CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #54

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15 minute recess/return at 11:20 am MT
 
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Bring the Jury!
 
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I'm going to respectfully suggest that she is feeling no shame. She's probably more concerned that she can't apply filters to her appearance in court like she could on Social Media. Or maybe nobody will pony up for some new Lilly dresses for her.
Sadly, I think you are right. I don't think T feels shame or guilt or even remorse. I don't think she applies the laws of fairness and decency the way most of the rest of us do.

I think T remains outraged that she's being charged for what she probably thinks anyone in her shoes would have done. Perennial victim.

A little bit like Watts and his latest delusion -- that he's a great guy, a great dad, and all-around good person except for that one little time. As if planning and following through on the conscious, deliberate and manual suffocation of your pregnant wife and your two daughters is, in any world, a small thing. I daresay, it's pretty much the only thing, no longer matters how many times your children thought you were their hero if you kill them just the one time.

Same, T. Probably plenty of times she wasn't killing Gannon. In fact, she may have been exceedingly nice to him sometimes (genuinely or otherwise) (likely only adding to a child's confusion) but it doesn't matter how many flowers boxes Al and Gannon made for T if she kills a child even the one time. She's not a stepmother who slipped up, for pup's sake. She's a murderer. A child murderer.

For all time.

If T doesn't sit at the defense table throughout the duration of the trial, I think we can be pretty sure it's nothing but a power play on her part. In a game only she is playing. It might be the only power she has left.

No matter.

The power is all Gannon's now.

Sweet, innocent boy.

Whole world gonna be mad at YOU, T.

We can't fix T. The jury can't fix T. The judge can't fix T. But the system can make sure she doesn't have access to another child. Ever.

The saddest part of trials for me is that, truly, there is no justice for victims. Justice for Gannon would be another chance at life, his body restored, and a summer of action and play and laughter and love and silly jokes and bugging his sisters, summer after summer after summer until he's an old man looking back upon a long and happy life. We don't get that. His parents and sisters don't get that.

But what we do get, what we can hope for, what we've stood vigil to fight for is that T gets  her justice. Judged by a jury of her peers, the evidence laid out, and something like LWOP plus 156 years. Justice.

JMO
 
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Okay, it's quarter past three, so I should probably do the sleep thing and play catch-up tomorrow. Wow, that was so much faster than I thought it was going to be!

Take care of yourselves folks. I know from hereon in, there's going to be a lot of hard stuff to hear. Listen to yourselves, take breaks, and let your big feelings flow like ripples over the water of you. And if that doesn't work, there's always chocolate. :)

Night!
 
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@MassGuy they got their jury how ya feeling about this ? I'm waiting to see how Leticia acts today jmoo
 
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I just heard on L&C that LS does not want to attend the entire trial, she will be housed in a holding cell in the building. Sounds like she isn't going to be in the courtroom after all if I heard right.

She should be made to sit in there even if they have to strap her in a chair. She shouldn't have the option to decide. Grrr
So jurors are asked to give up a part of their lives to participate in the trial and LS "doesn't want to attend the entire trial"?!? She can shorten the trial by just changing one little thing ...
 
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Okay, it's quarter past three, so I should probably do the sleep thing and play catch-up tomorrow. Wow, that was so much faster than I thought it was going to be!

Take care of yourselves folks. I know from hereon in, there's going to be a lot of hard stuff to hear. Listen to yourselves, take breaks, and let your big feelings flow like ripples over the water of you. And if that doesn't work, there's always chocolate. :)

Night!
Night thanks for all your updates and time ,see ya in a couple hrs if your able to sleep
 
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As is normal in Colorado courts, media coverage of the events will be limited. Judge Gregory Werner is allowed one member of the print media and one from electronic media in the courtroom for jury selection. As of right now, no cameras will be allowed in the courtroom to cover the actual trial process. However, anyone can watch using the virtual courtroom option from the El Paso County court system.
I'm confused. I just logged into this web and can only hear judge. no video to watch.
 
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Okay, it's quarter past three, so I should probably do the sleep thing and play catch-up tomorrow. Wow, that was so much faster than I thought it was going to be!

Take care of yourselves folks. I know from hereon in, there's going to be a lot of hard stuff to hear. Listen to yourselves, take breaks, and let your big feelings flow like ripples over the water of you. And if that doesn't work, there's always chocolate. :)

Night!
while letting justice roll down like waters
night night
 
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Thank goodness this trial is actually, finally happening. Hoping for civility in the courtroom and an outstanding prosecution....and a healthy jury.
 
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WEbex is still live and the judge just said the video portion will begin immediately after lunch.
 
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I'm confused. I just logged into this web and can only hear judge. no video to watch.
The video will start at 1:30 mtn it's just voice right now
 
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Since the trial is being made available only by WebEx (no media cameras), the courtroom cameras and audio are fixed, and during prior hearings -- seldom have we clearly seen LS on the WebEx feed.

Whether intentional or not, LS is typically seated where we only see a profile view of her shoulder and heard. And she's forever using her hair to cover her face.

That said, since defendants are typically not restrained in front of jurors, it's possible her seating may change but I guess we will know after 1:30 pm today. JMO

#HereforGannon :)
 
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I'm going to respectfully suggest that she is feeling no shame. She's probably more concerned that she can't apply filters to her appearance in court like she could on Social Media. Or maybe nobody will pony up for some new Lilly dresses for her.

I don't think her shame is over what she's done, exactly. Instead, it's the feeling she has because she cannot appear as her invented personality; she is seen in court as a murderess and I do believe she feels something, which is why she did the Cousin It interview, it's why she has made up outrageous stories (Eguardo) and why she at one time thought she should be her own attorney. She fears this process. Perhaps fear is a better word than shame.

At any rate, she has many self-interested negative feelings right now, I'd say. Even if it's just shame or embarrassment over her appearance, it's something. And I'm glad she feels that way.

Can't wait to see if her eyebrows are still the way she likes 'em. If she ends up making use of the courthouse cell rather than appearing in the courtroom, I'm going to see that as a result of her internal state of embarrassment or shame (whatever it's called). We can certainly agree to disagree about what shame is. I see it as intense embarrassment.

IMO of course.
 
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Since the trial is being made available only by WebEx (no media cameras), the courtroom cameras and audio are fixed, and during prior hearings -- seldom have we clearly seen LS on the WebEx feed.

Whether intentional or not, LS is typically seated where we only see a profile view of her shoulder and heard. And she's forever using her hair to cover her face.

That said, since defendants are typically not restrained in front of jurors, it's possible her seating may change but I guess we will know after 1:30 pm today. JMO

#HereforGannon :)
In a way, I do want to see her facial expressions especially during opening statements.
But on the other hand, I kind of don't want to ever see her nasty face again, knowing it's the last nasty face Gannon ever saw.

My heart is with Landon and Al today. I can't even imagine being in their shoes right now. Everything in me as a mom, would be screaming to dispatch Mama Bear justice myself.
 
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I just tried to connect headphones because my kids are too loud, and there were 3 options, phone, speaker and Bluetooth. I'm on android though, I wonder if you have the same and it's not set to phone?
Mine did show the option for headphones (I'm using earbuds, myself) so I chose that but still nothing.
 
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Sadly, I think you are right. I don't think T feels shame or guilt or even remorse. I don't think she applies the laws of fairness and decency the way most of the rest of us do.

I think T remains outraged that she's being charged for what she probably thinks anyone in her shoes would have done. Perennial victim.

A little bit like Watts and his latest delusion -- that he's a great guy, a great dad, and all-around good person except for that one little time. As if planning and following through on the conscious, deliberate and manual suffocation of your pregnant wife and your two daughters is, in any world, a small thing. I daresay, it's pretty much the only thing, no longer matters how many times your children thought you were their hero if you kill them just the one time.

Same, T. Probably plenty of times she wasn't killing Gannon. In fact, she may have been exceedingly nice to him sometimes (genuinely or otherwise) (likely only adding to a child's confusion) but it doesn't matter how many flowers boxes Al and Gannon made for T if she kills a child even the one time. She's not a stepmother who slipped up, for pup's sake. She's a murderer. A child murderer.

For all time.

If T doesn't sit at the defense table throughout the duration of the trial, I think we can be pretty sure it's nothing but a power play on her part. In a game only she is playing. It might be the only power she has left.

No matter.

The power is all Gannon's now.

Sweet, innocent boy.

Whole world gonna be mad at YOU, T.

We can't fix T. The jury can't fix T. The judge can't fix T. But the system can make sure she doesn't have access to another child. Ever.

The saddest part of trials for me is that, truly, there is no justice for victims. Justice for Gannon would be another chance at life, his body restored, and a summer of action and play and laughter and love and silly jokes and bugging his sisters, summer after summer after summer until he's an old man looking back upon a long and happy life. We don't get that. His parents and sisters don't get that.

But what we do get, what we can hope for, what we've stood vigil to fight for is that T gets  her justice. Judged by a jury of her peers, the evidence laid out, and something like LWOP plus 156 years. Justice.

JMO
I know, I too have been thinking long about the justice aspect.
There is justice for society: a person who cannot live within the structures of society is removed from it -- banished. Deemed unfit to live among us. Never to harm us again.
For Gannon - he is long past the pain and the need for any retribution
But for the family, ugh, there is only knowing that it won't happen to another, which I hope they can take comfort from.
JMO.
 
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