CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 8

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 40s41 seconds ago
JH says he can't talk well and it's made him feel like his mind is broken #theatershooting #theatertrial
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 44s45 seconds ago
JH feared social situations #theatershooting #theatertrial
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 40s41 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH says his mind was broken. Didn’t have fear of death or consequences regarding the theater shooting

 

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 52s52 seconds ago
JH didn't fear death or consequences #theatertrial #theatershooting
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 52s52 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH thought one of the drugs helped reduce anxiety/fear. JH says a possibility if he had the drugs he may not have killed

 

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 48s49 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Says he may not have killed then if on drugs - maybe later on
When asked why he wrote “Why” over and over, JH says, “Don’t ask me that
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The Aurora Sentinel ‏@aurorasentinel · 42s43 seconds ago
#Aurora #theatershooting trial: Holmes said if he hadn’t been treated with psych meds, might not have carried out shooting #theatertrial
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

"What’s the meaning of life and death?” JH doesn’t find it unusual someone would anguish over these ?’s

 

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 59s60 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Mulling over those topics for JH was enough that he would put them in the notebook w. anticipation Dr’s would see it

JH thought Dr’s would see notebook after the shootings

Never planned to take it to them.

When notebook started, shooting plan was underway and he wanted them to see it after. Knew he would mail it.
--Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 36s36 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting psych eval vid: Why did he write "Why" all over notebook? Holmes laughs, says "Don't ask me." Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1JmNJws

 

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 33s33 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH chose mass murder vs. serial killing as it was more impersonal and was something he could do.
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The Aurora Sentinel ‏@aurorasentinel · 55s56 seconds ago
#Aurora #theatershooting trial: Holmes said having docs see the notebook after the shooting was part of his plan. #theatertrial

 

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 48s48 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Targets of shooting - random. Underlined 3x. "Cruel twists of fate are unkind to the misfortunate



& yesterday he said he wasn't "cruel"......moo

 

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

There are thousands of theaters and seats and they were in the wrong one @ wrong time - “Cruel twist of fate"

 

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH didn’t reveal anything in therapy b/c he didn’t want family to know he was sick

 

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AuroraShootingTrial ‏@Aurora_Sentinel · 1m1 minute ago
#Aurora #theatershooting trial: ‘cruel fate’-Because there are thousands of theaters & seats & they were in the wrong ones at the wrong time
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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting eval vid: Blaming psych meds, Holmes says if he wasn't on them shooting may not have occurred. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1JmNJws

 

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 40s41 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH says he’d be a burden if “sick” mentally, disliked
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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 49s49 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting psych eval vid: Holmes didn't want family 2 know he was mentally ill. Didn't want 2 b "burden." Live http://link.kdvr.com/1JmNJws
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 45s45 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Dr says JH used word “para-suicide” when cutting w. cardboard. Dr says that’s a psych term that’s avoided

JH said mom noticed the scratches but he told her it was a paper cut and didn’t tell her b/c of weakness
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 25s25 seconds ago
JH says his mom noticed cuts on him and asked but he brushed it off so it wouldn't show weakness #theatershooting #theatertrial

 

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 47s47 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH says family would have punished him if he showed weakness (spanking)
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moo--that laughter on tape is haunting :moo:

 

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH says a weak kid in his family would be punished maybe with a spanking #theatershooting #theatertrial
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Spanking was main form of discipline in the house. Once a month maybe
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH says he was spanked once a month maybe #theatershooting #theatertrial
--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Worst spanking - took him outside in front yard with his hand and JH pants down

Nobody saw the JH knew of
Was misbehavior but JH doesn’t remember why

 

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 57s57 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting psych eval vid: Holmes spanked once/month as kid, says he feared spanking 4 "suicide" attempt. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1JmNJws
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 45s45 seconds ago
#theatershooting

One time they he put snails in the path of a bus. Made slime trail. He did that w. friends
Magnifying glass to ants
Nothing with animals.
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
Worst spanking was he was taken outside spanked by hand with pants down #theatertrial #theatershooting
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

“Decided to killing others so i can live” JH - 14 years old maybe - transferring suicidal thoughts
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7NEWS Denver Channel ‏@DenverChannel · 51s52 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting trial: Holmes said he believes he would have killed people later in life http://bit.ly/1DTwGLZ
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 37s37 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Jh felt socially threatened but no physical threats. Eliminate so he can live - JH says it was one reason for killing
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 49s50 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Context JH thinking of with that is it was nobody in particular. Just people

 

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 51s51 seconds ago
JH can't explain how people were keeping him from living his life #theatershooting #theatertrial
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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 52s53 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting psych eval vid: Holmes-> I was spanked w/ pants down in front yard in worst childhood spanking. Live http://link.kdvr.com/1JmNJws

 

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

“Intense aversion of people” - JH - hatred of mankind. Don't see difference being around ppl and aversion of ppl

 

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid says there’s a difference. You can avoid being around people. JH says it’s a social society. You have to be
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 37s37 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Answer to the aversion is to kill. Unrealistic to kill everyone in world

 

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 51s51 seconds ago
The answer to JH not being able to be around people was to kill them #theatershooting #theatertrial
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 45s45 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: You’re in jail and not around many people. Did you think of that?

JH: It factored into play
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 55s56 seconds ago
JH says being caught and in jail not around people factored into play #TheaterShooting #theatertrial
--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 51s52 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: You wanted to appear dangerous. How does it feel to be dangerous?

JH - Isolated and alone.
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 55s56 seconds ago
JH says to be dangerous feels "isolated and alone." #theatershooting #theatertrial