the show, thanking the poly dude for 'putting his life on hold' to fly over at the last moment to give this very important poly, not tonight, maybe tomorrow,,,,,, and then it not happening. Phil had to pay that guy for his time I'm sure . So I don't see it as Phil badgered. Did he do some other badgering during the show? Probably yes, but as far as I could tell, it was all trying to tie MR down to ......one ANSWER, one STATEMENT, one ANYTHING that he could be held accountable for, but there was no such answer or statement given. That was as the dh likes to say a " soup sandwich". Just try to hold it in your hands !

I understand what you are saying, I really do, and I respect your opinion.

I just think it is important to look at how Dr. Phil may have manipulated public sentiment.

I have seen him manipulate other situations before in similar ways... he brings people onto TV, they know they will be seen by millions of viewers... and they think they are there for one thing, but then Dr. Phil turns it into an interrogation... and so there they are, suddenly on the hot seat and feeling blind-sided, and trying to react without coming off as the monster that Dr. Phil is making them out to be. And Dr. Phil is a master manipulator, no doubt about it. I just think it is unfair.

And do you not think that is manipulation when Dr. Phil goes on about the poly dude putting his life on hold, yada, yada... that is all just inciting dislike for the father, and molding public opinion.

Please understand, it is not my intent to defend Dylan's father against any suspicions/criticisms/anger that anyone on this thread feels for him. I could not make an informed decision on that one way or the other. And my opinion of Dr. Phil's approach to this family, this father and this situation will not change even if it is proven that the father was responsible for Dylan's disappearance, or worse... though I pray that this boy is alive somewhere out there.

I just wanted to point out that it is always good to question motives and that extends not only to the persons involved in the case, but to the source of the information that we receive... and I think Dr. Phil's motives here are indefensible. And the fact that he capitalized on the emotions of a family in such distress is just beyond horrible, IMO.

But all just MOO.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I understand what you are saying, I really do, and I respect your opinion.

I just think it is important to look at how Dr. Phil may have manipulated public sentiment.

I have seen him manipulate other situations before in similar ways... he brings people onto TV, they know they will be seen by millions of viewers... and they think they are there for one thing, but then Dr. Phil turns it into an interrogation... and so there they are, suddenly on the hot seat and feeling blind-sided, and trying to react without coming off as the monster that Dr. Phil is making them out to be. And Dr. Phil is a master manipulator, no doubt about it. I just think it is unfair.

And do you not think that is manipulation when Dr. Phil goes on about the poly dude putting his life on hold, yada, yada... that is all just inciting dislike for the father, and moulding public opinion.

Please understand, it is not my intent to defend Dylan's father against any suspicions/criticisms/anger that anyone on this thread feels for him. I could not make an informed decision on that one way or the other. And my opinion of Dr. Phil's approach to this family, this father and this situation will not change even if it is proven that the father was responsible for Dylan's disappearance, or worse... though I pray that this boy is alive somewhere out there.

I just wanted to point out that it is always good to question motives and that extends not only to the persons involved in the case, but to the source of the information that we receive... and I think Dr. Phil's motives here are indefensible. And the fact that he capitalized on the emotions of a family in such distress is just beyond horrible, IMO.

But all just MOO.

Have you seen both days? Because yesterday was all about talking to them both and trying to get people looking for dylan.
Today seemed more focused on MR because he brings it on himself. His son is missing. Has been for months and he looks like he may have misplaced his car. He know something. It is obvious. I gotta tell you I am not a big DP fan, But he did everything he could today to help this man clear himself. And MR backed out. He is guilty of something. What I am not sure. But he was afraid of that poly.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

I don't know about that. He took the initial test from LE.

Which we don't know if it was failed or inconclusive because we don't know if Mark is telling the truth about those results. It isn't able to be used in a criminal case, and to be honest would tell us why the police have not pointed fingers is because they can not clear MR, nor do they have any indications that he has done anything. Master manipulator. All this being MOO

 

[asyousay]

Dr Phil may be a manipulator but if Mark was up front and honest then you can not manipulate that IMO ..

Mark is the only one to blame for such a poor showing as he had the chance to prove the world wrong and show us that it was about Dylan and wanting to find him , yet he decides to bury himself in a bottle and then not take the polygraph . That is not on Dr Phil's head , unless he held Mark's mouth open and poured it down his throat ?

 

[SCHMAE]

Which we don't know if it was failed or inconclusive because we don't know if Mark is telling the truth about those results. It isn't able to be used in a criminal case, and to be honest would tell us why the police have not pointed fingers is because they can not clear MR, nor do they have any indications that he has done anything. Master manipulator. All this being MOO

I was thinking about this very thing. Now we see exactly what " COOPERATING FULLY" with LE looks like , right? This is MR cooperating ! Now you see it, now you don't. What just happened? LE cant clear him or rule him out because they can't get him to answer ONE freaking question..........totally MY OPINION !

 

[katydid23]

I wasn't in the middle of the fence but I went from 95% to 100%. No doubt in my mind whatsoever. NONE! And I don't say that lightly.

I was actually LEANING up against that fence when I heard that he was going on the show and was going to take the poly. It made me wonder if he was just a misunderstood guy that was being misjudged.

But after watching his pathetic behavior, I am firmly off the fence. I am back to looking at him sideways and with some disgust.

 

[katydid23]

I understand what you are saying, I really do, and I respect your opinion.

I just think it is important to look at how Dr. Phil may have manipulated public sentiment.

I have seen him manipulate other situations before in similar ways... he brings people onto TV, they know they will be seen by millions of viewers... and they think they are there for one thing, but then Dr. Phil turns it into an interrogation... and so there they are, suddenly on the hot seat and feeling blind-sided, and trying to react without coming off as the monster that Dr. Phil is making them out to be. And Dr. Phil is a master manipulator, no doubt about it. I just think it is unfair.

And do you not think that is manipulation when Dr. Phil goes on about the poly dude putting his life on hold, yada, yada... that is all just inciting dislike for the father, and molding public opinion.

Please understand, it is not my intent to defend Dylan's father against any suspicions/criticisms/anger that anyone on this thread feels for him. I could not make an informed decision on that one way or the other. And my opinion of Dr. Phil's approach to this family, this father and this situation will not change even if it is proven that the father was responsible for Dylan's disappearance, or worse... though I pray that this boy is alive somewhere out there.

I just wanted to point out that it is always good to question motives and that extends not only to the persons involved in the case, but to the source of the information that we receive... and I think Dr. Phil's motives here are indefensible. And the fact that he capitalized on the emotions of a family in such distress is just beyond horrible, IMO.

But all just MOO.

So it's Dr Phil's fault that Mark went out and got drunk on whiskey, 'preventing' him from taking the poly that could clear his name?

It makes me believe what we have heard all along---that LE has wanted him to come and retake his poly with them but he has stalled.

And it leads me to believe that my initial instincts were correct when I thought he seemed glazed over and drunk looking in prior interviews.

And I think he may have been drunk and angry, the last time he interacted with his missing son.

 

[missrugby]

Lets go with this. The reason this guy looks guilty or like he has done something is because of his behavior. His attitude. His actions or non actions. No one is helping him look any way. He is the father of a missing child and I don't see it. I don't see the worry, The fear the pain, I see him worried about him and him and more him.

I think of the fathers we have seen, Elizabeth Smarts father, Kyron Horman's father, Many many fathers that may not be perfect people but when their children are missing they are right there.

Last week, My 5 yr old went missing for 30 mins. It was the most terrifying 30 mins of my life. It was dark and cold and we thought he had run outside of a family party and could not find him. My husband was running around that neighborhood, AS were all the men in the party. I was out front on the phone with police and crying and getting help from a neighbor to stay steady and get information to them,

Just that taste of it, Makes you realize what it feels like and what you would do if your child was missing. I can not explain the fear, panic and helplessness.

I can not imagine what it feels like 3 months later. But if someone had offered me a show to find my son, I would have use that time to beg for info about my son.

This man made it about him. He won't give answers, He won't take the LDT and clear himself. He won't help DP. He is in his only little, THIS IS ABOUT ME world.

A few weeks ago I was in the grocery store with my 4 year old and I watch him like a hawk. I turned to my side and he wasnt there and it was immediate panic. It ended up that he was standing right behind me but I cried on and off all night thinking about the what ifs.

 

[Money Girl]

Dr. Phil did not make Mark look bad. Mark made Mark look bad.

We have no idea what editing was done to the show. Anything for ratings.

 

[katydid23]

I don't know about that. He took the initial test from LE.

Why didnt he take this one? He complained about the original one and said that the examiner was inexperienced or something.

And here he had the chance to take the test with one of the most credible poly examiners in the world.

If he was innocent, I would think he would jump at the chance. Why did he get drunk and come with a hangover?

 

[SmoothOperator]

Mark , is that you !

Oh God yes, it is!..jmo..please read all of his posts and there will be no doubt..he refers to how he and Elaine hooked up, got together, etc..you bet its him..

 

[Chella]

Oh dear !

https://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Support-Mark-Redwine/472976319435251?fref=ts

Ha! This is actually funny. I believe this we're allowed to discuss this because it was in the news (sorry, no link right now), but someone was requested by family to remove her FB page ... twice. It looks to me like this page could be her third try. In any event, the page joined FB on November 19. And now has two likes. Very funny. Not the statement the page owner intends to make, I'm sure.

 

[Eileen730]

MR should not have taken the polygraph when it was clear he was extremely upset. Glad that he didn't.

Of course, I didn't think he should go on the show at all. Just had a feeling that ER would not ask him questions, but only make accusations against him.

CR was a real work of art on that show.

MR had what2 chances to take that poly.
And Cory shouldnt have to be going thru all this!
At least someone is being a MAN!

 

[missrugby]

Oh dear !

https://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Support-Mark-Redwine/472976319435251?fref=ts

Wow 2 likes....must be MR and the ex

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I just finished watching it and I cried throughout the show. I was crying for Dylan.

We can only hope that the show will jog someone's memory and somebody saw something or that Dylan is found and there is some evidence that proves something.

Other than this I am speechless.