CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #57 *ARREST*

[Seattle1]

I’ve been looking for a good avatar to represent this, but unfortunately I’ve run into some issues with Google Images.

I think some people would describe them as “pornographic.”

Comedy Central "TripTank"... just saying.

 

[Seattle1]

Thanks @Seattle1. Appreciate the response. Like everyone here, I can't wait for this show to "get on the road."

And @susiQ - I still don't know why that is (defense wants more time) given the State is the one with the burden of proof.

 

[303gmf]

Patrick needed a tent to shield himself from the big bad cameras this morning? Grrr

 

[MassGuy]

View attachment 209807 Patrick needed a tent to shield himself from the big bad cameras this morning? Grrr

That, and angry members of the public who might attempt to take justice into their own hands. I think it’s overboard, but what do I know?

 

[Seattle1]

View attachment 209807 Patrick needed a tent to shield himself from the big bad cameras this morning? Grrr

Now that really frosts the pumpkin given that media already banned from the entrance and his sidewalk...!

 

[303gmf]

That, and angry members of the public who might attempt to take justice into their own hands. I think it’s overboard, but what do I know?

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Set up and take down daily all throughout the trail be silly!

 

[Seattle1]

Patrick Frazee murder hearing: 'Bludgeoning of cow' allegations made

Oct 18, 2019

CRIPPLE CREEK • A judge denied prosecutors’ last-minute bid to air accusations at trial that Patrick Frazee bludgeoned a cow sometime before investigators say he beat his fiancée to death with a baseball bat at her Woodland Park townhome.

The ruling by 4th Judicial District Court Judge Scott Sells highlighted a flurry of moves by prosecutors and defense attorneys in Frazee’s final court appearance before the Florissant man heads to a nationally-watched trial later this month.

[...]

On Friday, Sells said prosecutors won’t be able to detail allegations at trial that would have painted Frazee as someone with a violent history — including beating animals and being unsafe around children. Prosecutors talked with someone who claimed Frazee previously bludgeoned a cow with an object resembling a bat, 4th Judicial District Attorney Dan May said during the hearing.

[...]

Prosecutors also asked to air one person’s concerns about the safety of children around Frazee.

Sells quickly dismissed those motions — saying they would unjustly turn the jury against Frazee.

 

[GordianKnot]

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Regarding a statement made by Kelsey to her mother, saying she might leave Frazee, Judge Sells that too will be allowed. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

9:15 AM - 18 Oct 2019

RSABBM:

In my own mind, I was almost certain that KB was at that point where she was more than ready to ditch PF.

Now I AM certain: This cinches it.

She would have left that relationship, had he not killed her first.

JMO.

 

[MassGuy]

RSABBM:

In my own mind, I was almost certain that KB was at that point where she was more than ready to ditch PF.

Now I am certain. This cinches it.

She would have left that relationship, had he not killed her first.

JMO.

And that goes to motive. In that scenario, she really doesn’t have a reason to live in her condo anymore.

She was already commuting a long distance, and it was taking its toll on her.

If they ended up sharing custody, PF and his mommy might not be happy about a change in arrangement.

Perhaps she was thinking about moving back to Washington, or just moving closer to work. Although he’d still have a plausible motive whether she remained or not.

 

[lindaromas]

That, and angry members of the public who might attempt to take justice into their own hands. I think it’s overboard, but what do I know?

Will the jury be entering there also? Could be a trial run to protect the jury also.

 

[MassGuy]

Will the jury be entering there also? Could be a trial run to protect the jury also.

I’m not sure, I don’t think I’ve ever seen those measures taken for jury members before.

 

[Seattle1]

Turning the Jury Against PF

In reading the Judge's reason for disallowing allegations of PF violent history, I was reminded of Texas Criminal Code that provides for a convicted defendant to elect the one who assesses the punishment: the Judge or the same Jury panel.

Seems fitting that if PF was being tried in Texas, a finding of guilty returned, and punishment determined by Judge or defendant's Jury -- they'd be able to hear about his bludgeoning cattle , opinion of his character, and more! Seems to me all states should adopt this.

MOO


Sec. 3. Evidence of prior criminal record in all criminal cases after a finding of guilty.

(a)(1) Regardless of the plea and whether the punishment be assessed by the judge or the jury, evidence may be offered by the state and the defendant as to any matter the court deems relevant to sentencing, including but not limited to the prior criminal record of the defendant, his general reputation, his character, an opinion regarding his character, the circumstances of the offense for which he is being tried, and, notwithstanding Rules 404 and 405, Texas Rules of Evidence , any other evidence of an extraneous crime or bad act that is shown beyond a reasonable doubt by evidence to have been committed by the defendant or for which he could be held criminally responsible, regardless of whether he has previously been charged with or finally convicted of the crime or act.  A court may consider as a factor in mitigating punishment the conduct of a defendant while participating in a program under Chapter 17 as a condition of release on bail.

Texas Code of Criminal Procedure Art. 37.07 | FindLaw

 

[Seattle1]

And that goes to motive. In that scenario, she really doesn’t have a reason to live in her condo anymore.

She was already commuting a long distance, and it was taking its toll on her.

If they ended up sharing custody, PF and his mommy might not be happy about a change in arrangement.

Perhaps she was thinking about moving back to Washington, or just moving closer to work. Although he’d still have a plausible motive whether she remained or not.

Personally -- I think the only thing that kept PF under mommy's roof was baby K. Baby K moves away, add child support, and rent to his plate, and that dog won't hunt.

Nope, KB had to go.

No if's, and's, or but's about it.

 

[GordianKnot]

That tent outside the courthouse is beyond belief.

So dumb.

Talk about creating a circus atmosphere.

This judge has gone waaaaay overboard with his mollycoddling of PF.

Blocking off access to the (public!) sidewalk.

Pitching protective tents outside the courthouse.

Banning audio.

Banning video.

Banning photos.

Now it looks like he's also going to ban live tweets from inside the courtroom.

This is NOT what transparent government looks like.

JMO.

 

[GordianKnot]

Personally -- I think the only thing that kept PF under mommy's roof was baby K. Baby K moves away, add child support, and rent to his plate, and that dog won't hunt.

Nope, KB had to go.

No if's, and's, or but's about it.

BBM:

This is always, always, always, what I have firmly believed:

A huge part of PF's motive was a financial one.

There is no way he was ever going to pay KB full child support for Baby K.

PF considers what's his is his, and he not only regarded Baby K. as his sole property,
he also viewed his money as his sole property.

In PF's mind, there was no way KB ever getting both his money and custody of his kid.

Never, ever, ever.

He made sure she would not.

Never, ever, ever.

JMO.

 

[Seattle1]

Teller County Courthouse

Reporting Schedule
DATE OF APPEARANCE

JUROR NUMBERS
NEEDING TO REPORT

JUROR NUMBERS
EXCUSED

REPORT TIME IS 8:15 AM AT THE TELLER COUNTY COURTHOUSE - TOP FLOOR,
101 W. BENNETT AVENUE, CRIPPLE CREEK, CO. JURORS MUST
ENTER THE BUILDING FROM BENNETT AVENUE AND SUBMIT TO A SECURITY SCREENING
INCLUDING XRAY OF PERSONAL ITEMS AND PASSING THRU A METAL DETECTOR

Colorado Judicial Branch - Jury - Teller - Teller County Courthouse

From Teller County Courthouse Juror instructions. It appears to me that Bennett Ave entrance is the main front door to the courthouse.

If jurors are subject to security screening daily, I doubt Teller County Court can accommodate two separate security screening entrances but I may be wrong.

It will be interesting to see the final logistics.

 

[susiQ]

I have to wonder about that tent. I was struck also when PF came to court in his bullet proof vest. Is this "common" practice in CO or in any other states? It certainly isn't where I come from. Then something else struck me from the recent media segment done on this case where a particular someone was mentioned as coming from "royalty" in the sense of being born into a distinguished family that like to ride and rope horses, if you get my drift Is it a stretch to think that PF may be fearing for HIS life? A tent would certainly prevent a clear line of sight to an intended target. Maybe a bridge too far but it crossed my mind when he first donned that vest

eta: I don't think it's a reasonable fear, but maybe for him?

 

[GordianKnot]

I have to wonder about that tent. I was struck also when PF came to court in his bullet proof vest. Is this "common" practice in CO or in any other states? It certainly isn't where I come from. Then something else struck me from the recent media segment done on this case where a particular someone was mentioned as coming from "royalty" in the sense of being born into a distinguished family that like to ride and rope horses, if you get my drift Is it a stretch to think that PF may be fearing for HIS life? A tent would certainly prevent a clear line of sight to an intended target. Maybe a bridge too far but it crossed my mind when he first donned that vest

eta: I don't think it's a reasonable fear, but maybe for him?

BBM:

I don't think this is good stewardship of taxpayer dollars. At all.

Those tents and bulletproof vests aren't cheap.

At a mere fraction of the cost, Judge Sells could provide PF with a cheap wig, a trench coat, and some Groucho glasses.

That way, PF could arrive at the courthouse incognito during the trial.
Problem solved.

Just trying to help the good people of Teller County save a few dollars.
This trial is going to be costly enough already.

PF doesn't need his own private security detail.
He ain't Tom Cruise.
The court needs to stop treating him like he's some kind of celebrity.

JMO.

 

[susiQ]

BBM:

I don't think this is good stewardship of taxpayer dollars. At all.

Those tents and bulletproof vests aren't cheap.

At a mere fraction of the cost, Judge Sells could provide PF with a cheap wig, a trench coat, and some Groucho glasses. That way, PF could arrive at the courthouse incognito during the trial. Problem solved.

Just a suggestion...trying to help the good people of Teller County save a few dollars.

JMO.

The more I think about this excessive "protection" of this murderous monster, I have to wonder what's going on in the background. Hate to get all "conspiratorial" here but, if PF got taken out, "someone" would get off really, really, easy and I'm not talking about PF, although it might be easier than LWOP

 

[MsBetsy]

I have to wonder about that tent. I was struck also when PF came to court in his bullet proof vest. Is this "common" practice in CO or in any other states? It certainly isn't where I come from. Then something else struck me from the recent media segment done on this case where a particular someone was mentioned as coming from "royalty" in the sense of being born into a distinguished family that like to ride and rope horses, if you get my drift Is it a stretch to think that PF may be fearing for HIS life? A tent would certainly prevent a clear line of sight to an intended target. Maybe a bridge too far but it crossed my mind when he first donned that vest

eta: I don't think it's a reasonable fear, but maybe for him?

I think it's pretty common, especially in recent years, for them to wear bullet proof vests. He's been wearing one for every appearance, hasn't he?

They wouldn't want him getting killed, after all.

I wonder if he has a choice in the matter.

Imo