CO- Dylan Redwine's case discussed on Dr. Phil ONLY!- 2/26/13 ***SPOILERS***

[SCHMAE]

I would kindly like to offer a pillow to anyone who would like to jump off the fence now. Been down here a long time and am happy to greet some new faces. Plus, I won't have to crane my neck and shout up at y'all anymore. Pillows all around!:fencefall:

Adorable post ! Ty ,, I literally laughed out loud ! Craning your neck...I'm so sorry !

 

[Ghostwheel]

Oberservation, Dr. Phil is airing now. What CR said MR if that was my son, I would have busted out crying.. But my hubby would have probably drawn his belt for being disrespectful. I can see where this going.. Probably more blame games.. Will chime in later

BBM: Really? I would have wondered how I could have screwed up so royally that my own child would think that of me.

And the belt thing is just frightening to me. No disrespect, it just is.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

MR is upset that people are being "mean" to him. That much is clear. What's not at all clear is that he's in the least bit upset that his son is missing. As for asking him questions, we all saw how he answered azgrandma when asked about the inconsistency about going to T's home. He confusingly blurs the two versions together and speaks in "tenses" I haven't thought about since Latin class.

CR is brave, justifiably angry and desperate to know what happened to his brother. All MOO

Exactly! He is upset because people are upsetting him. They are being mean to him, He is in the hot seat, He is being accused.. He has no emotion whatsoever about dylan being gone. So he either knows he is dead or safe. No other option.

He is now just trying to protect his own skin.

 

[Stash777]

Pray tell me; if you have a child that likes to sleep in, why would you not have him sleep in his bedroom? I mean the living area (kitchen and living room from the 9news video) is joined and small.

And I thought Mark said when Dylan stayed with him, it was just him and Dylan. When was this, over Labor Day?

Sounds like another Mark story......:banghead:

The only possible explanation I can come up with is that there was not a tv in Dylan's room and he liked to fall asleep watching tv. That's all I've got.

As for the contradictions, refusal of the poly, and MR's seemingly lack of concern for Dylan, MR is hiding something key to finding Dylan, IMO.

 

[Confusion]

First thing in the morning while still drunk, it was ok for them to think it was half a BOTTLE ! Later on, with no risk of a looming polygraph coming and realizing how things stand, he changes it to the itty bitty pint size . For a big man like him, half a pint size bottle would not keep him from doing a polygraph. Sorry! I know my liquor and half a pint is like 3 shots of whiskey, possibly 4......... MOOOOOOOOOO

Not that it matters much, but a shot is normally 1 ounce, so a half pint is more like 8 shots. Not saying that I would have gotten 8 drinks from a half pint when I drank, but that's how it would be measured officially. MOO

 

[palaminodee]

I found it quite baffling MR did not mention ANYTHING that he was personally doing to help find his son.
His ex-wife and son were there and he knew they were going to be on the show, he knew they were not happy with him prior to coming on the show and he had NOTHING to say to them to help the current tense situation.

I would think a "normal" person would try and get past the relationship issues for the time being and just focus on working together to find Dylan.

I realize he probably has to go to work, but no mention of any effort to figure out what happened or where his son is in his "off time".

I would think a "normal" person in this situation would be doing everything possible to find his son and shouting it from the mountain tops of Colorado asking for help in finding him and taking advantage of the Dr Phil national TV audience.

I saw no sign of that on today's show.
All he did was talk about himself.
(forgive me if he did on yesterday's show; I could not watch it.)
I am speechless.

 

[cluciano63]

Oberservation, Dr. Phil is airing now. What CR said MR if that was my son, I would have busted out crying.. But my hubby would have probably drawn his belt for being disrespectful. I can see where this going.. Probably more blame games.. Will chime in later

CR is a twenty-one year old man, not a child his father can push around or beat with a belt. He has every right to tell another adult what he feels.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I would kindly like to offer a pillow to anyone who would like to jump off the fence now. Been down here a long time and am happy to greet some new faces. Plus, I won't have to crane my neck and shout up at y'all anymore. Pillows all around!

illowfight2:
(sorry all the pillows I could find.. We need a throwing down pillow one)

I need at least one..

I want so badly to always believe there is another option than a parent involved in the crime involving their child.

I want to give them the benefit of the doubt. But his reaction, lack of help, accusatory tone, attitude about his feelings, It is all adding up to me.

 

[nikb]

I'm having those same thoughts. There is still 2 1/2 hours before it shows here, so I'm going off your summary (thank you so much for doing that!).

There is one thing the ex-gf said that stood out to me, though - about Dylan not wanting to get up. Did she elaborate on that at all (i.e. didn't want to get up early in the mornings, didn't want to get up later, slept all day on the couch)? Was it because he didn't want to be there, was he bored, did he not want to do what was planned for the day? Those last few questions are just my musings, not really looking for an answer - just kinda stuck out to me after seeing that both ER and CR stated that Dylan didn't really like going to MR's. All MOO.

You're welcome! Look forward to hearing your thoughts after it airs there.

About not wanting to get up - I think it was "teenager sleep in" type not wanting to get up, and not liking getting up early in the morning. About the ex-gf, I found it odd that almost everything she said seemed like she'd picked up the key points of MR's main stories and made sure to corroborate them, but didn't say a lot beyond that. Could be editing or it could be what she was asked to do, I just found it odd. Here's specifically what she said:

K (ex-gf):
"I traveled to Mark's home, spent a week with him and Dylan. And um everything that he said is exactly what happened. Mark, uh, Dylan [I think she just accidentally switched names] slept on the couch, um, he would never get up, you know, he would walk around and he'd get up in the morning - Mark would - and smoke a cigaratte, and have a cup of coffee and he'd be like 'Dylan, dilly boy let's go, get up, get up.' We'd do this for like an hour, hour and a half, two hours, he just wouldn't get up.

And the same thing is like his work, he would have to go into town to do his payroll or drop off papers, because he travels, so that's why he's not home to be with his kids. I mean he travels, he works out of town, when he comes home he would get Dylan. But I don't believe for a minute that he killed his kid or... <interrupted by Dr. Phil>"

 

[TheDuchess]

I would kindly like to offer a pillow to anyone who would like to jump off the fence now. Been down here a long time and am happy to greet some new faces. Plus, I won't have to crane my neck and shout up at y'all anymore. Pillows all around!:fencefall:

Well...you're a little late!!! I'm currently fishing grass out of my hair and splinters out of my rear! :banghead:

Bottom line...I am so sorry for Dylan and all of his family and loved ones. I pray they find you soon young man. :candle:

 

[Dee10]

This is a clip where MR & DP are talking one-on-one & DP is offering help. I found MR's last line very interesting & telling on what probably happened to Dylan.

http://www.drphil.com/uncut/page/uncensored/

 

[Helenstreet]

When we had the author of Love Fraud on the radio station, she told us a small percentage of sociopaths commit murder. So, if you guys feel MR has sociopathic traits, it still doesn't mean he is reponsible for Dylan's disappearance. I have no idea if he is a sociopath or not because I haven't been here half as often as you guys have been. Here's a list to help those who like to do the armchair psych evaluations.

http://www.lovefraud.com/02_howToSpotAcon/spot_con_artist.html

BBM. Kimster, I agree with this. That is basically what I was trying to convey in my last post. I would not even attempt to diagnose whether or not MR is a sociopath based on a few interviews and a talk show appearance. However, based on what I have observed of him, he does exhibit some classic traits. On another note, there is controversy in the psychological field over the use of the terms sociopath and psychopath; depending on what theories a particular psychologist embraces, some use the term interchangeably. I had a professor some years back who believed that they were one and the same, and that a person is born as such, (biology/genetics). Another professor believed that there is a distinct difference, (as do I).

 

[TheDuchess]

Oberservation, Dr. Phil is airing now. What CR said MR if that was my son, I would have busted out crying.. But my hubby would have probably drawn his belt for being disrespectful. I can see where this going.. Probably more blame games.. Will chime in later

Actually, I would have quite enjoyed watching Mark drawing his belt on Cory. He would have found out quickly the difference between a 13 year old boy and a 21 year old man.

 

[Chella]

Whew! I've got to take my life back tomorrow. This is heartbreaking stuff (OT but the cadaver dogs hits).

An article that I read many years ago still stands out in my mind because I'd experienced some of what was described. The term "crazy-making" conversations was used. Talking to MR is crazy-making! No straight answers. And turning it around to make the other person wrong ... MR is a master! As when he asked ER what kind of a mother she is, to think that he might have harmed Dylan.

DP didn't mince words when he told MR that even if he isn't responsible for Dylan's disappearance, there's something wrong with him, as evidenced in his reactions. Agree 100%.

Every word, MOO. Chiming in with my two cents.

 

[asyousay]

Also did Mark not say somewhere that when Dylan visits its just him and Dylan , its about them two . So what's this about a woman friend staying there for a week when Dylan was there ?

Another contradictions IMO

 

[SCHMAE]

Not that it matters much, but a shot is normally 1 ounce, so a half pint is more like 8 shots. Not saying that I would have gotten 8 drinks from a half pint when I drank, but that's how it would be measured officially. MOO

Shot glasses hold 1.5 , so a little more !

 

[rebeccaeee]

This is a clip where MR & DP are talking one-on-one & DP is offering help. I found MR's last line very interesting & telling on what probably happened to Dylan.

http://www.drphil.com/uncut/page/uncensored/

"I'm not a violent person." ???:what:

 

[deoneta]

First thing in the morning while still drunk, it was ok for them to think it was half a BOTTLE ! Later on, with no risk of a looming polygraph coming and realizing how things stand, he changes it to the itty bitty pint size . For a big man like him, half a pint size bottle would not keep him from doing a polygraph. Sorry! I know my liquor and half a pint is like 3 shots of whiskey, possibly 4......... MOOOOOOOOOO

I don't think it matters if he drank a half a gallon or half of an airline one shot bottle. It was just more of the manipulating, avoiding, "blame anyone or anything except me" behavior he exhibited throughout both shows. ALL MOO

 

[Confusion]

Shot glasses hold 1.5 , so a little more !

I had to go look it up after reading this, I quit drinking over 35 years ago, and haven't worked in a bar for over 20. A small shot is 1 oz., but a standard one is 1.5 oz. I guess my memory isn't as good as I thought, or I worked for a cheap bar! MOO

 

[michmi]

Oh, wahhhhhh==="doesn't feel well enough". <modsnip> This guy is too afraid to take a real polygraph because he knows he can't beat it.