CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #3

[iluvmua]

It does kinda sound like she decided to clear her head and go off somewhere.

Jmo

 

[Gardener1850]

I don't believe KB sent that text. It is standard for most companies to require a written request - usually with 30 days advance notice unless it's an emergency - which is then approved by a supervisor/manager. I have never heard of texting your employer to tell them you're taking the week off.
MOO

I agree the text is strange. I have a feeling someone made up a whopper that they thought sounded plausible. What are things someone may be able to take a week off for with short notice? A death in the family? A sudden illness or injury? Everything I can think of would still require documentation to prove that the excuse was a valid one. Whatever was said in the employer text must have been plausible as well because the employer didn't question the excuse nor did they react by saying "she has since been terminated" when LE finally contacted them. At least not that we know of. Someone thinks they are smart but their knowledge of Kelsey's family and Kelsey's employer policies may be their downfall. The lies told in the text messages will be found out and will point back to whomever sent them. JMO.

 

[fred&edna]

The FB info has been informative... reading between lots of lines.

I'm not sold on the "quacks like a duck - must be a duck" theory, personally. But, as always... I could be wrong.

 

[cluciano63]

OT...but I live alone, no family in state and just three good friends here...but someone would have reported me missing within a week anyway, if I had not emailed. I just can’t get over a young mother being out of touch for so long with no one freaking out. Anyway...jmo

 

[UnicornDragon]

The FB info has been informative... reading between lots of lines.

I'm not sold on the "quacks like a duck - must be a duck" theory, personally. But, as always... I could be wrong.

I'm hearing hoofbeats, but I'm not sure I'm not seeing zebras in that pack. Pretty sure there are no unicorns, but there's always the possibility.

 

[PommyMommy]

Daniela Leon on Twitter

Folks representing multiple service agencies across Teller County are out here supporting tonight’s vigil on the wake of Kelsey Berreth’s disappearance. One Divide Fire volunteer telling me, “I’m a dad, this hits home.”

 

[PommyMommy]

Sam Kraemer on Twitter

Here's the setup at Memorial Park as people begin to arrive. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth

Spencer Wilson on Twitter

Just got to Woodland Park for the Kelsey Berreth vigil. The 29 year old mom was last seen on Thanksgiving. Now the town is looking to support the search for the missing woman anyway they can. This vigil is open to the public at Memorial Park, starts at 6. @KKTV11News

 

[?mysterian?]

JMO
That text to her employer is one of the reasons I am really concerned for her because of the exact reasons you mention.

Most all employers would want a two way conversation about that since it sounds like it was unexpected and not planned in advance.

Not many employers would be ok with an employee just texting them that they are going to be gone a full week and not want at least a two way conversation about it.

In fact I know many employers if they got a text like that and no further word from the employee ever came and there was not breaking news about the person missing then the employer would probably wait a few days and text them back something like this:
"Dont bother coming back."

Plus she's now been gone longer than that week with presumably no further contact. Very concerning.

 

[cluciano63]

Jmo of course LE has interviewed her co-workers, boss, etc probably even any clients they could find. If we thought of it, then they thought of it. It is routine,

Am glad FBI is involved, though their help has not seemed to do a thing to clear up the muddle of the Closs murders and missing teen...even as far as a motive. Jmo

 

[bestill]

I have career where I deal with people professionally but I have very few close friends (purposely). Because my clients depend on me it would be difficult to disappear but if they weren't in my life I believe I could do it easily except for my family. My fiance would be the first to notice and so would my family, who all live within an hour. I don't have children. I know I could never check out a few days or a week with them not noticing, in fact a few years ago a family member died and I didn't answer the midnight call about it, my sister was on my door step the next morning. I simply had my phone on silent. The fact that Kelsey could disappear for a 10 days before she was reported missing would absolutely eat me alive if I were her relative. JMO

 

[Jennifer17]

It does kinda sound like she decided to clear her head and go off somewhere.

Jmo

For 3 weeks and no one has seen or heard from her?

 

[scdiv]

Kelsey Berreth Case: What to Know About the Missing Colorado Mom Last Seen on Thanksgiving Day

I thought it was interesting in the article that it said:

Kelsey’s employer, Doss Aviation, received texts from her cellphone saying she would not be at work for the next week, police said. Kelsey works as a pilot instructor.

texts being plural.... so I clicked on the link and it's a link to Chris Watts and Shanann texts. Awesome job again media.

It goes on to say PF received "a text" as in one.

Frazee told police he received a text from Kelsey’s phone that same day. Investigators have not revealed what that message said.

But that makes me wonder if there was an exchange of texts with her work, or just more than one message in a row - if a longer/slightly longer message was sent over a few texts as sometimes happens.

Whereas it's being reported that the fiance received "a text" which reads like it was a single text.

So who knows. It's Inside Edition. The first part links to Chris Watts! But it looks like they got the dates on the timeline correct, so there's that!

 

[soap mama]

PF named family in LE was published yesterday afternoon in the Gazzette (CoSprgs since 1872) but by evening, that paragraph was deleted from the online article.
Fiance of missing Kelsey Berreth voluntarily releases cell phone, DNA sample to law enforcement

Here it is with the original Frazee family LE information
Fiance of missing Kelsey Berreth voluntarily releases cell phone, DNA sample to law enforcement

 

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[Gunslinging Granny]

It does kinda sound like she decided to clear her head and go off somewhere.

Jmo

Leaving freshly-made cinnamon rolls on the stove and for three weeks?

 

[retiredrickyinCO]

Shame on all you bad babies that got this thread shut down!

One thing I enjoy about WS is reading other thoughts and ideas regarding the issue. On this one it is easy to come up with a quick and easy opinion of the guilty party. But even if it is somewhat remote I still like to think outside the box sometimes. I know I have read ideas of if she was gonna leave she would have taken such and such or she wouldn't have baked or left her cinnamon rolls out. But what if she wanted to make it look like she didn't leave. That is just a thought. Or maybe she just wanted to make it look like someone close to her is responsible. It is quite possible she told her mother she was having Thanksgiving with her fiance just to make it look like things were fine in the relationship.

Another thing is the fiance lawyering up. First I have no idea of who he is or anyone related to him or his financial status. But it seems he lives with his mother on a ranch and I can tell you by living not that far away that some of these ranches can be worth tons this day and age. They could be paupers or they could have so much money they don't even know how much they have. Many of these ranches have stayed in the families for generations and it is not uncommon for one of the sons to live there and maintain it after the parents get old as there is a lot of work. But if they are dealing in any chunk of land whatsoever the going prices now are extremely high. And as a rule I thing if you are more on the wealthy side you would tend to lawyer up sooner rather that later. But again, who knows, and no I am not trying to defend him one bit. My first intuition is like so many others however I always like to step back and try to see things in a different light. So what if it isn't your 1st opinion would be your 2nd opinion or 3rd. Just trying to see things through a different perspective and toss different scenarios out there. I guess the biggest reason I like to think of other options is I think that is the best chance we have of finding her okay

 

[MassGuy]

OT...but I live alone, no family in state and just three good friends here...but someone would have reported me missing within a week anyway, if I had not emailed. I just can’t get over a young mother being out of touch for so long with no one freaking out. Anyway...jmo

I agree. I can’t get past him not reporting her missing, but I also can’t get past an acquaintance, friend, neighbor, or coworker not realizing it.

So odd.

 

[Deleted member 718]

Agree, it stood out to me as well. Maybe they think she took off on her own or with someone she trusted, and that she is ok? Maybe that's why the Mom is urging people just to share her photo. Maybe those texts were legitimately from Kelsey. Still, all of this is so odd. I just can't picture her leaving a home with a mortgage, her job, her daughter, her cars like this- she seemed like a responsible young lady. Makes you wonder, did he possibly break the engagement that day or said he needed space, and she was very hurt and took off? It could be something simple as that, she could be feeling hurt and alone out there, if they broke up (just speculating, no facts to back this up). I just can't see her making cinnamon rolls, leaving them on the counter, then vanishing after showing she's a responsible and hard working Mom.

I was wondering the same things. Today I saw this from an advice column.

Is it normal to fantasize about leaving your husband and two kids?

Dear Carolyn:

I am a married woman with two elementary-age sons. I've often felt I do way more to help the three of them than they do to help me -- which is understandable with kids, frustrating with a husband -- but lately it's gotten much worse. I've been feeling as though my life would be so much better if I wasn't around them.

I feel horrible feeling like this -- what kind of a mother longs for a life without her kids? I should feel lucky; there are so many people who dream for this life.

 

[Jennifer17]

Shame on all you bad babies that got this thread shut down!

One thing I enjoy about WS is reading other thoughts and ideas regarding the issue. On this one it is easy to come up with a quick and easy opinion of the guilty party. But even if it is somewhat remote I still like to think outside the box sometimes. I know I have read ideas of if she was gonna leave she would have taken such and such or she wouldn't have baked or left her cinnamon rolls out. But what if she wanted to make it look like she didn't leave. That is just a thought. Or maybe she just wanted to make it look like someone close to her is responsible. It is quite possible she told her mother she was having Thanksgiving with her fiance just to make it look like things were fine in the relationship.

Another thing is the fiance lawyering up. First I have no idea of who he is or anyone related to him or his financial status. But it seems he lives with his mother on a ranch and I can tell you by living not that far away that some of these ranches can be worth tons this day and age. They could be paupers or they could have so much money they don't even know how much they have. Many of these ranches have stayed in the families for generations and it is not uncommon for one of the sons to live their and maintain it after the parents get old as there is a lot of work. But if they are dealing in any chunk of land whatsoever the going prices now are extremely high. And as a rule I thing if you are more on the wealthy side you would tend to lawyer up sooner rather that later. But again, who knows, and no I am not trying to defend him one bit. My first intuition is like so many others however I always like to step back and try to see things in a different light. So what if it isn't your 1st opinion would be your 2nd opinion or 3rd. Just trying to see things through a different perspective and toss different scenarios out there. I guess the biggest reason I like to think of other options is I think that is the best chance we have of finding her okay

The 'ranch' is 35 acres.

 

[Deleted member 718]

Pilot-Fixed Wing job at L3 Doss Aviation - Certified Flight Instructors

Certified Flight Instructors
L3 Doss Aviation •
Pueblo, Colorado, USA

Position Type: Permanent

Job description similar to what I think is Kelsey's position at Doss.