CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #45*ARREST*

[MemPat]

Round-ish?

I edited to include the round pan/bucket thing. PF put the black tote inside and poured the gas.

Edited because I sounded rude. Sorry.

 

[ab01]

I'm very curious to see their individual movements during the time that they followed through on conspiracy to murder PF's wife. They were not always in the same place - almost frantically trying to cover their tracks. I'd like to map this out, as I'm curious about what they were thinking.

PF and KB were not married

 

[NanZDrew]

No incinerator. The tote was placed in a trough, wood piled on top of that, and gasoline used as an accelerant. Maybe oil too, I'm not sure about that.
MOO

It did say oil because I remember thinking what an idiot he was. Oil is not flammable and it does not burn well. Gasoline...you bet. Oil...nope. What a dope.

 

[Steelslady]

According to this report, the fire took place in a pasture.

Courtroom updates: Preliminary hearing for Patrick Frazee, who is accused of killing Kelsey Berreth
After that, Slater said Lee told him they went past the main house and to a pasture and put Berreth’s body into a trough. Slater said Lee told him Frazee used gasoline to light a fire to burn the tote, which was inside the trough.

“[Lee] did stay there for several hours while the fire burned,” Slater said.

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How in God's name did she do all of this:

Arrived at Patrick's to pick up key to Kelsey's townhouse, after driving for six hours- 7:30 am?
drives 25 more minutes to Kelsey's townhouse
Cleans 3-4 hours
drives to Sonic to get something to eat
drives to Patrick's, to which from there, they take off to Nash ranch
Helps get Kelsey's body down from hay stacked in loft
drives back to Patrick's
Sets up a fire, watches as remains and tote are burned
eats pizza
Then leaves to drive back home?

 

[MemPat]

Here is what a 100 gallon metal water trough for cattle looks like. Its dimensions are 2 ft. tall, 2 ft. wide, and 48" (4ft.) long. Not very big. I think the blood in the bathroom is because she was partially dismembered to get her in the black tote and then this trough. It just would have been easier to manage her body that way. I hope I am wrong. (Gotta click on the pic to see the wrong thing).

Nan, I think this would be too small. If you look at the Frazee property you'll see larger round ones IIRC.

 

[katydid23]

Hmmm... but the dig was right next to the house. Wasn’t it reported that evidence of the burn was found in the dig?

They might have burned the tote in the field, then buried the ashes in the front area where the burnt area was found?

 

[Steelslady]

Does it matter if she realized later that she witnessed a crime?

There's nothing to suggest that she knew that Kelsey was being incinerated on her property, although incineration would draw attention. Farms have incinerators but they are not used daily. She should have noticed, but what did KK and PF tell her about their incineration activities?

and the smell of plastic and a dead body burning?

 

[ab01]

As much as I want the defense to get rocked in court, I am looking forward to a question like this:

“So Mrs. Kenney, after spending four hours cleaning up Kelsey’s teeth and blood, you stopped by Sonic for a meal? What did you order?

And after watching the defendant allegedly burn Kelsey’s remains in a fire, you took a nap and ate pizza?!”

Sounds pretty cold to me.

Hey I like cold pizza, why is everyone against cold pizza....

 

[MemPat]

How in God's name did she do all of this:

Arrived at Patrick's to pick up key to Kelsey's townhouse, after driving for six hours- 7:30 am?
drives 25 more minutes to Kelsey's townhouse
Cleans 3-4 hours
drives to Sonic to get something to eat
drives to Patrick's, to which from there, they take off to Nash ranch
Helps get Kelsey's body down from hay stacked in loft
drives back to Patrick's
Sets up a fire, watches as remains and tote are burned
eats pizza
Then leaves to drive back home?

With her conscience intact.

 

[ab01]

It did say oil because I remember thinking what an idiot he was. Oil is not flammable and it does not burn well. Gasoline...you bet. Oil...nope. What a dope.

Oil actually burns crazy hot for a long duration as long as there is already a fire. Gas tends to burn very rapidly and hot but not for very long....

Reference see@Cuyahoga river lol

“Burn on big river, burn on big river”.....

 

[MemPat]

They might have burned the tote in the field, then buried the ashes in the front area where the burnt area was found?

Actually I believe PF did the opposite, digging up the ashes/leftovers and moving them off the property according to KK. Is this right? Do I need to go to bed?!

 

[cody22]

How in God's name did she do all of this:

Arrived at Patrick's to pick up key to Kelsey's townhouse, after driving for six hours- 7:30 am?
drives 25 more minutes to Kelsey's townhouse
Cleans 3-4 hours
drives to Sonic to get something to eat
drives to Patrick's, to which from there, they take off to Nash ranch
Helps get Kelsey's body down from hay stacked in loft
drives back to Patrick's
Sets up a fire, watches as remains and tote are burned
eats pizza
Then leaves to drive back home?

Love is a many splendored thing...???....moo

 

[cody22]

Actually I believe PF did the opposite, digging up the ashes/leftovers and moving them off the property according to KK. Is this right? Do I need to go to bed?!

You are correct...moo

 

[MassGuy]

How in God's name did she do all of this:

Arrived at Patrick's to pick up key to Kelsey's townhouse, after driving for six hours- 7:30 am?
drives 25 more minutes to Kelsey's townhouse
Cleans 3-4 hours
drives to Sonic to get something to eat
drives to Patrick's, to which from there, they take off to Nash ranch
Helps get Kelsey's body down from hay stacked in loft
drives back to Patrick's
Sets up a fire, watches as remains and tote are burned
eats pizza
Then leaves to drive back home?

There was a nap involved prior to her leaving.

She would have had more than enough adrenaline to keep her awake.

Her freedom was on the line after all.

 

[Artis]

How in God's name did she do all of this:

Arrived at Patrick's to pick up key to Kelsey's townhouse, after driving for six hours- 7:30 am?
drives 25 more minutes to Kelsey's townhouse
Cleans 3-4 hours
drives to Sonic to get something to eat
drives to Patrick's, to which from there, they take off to Nash ranch
Helps get Kelsey's body down from hay stacked in loft
drives back to Patrick's
Sets up a fire, watches as remains and tote are burned
eats pizza
Then leaves to drive back home?

More like a 12 hour drive. 780 miles through mountains.

She's got a lot of energy.

 

[tmar]

This is my first post and I have lurked these forums for years. I’m finally posting because I’m reading so many why would KK drive 8 hours to clean up posts so I want to throw my opinion in.
In my opinion, she was the smarter of the two and supportive of the murder from the start. She cleverly left Easter eggs to keep herself out of jail should she feel like she was going down for it though.
For instance, she didn’t share with her sister or closest friends she was involved in a murder plot but she did purposely tell someone who worked for an attorney if I remember correctly, well before the actual Murder took place. To me this was her idea of establishing that she was a poor soul who didn’t know what to do. These people didn’t really know the people involved so less chance they would go right to the police and attorneys tend to be tight lipped due to attorney privilege but she knew she could go back and say she was seeking help and that privilege would be broken. She visited multiple times delivering coffee and lying about who she was to gain access and develop a relationship. Pf just called and said you have a mess to clean up and she wasn’t frantic. She knew to go get a hazmat suit from the hospital, shoe covers etc. She had thought this out. Maybe she even got the hazmat suit before the Murder even took place because she wasn’t at work when he called. This was probably her “job” in the crime. Cleanup. She purposely left blood in several spots that she could identify later. Now she says she wanted him to get caught, but why not leave more obvious things like the tooth if she really wanted it known he did it? She helped burn the body and destroy evidence. It wasn’t until she felt like the police were onto the phone that she turned on PF. She is literally getting away with a murder rap and I’m sure the LE know, but without a body at least they could get one conviction with her plea deal. She wasn’t manipulated and either was he! They both wanted her dead. Period.
She was just smart enough to set it up like she was another PF victim. So to answer the why. She wanted to.
They deserve each other.

Hi Downtown, and welcome with your first great post.
Hope to hear loads more from you.
These two creeps certainly deserve on another, and I hope the trial brings this out clearly.
MOO.

 

[Hatch]

It did say oil because I remember thinking what an idiot he was. Oil is not flammable and it does not burn well. Gasoline...you bet. Oil...nope. What a dope.

Maybe he was sendin up smoke signals with the oil !

 

[Hatch]

Actually I believe PF did the opposite, digging up the ashes/leftovers and moving them off the property according to KK. Is this right? Do I need to go to bed?!

You stay up.

 

[gngr~snap]

There seem to be too many details in this story.
Muddy the waters and confuse the jury just might be the plan.
Since they both can't go down, if the jury gets too much info, they both walk.
I think that is the idea, because one would think 2 adults could come up and execute it better.
They weren't even on the same page with the disposal!
Moo

 

[PommyMommy]

Welcome to Websleuths, @Downtownbrown! Glad you came out of lurking.