CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #63

[iamshadow21]

I’m watching on YT Law & Crime, they broke for what I thought was morning break whilst I was cooking dinner, so I left the feed running and waited for them to resume.

I’ve been watching for the past 45 minutes and following along with comments here, which didn’t seem to align with the feed. I’ve just realised that the L&C YT feed must have had a glitch when they took a break, and instead of watching what I thought was live, I’ve been watching the witness testimony from first thing this morning! Ugh!

Have I missed anything major, other than BPD and NPD being diagnosed?

Unspecified Personality Disorder with Borderline and Narcissistic Features.

I'm generalising, here, but a lot of 'unspecified' diagnoses happen because a) people don't quite have enough crtieria met for a clear diagnosis, and b) the assessment is happening quickly, in a setting where the full gamut of observations and testing and patient history can't be done, so they use it to ensure the patient is getting some appropriate treatment until such a time as they can do the full work for a formal diagnosis. I think both are in play, here.

There is also an Unspecified Dissociative Disorder in the DSM for the same reasons.

It's a way of saying 'we know there's something going on and we think it's in this area, but further data and observation and testing is required'.

I am not a psych, so if someone who has actual training and experience in this field wants to correct me, please do.

MOO

 

[Murphy1950]

Hey Tecia, wrong button.

 

[Yellow Rose]

Hey Tecia, wrong button.

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I read he wasn't doing too well. (Jack)

 

[MsMarple]

It doesn't matter whether a person is insane or not, they don't murder people. She's not insane, just an evil witch. Hope the jury sees that and I think they will. She needs to be in a cement cage with bars.

JMO

Yeah, looking at just a few boxes to tick off, defendant:

Lied about their movements at the time of the murder.
Lied about their movement and actions after the murder.
Tried to blame others for the crime.
Insisted they were innocent in the face of overwhelming evidence.

How does that make Letecia any different from Wes Hadsell or Lonna Barton or Megan Boswell, Leilani Simon or any of the other child murderers? I see no difference.

 

[kittythehare]

Yeah, looking at just a few boxes to tick off, defendant:

Lied about their movements at the time of the murder.
Lied about their movement and actions after the murder.
Tried to blame others for the crime.
Insisted they were innocent in the face of overwhelming evidence.

How does that make Letecia any different from Wes Hadsell or Lonna Barton or Megan Boswell, Leilani Simon or any of the other child murderers? I see no difference.

I'm seeing more in the line of Hannibal Lecter..
Savagery.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1651286061929357312

 

[arielilane]

Back in Colorado and back covering Letecia Stauch’s jury trial. First witness of the day is Dr. Jackie Grimmett, a forensic psychologist.

Grimmett is testifying that she conducted one of the two competency evaluations on Stauch, not one of the sanity evaluations. A competency evaluation is a determination on if someone on trial is competent to proceed to trial or not.

Grimmett stated that she did not believe Stauch suffered from a severe mental illness.

Grimmett added that not only did she believe Stauch did not suffer from dissociative identity disorder, but that she has never actually met someone who had suffered from dissociative identity disorder so far in her career.

Grimmett’s testimony took up the entire first half of trial today, with the defense spending ~2 hours during cross-examination reviewing possible traits and symptoms in certain mental health diagnosis’s. Second witness of the day will be called after lunch.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1651286061929357312

https://twitter.com/ZachNDupont

 

[arielilane]

Dr. Mohr said she remembered the defendant, #LeteciaStauch being calm and polite throughout their conversations.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1651289287231520768

Doctor testifies about santity in Letecia Stauch trial

A doctor who interviewed Letecia Stauch said that the defendant denied having any disorders or any previous treatment.

www.courttv.com

 

[shotgun09]

My thoughts have been on the jurors questions. They all have been on point, direct, and IMO leaning towards not believing the BS that is the LS defense. Some very thoughtful and thought provoking questions have been asked. This jury is dying to talk about it I am sure, and thankfully Colorado gives them an out..by letting them question witnesses.

 

[Kiranerys]

I was especially impressed when Dr Grimmett said that if someone had DID, it was still possible that the host personality could be the one that committed the crime and then they would remember everything!

 

[arielilane]

Court will resume in under 4 minutes.

 

[Kiranerys]

My thoughts have been on the jurors questions. They all have been on point, direct, and IMO leaning towards not believing the BS that is the LS defense. Some very thoughtful and thought provoking questions have been asked. This jury is dying to talk about it I am sure, and thankfully Colorado gives them an out..by letting them question witnesses.

I don't know why, but I feel like a lot of the really good, indepth questions may be coming from the truck driver. Obviously I'm totally guessing!

 

[Seattle1]

Anyone who practices medicine in a jail or prison has to become familiar with a broad array of slang terms that are unique to the correctional setting. One such word is "kite." In a jail or a prison, the term "kite" refers to a written request for something.

Kites can be made for anything, but those of us in the medical department deal with medical kites. A typical usage could be this:

Inmate: "I need to see the doctor. I'm sick."

Officer: "Well, fill out a kite then."

"Kite" can be a noun, as in: "Fill out this kite."

"Kite" can also be a verb, as in: "I kited medical but haven't seen the doctor yet."

In my experience, usage of the slang term "kite" is almost universal in correctional facilities. It would be hard to exaggerate how common this term is. The word "kite" is recognized all over the country from the Deep South to New England and the West Coast. It is used in jails and prisons, state and federal facilities, and both adult and juvenile facilities. And since medical requests in jails and prisons are made frequently, the word "kite" is an everyday word.

Opinion | One Word Docs Need to Know in Prison

Lol -- I incorrectly thought a "kite" to be a gang hand sign/signal until the Dan Markel murder (Florida) where the 3 co-defendants being held in different jails had countless "kites!" Imagine my disappointment to read how many of these "kites" were over broken sandals!

 

[iamshadow21]

Stream is up.

Jury returning.

 

[10ofRods]

The psychologist who testified today did not say that Letecia has both Narcissistic PD and Borderline PD. What she said was Indeterminate Personality Disorder - in which Letecia partially met diagnostic criteria for NPD (but not enough to fit the full diagnosis) AND of Borderline PD (an attachment disorder), but not enough in Column N or Column B to quality for those independent diagnoses.

No surprise there, really.

IMO.

 

[arielilane]

Witness: Dr. Loandra Torres, psychologist

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1651308868025331712

https://twitter.com/ZachNDupont

 

[10ofRods]

Compulsive lying is a symptom of Anti-Social Personality Disorder; it's not a symptom of mental illness.

Exactly. I think we amateurs can throw ASPD into the PD Stew. The psychologist testifying couldn't have known how frequently T. lies, but she meets these other diagnostic criteria for ASPD as well:

• Ignoring right and wrong.
• Telling lies to take advantage of others.
• Not being sensitive to or respectful of others.
• Using charm or wit to manipulate others for personal gain or pleasure.
• Having a sense of superiority and being extremely opinionated.
• Having problems with the law, including criminal behavior.
• Being hostile, aggressive, violent or threatening to others.
• Feeling no guilt about harming others.
• Being irresponsible and failing to fulfill work or financial responsibilities.

Note that we have the money she stole from AS (and lied about it). We have her fired from several jobs for failing to fulfill basic responsibilities (such as showing up for work). The lies we know about are manipulative in nature. Apparently, AS found her charming at some point (and it turns out...it was manipulative, as when she makes him post something positive about her on Instagram in return for something he wants from her).

The psychologist would not have had an opportunity to observe most of this.

IMO.

 

[Seattle1]

The psychologist who testified today did not say that Letecia has both Narcissistic PD and Borderline PD. What she said was Indeterminate Personality Disorder - in which Letecia partially met diagnostic criteria for NPD (but not enough to fit the full diagnosis) AND of Borderline PD (an attachment disorder), but not enough in Column N or Column B to quality for those independent diagnoses.

No surprise there, really.

IMO.

Exactly! LS is just like a good amount of the population -- she's not special.

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1651310302796062720

https://twitter.com/AshleyPorteeyo