CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #68

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Judge was awesome imo. Thank you Judge.
 
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Waiting for the justice train…

Thanks everyone for posts and reposts - it’s so helpful to have all the info in one place! Hugs to each and every one of you! :)
 
  • #23
Judge was awesome imo. Thank you Judge.
Deliberations began @ 2:03 Mountain Time
Justice coming Soon for Gannon Stauch!
Won’t they have lunch first? I would think so and then give them ten minutes to sign the forms. Guilty as charged.
 
  • #24
We are all Gannon’s army, and we’re all in this together
 
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@Gardenista This little speech just knocked him down quite a bit in my eyes.

He's right, though. How awful would it have been if it had just been both sides bickering the whole way through? I can think of the bickery moments, and they all fit on the fingers of one hand. Whatever we think of the defense tactics, they didn't make the courtroom a circus or a school playground for weeks on end.


MOO
I wasn't talking about bickering. I was referring to their interactions with their client. By saying that, he reinforced and co-signed the behavior.
 
  • #26
I remember when Dan May departed and I had my doubts that anybody could posibly fill his shoes.
He chose a worthy successor.
Respect to Michael Allen, come what may, he did exquisite and painstaking work with a complete eye for detail.
No stone was unturned.
I got the OJ mention as a warning too.

Wake Up...
Be wide,
Work starts now.

Also, of course he knows the jury very well by now, he knows who if any of them is likely to throw a wobbly or go too far into ego.

I like that he very much honoured Gannon's mother in his rebuttal and nailed the motive.

He didn't miss anything.

Also he said it was perfectly fine to finish in 10 minutes.

If I ever wanted to study law, and had a choice of tutorship, he would be one.

He embodies the law, he is the law and he wears it well.

He respected Gannon, he respected the judge and he respected the jury and he was seem to be respectful, he had the humility to help with court room chores quietly and efficiently.

Pro cessing, processing, processing..
I'm grateful.
 
  • #27
Didn't get a chance to post Nicole's tweets on Thread #67.

Jury is coming back in. Closings will start and prosecution is first

Dave Young is presenting prosecution's closing argument.

Young: "I want to come back to Gannon. Gannon's been in a box back here for the whole trial. This is what the trial should be about.”

Young: "What #GannonStauch had to tell you through his autopsy in the trial is all you need to know.”

Young: "If his body wasn't found in Florida do you think we'd be talking about insanity in this trial?”

Young calls the bridge inspector finding the suitcase with Gannon's body "divine intervention" leading to the point where we are at today.

We're seeing a diagram of injuries on Gannon's body, not the photos from the autopsy. "Just by looking at these injuries, what does your common sense tell you...Gannon was defending himself, he was fighting off despite having hydrocodone that made him lethargic...she didn't stop”.

"...18 times, 18 times she took a knife, stabbed him. It's not psychotic it is strategic. The stab wounds are to his chest, as Gannon's fighting the stab wounds are to his back. But it's not just the stab wounds...4 separate strikes to his head, wasn't good enough for her.”

Talks about the bullets found in Gannon and pillow and now is showing map of the area of the bridge Gannon's body was found under in Pensacola, FL.

The body had been out there since Feb 4th and found on March 17th in Florida heat. They didn't smell anything until the suitcase was open. Harley said she didn't smell anything and Young is arguing this should give her credibility.

Young: "Did she intent to kill Gannon when she did what she did to him? I would suggest that's not disputable."

Young says the burden is on the state to prove sanity, and they "gladly accept it."

"If you loose your temper you don't get to claim insanity," Young says while reviewing the law and elements with the jury.

Mental disease or defect defined on screen: a severely abnormal mental condition that grossly and demonstrably impairs a person's perception or understanding or reality and it can't be not attributable to the voluntary ingestion of alcohol or any other psychoactive substance.

Young states that Letecia's daughter Harley and husband at the time Al would have noticed/known if she had a "grossly impaired perception of reality.”

Young: "If she was experiencing psychosis of December of 2019, the doctor would have had an obligation to admit her...it's not there.”

When psychologist talks with Letecia after Gannon's body was found, Young points out that Letecia says she wasn't in Florida, not that "Maria did it" or anything about having multiple personality disorder.

There was a two week observation period for first competency evaluation.
Young: "She actually goes to a nurse and says 'can you tell when someone's faking it.'"

Young bringing up that Dr. Torres testified in her evaluation of Letecia on August 4, 2020, she asked her if she has multiple personality disorder and she said no.

Young says Letecia exaggerates in evaluations to the point where even people who are hospitalized for psychiatric illnesses don't respond that way. "Do you think she might be faking it?”

Now talking about 2022, Young says Dr. Lewis told Letecia she recommends she change her plea to not guilty by reason of insanity.

Young says for insanity, the law says that you have to go back to the time of the crime, what was her mental state then.

Young asks the jury if it is just a coincidence that Letecia consulted with Dr. Lewis before and then Maria Sanchez comes into play during this last evaluation.

Young points out that during her evaluation with Dr. Lewis, Stauch says that she can't just summon "Maria," she has to come out with a stressor event. Young says that coincidently is what's written in the DSM-5.

Young talking about credibility of Defenses' witness Dr. Lewis: "Money is a strong motivator, having shows on HBO is a strong motivator, having your son in the room filming is a motivator.”

Young: "Dr. Lewis, she didn't know the legal definition of insanity in the state of Colorado ladies and gentleman, the whole reason she came in to testify.”

Watching videos now as Young says he wasn't to show Letecia's demeanor "before, during and after"
We are watching the video where Gannon is heard crying about dropping the candle and burning carpet. The word "Manipulation" is displayed on the screen and Gannon's words "I'm just worried about my burns.”

Young points out Letecia stops recording after Gannon says "I'm just worried about my burns." He asks the jury if stopping the recording then shows "judgement and reflection.”

On morning of alleged murder, Young says she takes picture of Gannon in bed and sends it to Al. Young: "Do you think she wants to prove he's still alive because of how much hydrocodone she gave him?”

Leaving her phone at home, before she and Gannon left the house Young: "Do you think that's an indication she knew what she was doing?"

Young asks what Letecia was doing taking a "sick kid" out to go shopping for dog clothes on day of alleged murder, calling it "narcissistic tendencies”

Young says right before the alleged murder, Letecia moved her car.

Young: "It may not sound like rational thinking, but it's certainly thinking, it's making decisions.”

Young says when Gannon's little sister gets home from school she doesn't let her in the house. "She needs to hide evidence.”

Young: "How can she do this, how can she talk to Gannon's father like nothing happened. Is that traits of an antisocial personality disorder that you can have no sympathy?”

Young says Letecia and Gannon's body leave for the airport. "She's made the decision to rent a car before even leaving the house. Is that evidence of psychosis or that she's thinking things through?”

Young brings up critical point in this case when Al realizes Letecia's car is not where she said it was. That's when he realizes his wife may have done something to his son and tells police that.

Young says texts from Letecia to her daughter Harley, telling her not to talk to police, etc. show she's manipulating.

Young: “She plants seeds, the suitcase is critical." Young says Letecia stated that a man named “Eduardo” took a suitcase when he took Gannon. Young says that's because she knows Gannon is in a suitcase at Palmer Lake, so if police find it, they will think it's this Eduardo.

Letecia's head is down in court right now during these closing arguments.

Picture of Gannon is up on the screen as a news interview with Letecia is playing. You can see emotion on Gannon's biological family's faces. Letecia's head is down.

Young says trackers show she went back to the place she originally dumped Gannon and gets his body. Her brother testified seeing the green suitcase when they had to move suitcases into rental van.

Young calls it "another divine intervention" is when the rental van powers up and gets her location near the bridge where Gannon's body is found. It was set to check location every certain amount of hours.

Young: "There are people who are truly legally insane ladies and gentleman, they don't act like that. If they don't have the capacity to know right for wrong, they won't hide the body. They act like nothing had happened...they also don't lie."




Now defense is up. Josh Tolini is presenting closing arguments for defense.

Tolini: "There is no answer of motive"...how we can go from a hike on Garden of the Gods, loving kind to rage." Tonlini calls the killing "psychotic rage" brought up by what's happened in her past.

"This is not premeditated murder, this is a psychotic break. That is the only thing that makes sense”.

Tolini says based upon Al's relationship with Letecia and how she treated Gannon, he felt comfortable enough to leave his kids with her when he left for military training in Oklahoma.

Tolini repeats that mental illness from her past got triggered and there was temporary period of psychosis. "There's no rational basis for the murder besides psychosis.'


Tolini: "Somehow that fire set off some type of trigger, maybe some type of trigger that had been disassociated long ago but we have her melt down right after the fire.”

Tolini talks about how in the video with the candle incident, Letecia says she's freaked out and she says they'll have to sell the sofa. "That makes no sense whatsoever."

Brings up at 4:36 am on the morning of alleged murder, how Letecia calls out from work by saying her step father dies. Tolini said the step father is who traumatized her. He points to her texts that she's manic because she's up the entire night not sleeping.

Tolini: "Something is going on in her mind, something is there loosing it and something horrible goes on in the basement where there is a brutal, brutal attack.”

Tolini says how brutal the attack on Gannon is shows that there's a mental break.

Tolini: "What is going on her head, we don't know"

"I would put before you the strongest evidence of dissociation going on here, look at the body language when the sheriff's come in the house looking for Gannon."

Tolini says she is laughing with sheriff's deputies after killing Gannon and that's pointing to dissociation, "She is in a manic situation and her mind is not working.”

Tolini says to go into police two days after reporting a kid missing, with a completely different story shows she wasn't calculated. "That is completely irrational to think that that kind of thing could possibly be believed.”

Tolini: "All of these phone calls with Al are the actions of someone who is delusional...she is freaking out and is delusional in that thought that anyone would believe all of the variations of what she is trying to sell them, none of that makes sense.”

Tolini says Dr. Lewis has decades of experience dealing with people with severe mental illness who committed heinous acts. He says she may have gotten forgetful on the stand, referring to her age. "Do not discount her decades of experience, do not discount her expertise.”

Tolini: "We're not disputing that it was her, but she was not in her right mind when she did it and you heard Dr. Lewis state that.”

Speaking about other doctors prosecution called up, Tolini says none of them deny mental illness.

Tolini: "Whether you call it borderline, DID, that is not the important thing...it's that there must have been psychotic actions going on.”

Tolini: "All of the antisocial personality disorder talk is a smoke screen." Tolini says when the screen is off what's left is disassociation.

Tolini says covering up of the murder does not preclude insanity. "They are not mutually exclusive.”

Tolini: "We're not saying to set her free, to let her go, we're not saying don't hold her responsible. We're saying to consider the mental illness she suffers and send her to CHMIP." He talks about that the conditions are shackles and not great.

Tolini tells jury if they believe this occurred in any state of psychosis, it is their legal duty to find Letecia insane.

They are going to take a 10 minute recess then rebuttal.

 
  • #28
Not cheating, but I need to amend my 39 minutes prediction in light of the fact that the jury are going to eat their lunch as well as deliberating. So I reckon about 90 minutes, which I think should be around 2.40 on Colorado time.
 
  • #29
People v. Stauch: Closing arguments have been made and jury deliberations are underway. Once the jury has reached a verdict, the Court will read the verdict 30 minutes later.
Notice of a verdict will be sent from this account.

EBM - FYI WSers - I suggest following this twitter account and have alerts turned on!
 
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https://twitter.com/AshleyPorteeyo

District Attorney Michael Allen is beginning prosecutor’s rebuttal. “The only fantasy in this courtroom that this defendant, this stepmother who killed Gannon had a psychotic break.”

Allen: “This defendant hated Gannon. You know that because she searched it. ‘I hate my stepson’… She wanted to hurt Al. She wanted to hurt Landon for that matter. She did to the core. They will never recover from what she did to them.”

Allen said she wanted to leave Al and their marriage before Gannon was killed. “In fact it does prove motive.” Allen talked about Al saying, “He never saw a single sign from her. What he didn’t know, he couldn’t see into her heart, or the hatred she had for Gannon.”

Allen said, “That freaking out that she’s doing is acting… She knew Gannon was done that day. That’s why she calls Gannon out of school later.”

Allen said based on her internet searches, Stauch was calculated, manipulating, and lying to everyone. “She deflects the blame and makes herself the victim.”

Allen said the candle incident makes no sense. “Because she wants to make it Gannon’s fault. Mr. Stauch told you the answer to that question. Harley told you the answer to that question. He didn’t play with fire. He didn’t light candles randomly.”

Allen asked, “Does it make more sense that this defendant burnt him?”

Allen talked about the hydrocodone. “That’s why he’s lethargic, he can’t get out of bed early, like he normally would. Walking slowly to the pickup truck in the morning, because he’s under the influence of hydrocodone.”

Allen talked about the picture from the hike at Garden of the Gods. These were, “Proof of life pictures pictures she is sending out to prove to the world she has nothing to do with what she was about to do… It was a way to cover her tracks and it starts early.”

Allen said everything Stauch has done in her life was manipulated and calculated.

Allen said, “The biggest investigation that El Paso county has ever seen, that involves the FBI. That’s who she is, she is a storyteller. Telling fantastic stories is not psychosis. It’s who she is,” as he points to Letecia Stauch.

Allen said Dr. Lewis didn’t even know what the definition of insanity is in Colorado.

During rebuttal from prosecutors, #LeteciaStauch is still seen with her head down most of the time, and looking forward at other times.

Allen said, “There’s plenty of evidence to find this defendant guilty… Why do all the things she did if she didn’t know right from wrong?”

“This woman doesn’t have a diseased mind. She has no psychosis… Family members gave the answers to you. Harley said it. Dakota Lowery said it. Al Stauch said it.”

Other words that show up on the screen with a mugshot of Letecia Stauch: Unreliable, hated, planned, premeditated, burned, poisoned, attacked, beat stabbed, shot, manipulated, ran, fled, dumped, murdered

After a quick glance at Al Stauch, he has a tissue in his hand, and is wiping away tears. You can hear sniffles and emotion coming from the side of the courtroom where Gannon's family is.

A photo of Gannon is now being shown, and jurors are hearing the 911 call from Letecia Stauch on the day Gannon was killed, as she’s reporting that Gannon is missing.

Al Stauch, Gannon's father, now has his head in his hands, and is weeping, as he’s being comforted by family members around him.

Many in the courtroom are sniffling and wiping away tears, as Gannon’s photo of him smiling, is still being shown on the screen.

The judge is thanking the jurors for being here and being attentive throughout.


#BREAKING: Jury deliberations are underway in the murder trial for #LeteciaStauch.
 
  • #31
I’m home and set up with RA channel on. I have a cup of tea to try and calm my nerves
 
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I was able to listen to almost all of the closing statements and rebuttal. Favorite part was Mr. Allen giving the jury permission to come back with a verdict in 10 minutes.:)
 
  • #35

The judge said once he is advised that a verdict has been reached, he will let the right people know. We’ve also learned that the District Attorney’s Office for the 4th Judicial District will update the public on social media once a verdict is reached.

The judge then addressed the attorneys. “I want to thank the attorneys for their presentation in this case. More importantly, I want to thank the lawyers for the professionalism they have conducted throughout the trial.”

The judge said he knows this has been a long trial, with difficult facts, that it was hard on the jury, on families, on Letecia Stauch, and on the lawyers.

Judge Gregory Werner said, “In a case that could have been made so much worse by bad lawyer behavior, all of you rose above that. I appreciate that, from a judge perspective, I think you have put on a clinic for how cases should be tried.”

Correction, @CoCourts will be updated the public on their Twitter, once a verdict is reached.

Whenever a verdict is reached in the murder trial for #LeteciaStauch,
@CoCourts and @4thJudicialDA will share an update on Twitter.



 
  • #36
3 hours they will eat and fill out paper work.
LOL that is what I predicted earlier. Eat their sandwiches, pick a foreperson, and despite the judge's recommendation not to do a vote the first thing, I think they will and then do paperwork.
 
  • #37
Judge was awesome imo. Thank you Judge.
Agree 100%. So Happy with this judge! Kept court orderly and prevented T from creating a circus! Thank you Judge W
 
  • #38

People v. Stauch: Closing arguments have been made and jury deliberations are underway. Once the jury has reached a verdict, the Court will read the verdict 30 minutes later. Notice of a verdict will be sent from this account.
 
  • #39
Not cheating, but I need to amend my 39 minutes prediction in light of the fact that the jury are going to eat their lunch as well as deliberating. So I reckon about 90 minutes, which I think should be around 2.40 on Colorado time.
I was just thinking the same thing! I don't think this will take any time at all. I think it will take more time for them to eat their lunch! moo
 
  • #40
I feel as if many of us are, in some sense, "alternate" jurors.

Love and many thanks to all of you, especially @Seattle1, @arielilane , the tireless @iamshadow21 , @Megnut, @Warwick7 and SO many others. Those of you who joined Websleuths mostly because of this case - you have been a faithful crew and there are so many of you.

I know I've missed some special names (@Love Never Fails - you always lift my spirits; @Smelly Squirrel - just your name helps bring a little levity; @MsMarple - always so perceptive; @Gardenista - another fine and intuitive observer; @kittythehare - you are as quick as your name!)

I know there are lots of people I left out - but all of you have helped me stay up day-to-day with this trial.

It's the first full trial I've followed since the initial missing person's thread until now. I joined for the Mackenzie Lueck case in 2019 and that never went to trial (killer got LWOP). I watched the Murdaugh trial, but no emotional investment as with this one. I wanted to watch Barry Morphew on trial (thwarted).

Edit to spell people's names properly!
 
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